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Barbecue (alt.food.barbecue) Discuss barbecue and grilling--southern style "low and slow" smoking of ribs, shoulders and briskets, as well as direct heat grilling of everything from burgers to salmon to vegetables.

BBQ Debate: Charcoal or gas?



 
 
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Old 03-07-2004, 02:26 PM
Jeff
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Default BBQ Debate: Charcoal or gas?

As family and friends gather on decks and patios this holiday weekend
to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a debate may erupt - not about
politics or sports, but charcoal vs. gas.

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke flavor,
you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven Raichlen, author of
'The Barbecue! Bible' and other grilling cookbooks.

http://enquirer.com/editions/2004/07...c_grill03.html

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Old 03-07-2004, 02:33 PM
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Default BBQ Debate: Charcoal or gas?

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Old 03-07-2004, 03:00 PM
Mr. Wizard
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"Jeff" wrote in message
...

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke flavor,
you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven Raichlen, author of
'The Barbecue! Bible' and other grilling cookbooks.

I have a gas grill for cold weather and use charcoal otherwise.
Much better flavor.


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Old 03-07-2004, 03:16 PM
marty mcmahone
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Default BBQ Debate: Charcoal or gas?


"Jeff" wrote in message
...
As family and friends gather on decks and patios this holiday weekend
to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a debate may erupt - not about
politics or sports, but charcoal vs. gas.

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke flavor,
you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven Raichlen, author of
'The Barbecue! Bible' and other grilling cookbooks.


It isn't even close for taste. Charcoal is much better. OTOH, I grill a
whole lot more with my gas grill.

Charcoal Gas but

A lot of gas BBQ a little charcoal + a lot of oven broiled

Marty


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Old 03-07-2004, 03:17 PM
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Default BBQ Debate: Charcoal or gas?

In article ,
Jeff wrote:

As family and friends gather on decks and patios this holiday weekend
to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a debate may erupt - not about
politics or sports, but charcoal vs. gas.

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke flavor,
you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven Raichlen, author of
'The Barbecue! Bible' and other grilling cookbooks.

http://enquirer.com/editions/2004/07...c_grill03.html


So what is wrong with a good old fashioned wood fire? :-)
I have TONS of firewood from pruning etc. (plus I landed a truckload of
Pecan wood when they took some trees down at work) and I find I get a
hotter bed of coals off of a wood fire...

And it tastes mighty good!

K.

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Old 03-07-2004, 03:17 PM
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Default BBQ Debate: Charcoal or gas?

Mr. Wizard wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
...

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke flavor,
you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven Raichlen, author of
'The Barbecue! Bible' and other grilling cookbooks.

I have a gas grill for cold weather and use charcoal otherwise.
Much better flavor.


Charcoal gas for grilling.

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Old 03-07-2004, 03:18 PM
Curly Sue
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Default BBQ Debate: Charcoal or gas?

On 3 Jul 2004 06:26:05 -0700, Jeff wrote:

As family and friends gather on decks and patios this holiday weekend
to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a debate may erupt - not about
politics or sports, but charcoal vs. gas.

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke flavor,
you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven Raichlen, author of
'The Barbecue! Bible' and other grilling cookbooks.

On 3 Jul 2004 06:26:05 -0700, Jeff wrote:

As family and friends gather on decks and patios this holiday weekend
to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a debate may erupt - not about
politics or sports, but charcoal vs. gas.

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke flavor,
you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven Raichlen, author of
'The Barbecue! Bible' and other grilling cookbooks.


People I know who cook in their backyards in the summer are more
interested in things other than whether their grilling meets up to
anyone else's standards of authenticity.

I've never heard such a debate or complaints from guests. I have a
charcoal grill myself, but I do appreciate the offerings from a gas
grill. If I had a gas grill I'd surely grill more often because of
the convenience.

It's my impression that people who write BBQ cookbooks and/or who have
the setup for serious BBQ are the ones worried about authenticity.

The rest of us don't care. It's not that we couldn't appreciate it;
it's just not a priority. :

Sue(tm)
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Old 03-07-2004, 03:36 PM
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This is lame trolling. We all know gas is for suburban yuppies and has
nothing to do with real bbq.

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"Jeff" wrote in message

...
As family and friends gather on decks and patios this holiday weekend
to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a debate may erupt - not about
politics or sports, but charcoal vs. gas.

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke flavor,
you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven Raichlen, author of
'The Barbecue! Bible' and other grilling cookbooks.

http://enquirer.com/editions/2004/07...c_grill03.html

--
Cheers,
--Jeff



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Old 03-07-2004, 03:42 PM
Andrew Smith
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Default BBQ Debate: Charcoal or gas?

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
As family and friends gather on decks and patios this holiday weekend
to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a debate may erupt - not about
politics or sports, but charcoal vs. gas.

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke flavor,
you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven Raichlen, author of
'The Barbecue! Bible' and other grilling cookbooks.

http://enquirer.com/editions/2004/07...c_grill03.html


hickory charcoal gas

a.


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Old 03-07-2004, 03:43 PM
frohe
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Default BBQ Debate: Charcoal or gas?

Curly Sue wrote:
It's my impression that people who write BBQ cookbooks and/or who

have
the setup for serious BBQ are the ones worried about authenticity.
The rest of us don't care.


And here we have the reason these commercialized, ain't worth eatin,
crap for Q restaurants are springin up all over the place. Their
clientele just don't care what crap they'll eat.
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Old 03-07-2004, 03:50 PM
Steve Cutchen
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Default BBQ Debate: Charcoal or gas?

In article , Jeff
wrote:

As family and friends gather on decks and patios this holiday weekend
to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a debate may erupt - not about
politics or sports, but charcoal vs. gas.

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke flavor,
you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven Raichlen, author of
'The Barbecue! Bible' and other grilling cookbooks.

http://enquirer.com/editions/2004/07...c_grill03.html


Heat is heat.

But smoke is not smoke.

BBQ involves slow cooking over indirect heat at low temperatures and
the smkoe is important.

Typically BBQ involves a remove firebox.

So lets assume you mean grilling, not BBQing. And assume you mean
straight charcoal and no chips to give flavoring via the smoke.

Charcoal does not add to flavor. In fact, depending on how you light
it, you can get residual bad flavor from lighter fluid. This is why
starting charcoal in a chimneyt is a good idea. No fluid. But the
charcoal itself does not smoke nor contrubute to flavor.

So if charcoal does not add flavor, what does?

The vaporization of the drippings from the meat and the charring of the
meat from the heat.

Depending on the type of internals, a gas grill can do grilling the
same way as a charcoal grill. It needs to be a grill that properly
vaporizes the drippings.

The huge advantage to a charcoal grill is heat regulation. Douse coals
with water and heat stops. Controlling flareups on a gas grill can be
more difficult, again depending on the design.
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Old 03-07-2004, 04:02 PM
Steve Cutchen
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Default BBQ Debate: Charcoal or gas?

In article IvzFc.295$4Z3.19@lakeread02, StephenJ
wrote:

"suburban yuppies"


Christian Muslims?

Miami Gators?

yup == young URBAN professionals
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Old 03-07-2004, 04:03 PM
Steve Cutchen
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Default BBQ Debate: Charcoal or gas?

In article , Steve Cutchen
wrote:

In article , Jeff
wrote:

As family and friends gather on decks and patios this holiday weekend
to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a debate may erupt - not about
politics or sports, but charcoal vs. gas.

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke flavor,
you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven Raichlen, author of
'The Barbecue! Bible' and other grilling cookbooks.

http://enquirer.com/editions/2004/07...c_grill03.html


Heat is heat.

But smoke is not smoke.

BBQ involves slow cooking over indirect heat at low temperatures and
the smkoe is important.

Typically BBQ involves a remove firebox.


...remote... sigh

So lets assume you mean grilling, not BBQing. And assume you mean
straight charcoal and no chips to give flavoring via the smoke.

Charcoal does not add to flavor. In fact, depending on how you light
it, you can get residual bad flavor from lighter fluid. This is why
starting charcoal in a chimneyt is a good idea. No fluid. But the
charcoal itself does not smoke nor contrubute to flavor.

So if charcoal does not add flavor, what does?

The vaporization of the drippings from the meat and the charring of the
meat from the heat.

Depending on the type of internals, a gas grill can do grilling the
same way as a charcoal grill. It needs to be a grill that properly
vaporizes the drippings.

The huge advantage to a charcoal grill is heat regulation. Douse coals
with water and heat stops. Controlling flareups on a gas grill can be
more difficult, again depending on the design.

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Old 03-07-2004, 04:43 PM
Michael
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Default BBQ Debate: Charcoal or gas?


"Steve Cutchen" wrote in message
...
In article IvzFc.295$4Z3.19@lakeread02, StephenJ
wrote:

"suburban yuppies"


Christian Muslims?

Miami Gators?

Dancing Bapists?

Fighting Mormons?

yup == young URBAN professionals




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Old 03-07-2004, 04:52 PM
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"Andrew Smith" wrote in message
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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As family and friends gather on decks and patios this holiday weekend
to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a debate may erupt - not about
politics or sports, but charcoal vs. gas.

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke flavor,
you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven Raichlen, author of
'The Barbecue! Bible' and other grilling cookbooks.

http://enquirer.com/editions/2004/07...c_grill03.html


hickory charcoal gas

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