We have a portable gas grill. The grill doesn't seem to get hot enough =
and there are many hotspots. I was thinking of getting lava rocks/tiles =
to evenly distribute the heat but it doesn't look the grill can support. =
I was looking at the newer larger size grills and they don't look like =
the support rocks/tiles.

Most of the steaks I have cooked, unless rare take a long time too cook =
and are tough. I kind of think that maybe charcoal is better but in our =
apartment, we can't have charcoal grills.

What are some tips on grilling, say, a steak medium to medium well on =
portable grill? Am I to preheat the grill before starting to grill? At =
what setting? What temperature? 400F?

Thanks in advance
M

"Mark" > wrote:
> []
> What are some tips on grilling, say, a steak medium to medium well on =
> portable grill? Am I to preheat the grill before starting to grill? At
> = what setting? What temperature? 400F?
>
Hi Mark. Preheat, so ya get those nice grill marks and to let the steak
cook from the outside, rather than warming up with the grill. IMHO.

400F or higher sounds good ta me, but I like 'em very rare. ;~P

--
Intuitive insights from Nick, Retired in the San Fernando Valley

http://operationiraqichildren.org/

"Mark" > wrote in message
news:HHcyc.728035$oR5.256940@pd7tw3no...
>We have a portable gas grill. The grill doesn't seem to get hot enough and
there are many hotspots. I was thinking of getting lava rocks/tiles to
>evenly distribute the heat but it doesn't look the grill can support. I
was looking at the newer larger size grills and they don't look like the
support >rocks/tiles.

Forget the radiants.
Get a cast iron pan and preheat to very hot (in the oven if need be). Take
the pan outside and put it on the grill. Sear the steak on both sides in the
pan and then finish to desired doneness on the grill.

-CAL

"Mark" <newsgroup @hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<HHcyc.728035$oR5.256940@pd7tw3no>...
> What are some tips on grilling, say, a steak medium to medium well on
> portable grill? Am I to preheat the grill before starting to grill? At
> what setting? What temperature? 400F?
>
> Thanks in advance
> M

I lived for 11 years in a building that didn't allow any cooking on
the balcony. You can get good results with a cast iron frying pan.
Heat it up as hot as it will go and sear one side for 60 seconds. Flip
it and put the pan and all into a preheated 550 degree oven for 5 more
minutes. Let it rest for at least 5 more minutes. I was sceptical at
first but aside from all the smoke the results are good.

Cam

Why don't you try a cast iron grill pan so you can get some kind of grill
marks?


"Cam" > wrote in message
om...
> "Mark" <newsgroup @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<HHcyc.728035$oR5.256940@pd7tw3no>...
> > What are some tips on grilling, say, a steak medium to medium well on
> > portable grill? Am I to preheat the grill before starting to grill? At
> > what setting? What temperature? 400F?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > M
>
> I lived for 11 years in a building that didn't allow any cooking on
> the balcony. You can get good results with a cast iron frying pan.
> Heat it up as hot as it will go and sear one side for 60 seconds. Flip
> it and put the pan and all into a preheated 550 degree oven for 5 more
> minutes. Let it rest for at least 5 more minutes. I was sceptical at
> first but aside from all the smoke the results are good.
>
> Cam

Why don't you try a cast iron grill pan so you can get some kind of grill
marks? I've had not bad luck with my $20 portable but it has a metal plate
above the burner to spead the heat.

"cl" > wrote in message =
...

: Forget the radiants.
: Get a cast iron pan and preheat to very hot (in the oven if need be). =
Take
: the pan outside and put it on the grill. Sear the steak on both sides =
in the
: pan and then finish to desired doneness on the grill.

Good idea, except the only way the pan can be taken outside from the =
oven is if it is actually heated outside. The inside smoke detector is =
sensitve to heat. Dunno if the sprinkler system would go off either.

Does anyone know how hot the grill can get?

"Cam" > wrote in message =
om...

:=20
: I lived for 11 years in a building that didn't allow any cooking on
: the balcony. You can get good results with a cast iron frying pan.
: Heat it up as hot as it will go and sear one side for 60 seconds. Flip
: it and put the pan and all into a preheated 550 degree oven for 5 more
: minutes. Let it rest for at least 5 more minutes. I was sceptical at
: first but aside from all the smoke the results are good.
:=20
: Cam

Couldn't do that in my place because of the built-in smoke detector and =
sprinkler system.

A cast iron grill? I haven't seen one of those. I have seen a cast =
iron skillet.

"Dirty Harry" > wrote in message =
news:87jyc.691910$Pk3.340494@pd7tw1no...
: Why don't you try a cast iron grill pan so you can get some kind of =
grill
: marks?

"Mark" > wrote in message
news:LZLyc.702570$Pk3.102276@pd7tw1no...
A cast iron grill? I haven't seen one of those. I have seen a cast iron
skillet.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tegory=46 273

"Mark" > wrote in message
news:LZLyc.702570$Pk3.102276@pd7tw1no...
>A cast iron grill? I haven't seen one of those. I have seen a cast iron
skillet.

Forget the CI grill, you want maximun crust like that which an IR burner at
Ruth Chris. Forget the pretty grill marks, go for flavor by increasing the
contact area

-CAL

"cl" > wrote in message
...
::
: Forget the CI grill, you want maximun crust like that which an IR burner
at
: Ruth Chris. Forget the pretty grill marks, go for flavor by increasing the
: contact area

Hi, I am not sure what you are talking about. I never heard of Ruth Chris
or an IR burner.

"Dirty Harry" > wrote in message
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:
: "Mark" > wrote in message
: news:LZLyc.702570$Pk3.102276@pd7tw1no...
: A cast iron grill? I haven't seen one of those. I have seen a cast iron
: skillet.
:
:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tegory=46 273

Right, I now know the one you are talking about....it's telflon coated: not
good.

"Mark" > wrote in message
news:f2Pyc.894$eA.633@clgrps13...
> "Dirty Harry" > wrote in message
> news:zDMyc.742830$Ig.455670@pd7tw2no...
> :
> : "Mark" > wrote in message
> : news:LZLyc.702570$Pk3.102276@pd7tw1no...
> : A cast iron grill? I haven't seen one of those. I have seen a cast
iron
> : skillet.
> :
> :
>
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tegory=46 273
>
> Right, I now know the one you are talking about....it's telflon coated:
not
> good.
>
Just showing what they look like, obviously you want to get the easy to find
cast iron version if one was so inclined to use such a beast. I use a real
grill myself...

"Dirty Harry" > wrote in message
news:thPyc.740185$oR5.485923@pd7tw3no...
:
: Just showing what they look like, obviously you want to get the easy to
find
: cast iron version if one was so inclined to use such a beast. I use a
real
: grill myself...

I envy people like you ;-)

On 12-Jun-2004, "Mark" > wrote:

> "Dirty Harry" > wrote in message
> news:zDMyc.742830$Ig.455670@pd7tw2no...
> :
> : "Mark" > wrote in message
> : news:LZLyc.702570$Pk3.102276@pd7tw1no...
> : A cast iron grill? I haven't seen one of those. I have seen a cast
> iron
> : skillet.
> :
> :
> http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tegory=46 273
>
> Right, I now know the one you are talking about....it's telflon coated:
> not
> good.

Check ABF for pic's tomorrow. I'll make pic's of two grills, one is the CI
ribbed
type and the other is a flat pancake/egg grill. Both CI and heavier then a
MOFO.
Both are shaped to cover two burners on a typical kitchen stove.

--
M&M ("When You're Over The Hill You Pick Up Speed")

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 23:02:07 GMT, "Mark" >
wrote:

>
>"cl" > wrote in message ...
>
>: Forget the radiants.
>: Get a cast iron pan and preheat to very hot (in the oven if need be). Take
>: the pan outside and put it on the grill. Sear the steak on both sides in the
>: pan and then finish to desired doneness on the grill.
>
>Good idea, except the only way the pan can be taken outside from the oven is if it is actually heated outside. The inside smoke detector is sensitve to heat. Dunno if the sprinkler system would go off either.
>
>Does anyone know how hot the grill can get?

Please set the line length in your newsreader to 70. Each paragraph of
your post is one LONNNNNG line.

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
--Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology

"Kevin S. Wilson" > wrote in message
...
:
: >Good idea, except the only way the pan can be taken outside from the oven
is if it is actually heated outside. The inside smoke detector is sensitve
to heat. Dunno if the sprinkler system would go off either.
: >
: >Does anyone know how hot the grill can get?
:
: Please set the line length in your newsreader to 70. Each paragraph of
: your post is one LONNNNNG line.

Thanks, I cut and pasted my replies. I changed the characters to 70, but I
didn't notice much of a difference between 70 and the default 76.

"M&M" > wrote in message
...
::
: Check ABF for pic's tomorrow. I'll make pic's of two grills, one is the CI
: ribbed
: type and the other is a flat pancake/egg grill. Both CI and heavier then a
: MOFO.
: Both are shaped to cover two burners on a typical kitchen stove.

I saw a cast iron ribbed grill at Wal-Mart for $29 Canadian. That's about $5
US ;-)
I believe that would be way to heavy for my portable bbq and inside the
apartment the heat alone from it would set off the smoke detector (even
opening up the oven door for more than 15 seconds sets it off).

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 23:13:56 GMT, "Mark" >
wrote:

>
>"Kevin S. Wilson" > wrote in message
.. .
>:
>: >Good idea, except the only way the pan can be taken outside from the oven
>is if it is actually heated outside. The inside smoke detector is sensitve
>to heat. Dunno if the sprinkler system would go off either.
>: >
>: >Does anyone know how hot the grill can get?
>:
>: Please set the line length in your newsreader to 70. Each paragraph of
>: your post is one LONNNNNG line.
>
>Thanks, I cut and pasted my replies. I changed the characters to 70, but I
>didn't notice much of a difference between 70 and the default 76.
>
Much better this way.

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
--Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology