For those interested, I have posted the article about my bbq joint startup
plans that came out in this month's Wenatchee Business Journal . I will also
have a couple of pictures posted in ABF.
Dave

Dave Bugg wrote:

For those interested, I have posted the article about my bbq joint startup
plans that came out in this month's Wenatchee Business Journal . I will also
have a couple of pictures posted in ABF.
Dave

Interesting stuff. Not knowing the first thing about the business, I
never would have thought you'd need such large ammounts of money. I
still can't figure out how you could ever make enough from selling
barbecue to pay off that much of an investment - at least not in a
lifetime. I guess I'm going to have to rethink my plan to finance my
first yacht off just my WSM and kettle grill! g Thanks for posting
the info, and best of luck!

Douglas Barber wrote:

Interesting stuff. Not knowing the first thing about the business, I
never would have thought you'd need such large ammounts of money. I
still can't figure out how you could ever make enough from selling
barbecue to pay off that much of an investment - at least not in a
lifetime. I guess I'm going to have to rethink my plan to finance my
first yacht off just my WSM and kettle grill! g Thanks for posting
the info, and best of luck!


I appreciate the wishes :-)

Most of the funding is allocated to land purchase and building. The price
for business real-estate here is escalating. The Wenatchee area is heavy
tourism because of the mountains and recreation, but because of the
geography of the region there is limited ability for commercial property to
be developed. We were able to snatch up a great chunk of newly re-zoned
commercial property at a bargain price --relatively speaking. We estimate
that once our building is completed, the increase in our property's value
will immediately put us in an equity position. Of course, the downside is
our property tax rate will also increase. But this will put us in a very
nice position.

The monthly payment for the TOTAL loan amount (land, construction, inventory
and equipment) is only $1,643.00 per month. The term of the loan is for 18
years at 5.5%. If I were even ABLE to find a good site for a lease --- and
stand-alone buildings that would work with my model are scarce here -- it
would run an average of $3800.00 to $4200.00 per month. Never mind the
money that would be needed to service a start-up cost loan. Talk about
dipping into cash flow!!

Based on the marketing studies, we expect to hit our break-even point within
the first quarter following our opening.
Dave

What did you do before you decided to start your restaurant?

How many smokers did you own over the years?

How much cooking did you do? Did you cook every single day before you got
your restaurant? I mean, when did it occur to you that, "Hey, I really know
what I'm doing as far as cooking bbq goes; I think I'll start a
restaurant."?

Hope that's not too many questions and thanks for the article. If I knew
how to cook bbq, I'd like to have one too, but I don't so, inspire me!
Heck, I don't even have a smoker - BUT I do watch a lot of Food Network

Thank you.

"Dave Bugg" deebuggatcharterdotnet wrote in message
...
Douglas Barber wrote:

Interesting stuff. Not knowing the first thing about the business, I
never would have thought you'd need such large ammounts of money. I
still can't figure out how you could ever make enough from selling
barbecue to pay off that much of an investment - at least not in a
lifetime. I guess I'm going to have to rethink my plan to finance my
first yacht off just my WSM and kettle grill! g Thanks for posting
the info, and best of luck!


I appreciate the wishes :-)

Most of the funding is allocated to land purchase and building. The price
for business real-estate here is escalating. The Wenatchee area is heavy
tourism because of the mountains and recreation, but because of the
geography of the region there is limited ability for commercial property
to
be developed. We were able to snatch up a great chunk of newly re-zoned
commercial property at a bargain price --relatively speaking. We estimate
that once our building is completed, the increase in our property's value
will immediately put us in an equity position. Of course, the downside is
our property tax rate will also increase. But this will put us in a very
nice position.

The monthly payment for the TOTAL loan amount (land, construction,
inventory
and equipment) is only $1,643.00 per month. The term of the loan is for 18
years at 5.5%. If I were even ABLE to find a good site for a lease --- and
stand-alone buildings that would work with my model are scarce here -- it
would run an average of $3800.00 to $4200.00 per month. Never mind the
money that would be needed to service a start-up cost loan. Talk about
dipping into cash flow!!

Based on the marketing studies, we expect to hit our break-even point
within
the first quarter following our opening.
Dave




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jm wrote:
What did you do before you decided to start your restaurant?

I worked as health education director -- plus other stuff -- for the
Chelan-Douglas Health District. I also did a lot of volunteer 'Q for large
groups -- like church, PTA fundraisers, company picnics; and some catering
for-pay for weddings, parties, etc.

How many smokers did you own over the years?

Seven. I now use a Kamado #7

How much cooking did you do? Did you cook every single day before
you got your restaurant?

The store isn't opened yet. Suffice it to say, I've done a LOT of cooking
and 'Qing.

I mean, when did it occur to you that,
"Hey, I really know what I'm doing as far as cooking bbq goes; I
think I'll start a restaurant."?

The answer came in two stages. I felt I knew what I was doing cooking bbq
when I started low-level catering about seven years ago. The article talked
about when I decided to start a bbq joint.

Hope that's not too many questions and thanks for the article. If I
knew how to cook bbq, I'd like to have one too, but I don't so,
inspire me! Heck, I don't even have a smoker - BUT I do watch a lot
of Food Network

You should plan on coming to the grand opening in September. :-)

On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 10:39:21 -0700, "Dave Bugg"
deebuggatcharterdotnet wrote:

jm wrote:
What did you do before you decided to start your restaurant?

I worked as health education director -- plus other stuff -- for the
Chelan-Douglas Health District. I also did a lot of volunteer 'Q for large
groups -- like church, PTA fundraisers, company picnics; and some catering
for-pay for weddings, parties, etc.

How many smokers did you own over the years?

Seven. I now use a Kamado #7

How much cooking did you do? Did you cook every single day before
you got your restaurant?

The store isn't opened yet. Suffice it to say, I've done a LOT of cooking
and 'Qing.

I mean, when did it occur to you that,
"Hey, I really know what I'm doing as far as cooking bbq goes; I
think I'll start a restaurant."?

The answer came in two stages. I felt I knew what I was doing cooking bbq
when I started low-level catering about seven years ago. The article talked
about when I decided to start a bbq joint.

Hope that's not too many questions and thanks for the article. If I
knew how to cook bbq, I'd like to have one too, but I don't so,
inspire me! Heck, I don't even have a smoker - BUT I do watch a lot
of Food Network

You should plan on coming to the grand opening in September. :-)


September works a lot better than June/July, Dave. I've booked myself
into Dave/Kim's Q-school with Dr. BBQ in mid-July, and having just
returned from France, I will be 'grounded' for a while. SWMBO
authorized Q-School which I don't know how to take. [I'm so bad I need
all the help I can get, or, I'm good enough now to benefit from their
talents and experience.] Dr. BBQ has notified that this session is
not meant for 'beginners' so we'll see, eh?

Harry

Harry Demidavicius wrote:

...Dr. BBQ has notified that this session is
not meant for 'beginners' so we'll see, eh?

Post-graduate school? :-)

"Harry Demidavicius" wrote in message
...
. I've booked myself
into Dave/Kim's Q-school with Dr. BBQ in mid-July, and having just
returned from France, Dr. BBQ has notified that this session is
not meant for 'beginners' so we'll see, eh?
\
its a good class for sure---you will learn lots from those taking the class
with you while you are sitting around at night bs'ing as well as from the
"Dr"

Buzz

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 11:51:28 -0500, "Buzz1"
wrote:


"Harry Demidavicius" wrote in message
.. .
. I've booked myself
into Dave/Kim's Q-school with Dr. BBQ in mid-July, and having just
returned from France, Dr. BBQ has notified that this session is
not meant for 'beginners' so we'll see, eh?
\
its a good class for sure---you will learn lots from those taking the class
with you while you are sitting around at night bs'ing as well as from the
"Dr"

Buzz


Thks, Buzz. I'm quite looking forward to it.

Harry

You're pushing your hoped for business adventure and using this NG for
your own commercial gain.
Kent

Dave Bugg wrote:

For those interested, I have posted the article about my bbq joint startup
plans that came out in this month's Wenatchee Business Journal . I will also
have a couple of pictures posted in ABF.
Dave

"Kent H." wrote:
You're pushing your hoped for business adventure and using this NG for
your own commercial gain.
Kent

Ya know Kent, if ya read all the threads about Dave's BBQ, you'll find that
he's told us a.f.b'ers that he'll be comp'ing us. Your stupidity is only
exceed by your small mindedness. Are you CAL's alter ego?

--
Intuitive insights from Nick, Retired in the San Fernando Valley

http://operationiraqichildren.org/

Kent H. wrote:

You're pushing your hoped for business adventure and using this NG for
your own commercial gain.

To the contrary. He's making quite a contribution. I expect it
will encourage others in various ways, not the least of which would
be as a guide for those who would do the same. What you imply
is greed is actually generosity.

"Dave's Journal" gets my vote for Best of the Net 2004.

--
Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot) com

"Kent H." wrote in message
...
You're pushing your hoped for business adventure and using this NG for
your own commercial gain.
Kent

Good point. Probably everyhousehold in the Wenatachee area reds this NG to
find good places for BBQ. Dave is going to get most all their business
because of his posting here.

The fact that most of us are interested in what it takes to make it in the
bbq business has nothing to do with it. it is just sly marketing. Dave
published his menu to lure us to his place and I'm betting he will have a
30% out of towners surcharge on his prices when we get there. Kent, I think
yo ane I are the only ones that see through this charade. Dave is going to
take advantage of us and make big bucks and retire in five years. And we
will still be reading this newsgroup in hopes of getting a better life.

I feel so used now.
Ed

http://pages.cthome.net/edhome

In article , Reg
wrote:

Kent H. wrote:

You're pushing your hoped for business adventure and using this NG for
your own commercial gain.

To the contrary. He's making quite a contribution. I expect it
will encourage others in various ways, not the least of which would
be as a guide for those who would do the same. What you imply
is greed is actually generosity.

"Dave's Journal" gets my vote for Best of the Net 2004.

and "Kunt and cl(it) Get in a Pile" will be voted worst....

monroe(def not a connoisieur of such ughliness)

wrote:

"Kent H." wrote:
You're pushing your hoped for business adventure and using this NG for
your own commercial gain.
Kent

Ya know Kent, if ya read all the threads about Dave's BBQ, you'll find that
he's told us a.f.b'ers that he'll be comp'ing us. Your stupidity is only
exceed by your small mindedness. Are you CAL's alter ego?

Now tell, how exactly is calling Dave on his spam stupid and small
minded? Anytime someone else calls a poster on spamming the group, they
respond by posint their whois or message headers. Why the hypocrisy?

You need to throw that skirt back on and take a peek at yoruself in a
dressing mirror (please no kilt lifting). Ah, Cramer you will be back in
the spirit again as that has got to be a sight to behold! It is sure to
pull up those spirits. They really need to do a budlight spot on your
type.



mr. pakhama wearer
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bud light presents real american heroes
(real american heroes)
today we salute you, mr. pakhama wearer
(mr. pakhama wearer)
more than any mile high billboard or superbowl ad ever could, your pale
white hairy legs say "hey guys, look at me"
(what could you be thinking)
you think it sexy, but it couldn't look any worse than if you were
wearing body paint
(couldn't turn on a post op tranny)
made of heavy upholstery fabric, it can cover any window in the house:
but not your sparkling wooly sticks
(whoo...please don't bend over)
so crack open an ice cold bud light mr. manly in a skirt, then crack
open another for that thing covering up your ass
(i don't think it is long enough)

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-CAL