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Natural Gas vs LP gas



 
 
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Old 04-05-2004, 03:25 AM
Mike Rinken
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Default Natural Gas vs LP gas

I've got a natural gas hookup on my deck outside. I'm considering the Weber
Genesis Silver A Premium Natural Gas grill. The questions I have a

1. Is natural gas better than LP? Does it burn hotter, cooler?
2. I'll need to run a pipe about 15 feet to where I'll need to have the
grill "plug in", any considerations when running this line if I buy? (It'll
be running under the deck)

Thanks in advance.

--

Mike


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Old 04-05-2004, 06:54 AM
Kent H.
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Default Natural Gas vs LP gas

Natural gas, or methane, has less BTU/volume than propane or C3H8, and
requires greater flow through a larger gas line and jet than does
propane. I think you can get to the same BTU with both though it's a bit
harder with natural gas than with propane gas. I would assume Weber has
done the proper homework. Call them and ask them. They have great
customer service. I have a propane Genesis B, and would probably go for
natural gas in a second just to avoid that disgusting propane tank.
I don't think the distance of the line is a worry as long as you use the
right diameter conduit. It would be nice to be able to move the grill
about a bit as conditions require.
Go for it, and good luck with your endpoint.
Kent

Mike Rinken wrote:

I've got a natural gas hookup on my deck outside. I'm considering the Weber
Genesis Silver A Premium Natural Gas grill. The questions I have a

1. Is natural gas better than LP? Does it burn hotter, cooler?
2. I'll need to run a pipe about 15 feet to where I'll need to have the
grill "plug in", any considerations when running this line if I buy? (It'll
be running under the deck)

Thanks in advance.

--

Mike

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Old 04-05-2004, 05:05 PM
Bill Beeman
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Default Natural Gas vs LP gas

I did this with my now ageing Weber 3000...works like a charm. You will
need to get replacement orifices from Weber.

I would be sure to put a shutoff valve at the end of the pipe, and be sure
to get the proper hose and couplings. I use a hose long enough to permit
some movement of the whole grill, as required. Good practice is to shut off
the gas at the valve _before_ the hose when not using the grill.

With the correct orifices I seem to get a bit higher heat than with the
propane setup.

Bill

"Kent H." wrote in message
...
Natural gas, or methane, has less BTU/volume than propane or C3H8, and
requires greater flow through a larger gas line and jet than does
propane. I think you can get to the same BTU with both though it's a bit
harder with natural gas than with propane gas. I would assume Weber has
done the proper homework. Call them and ask them. They have great
customer service. I have a propane Genesis B, and would probably go for
natural gas in a second just to avoid that disgusting propane tank.
I don't think the distance of the line is a worry as long as you use the
right diameter conduit. It would be nice to be able to move the grill
about a bit as conditions require.
Go for it, and good luck with your endpoint.
Kent

Mike Rinken wrote:

I've got a natural gas hookup on my deck outside. I'm considering the

Weber
Genesis Silver A Premium Natural Gas grill. The questions I have a

1. Is natural gas better than LP? Does it burn hotter, cooler?
2. I'll need to run a pipe about 15 feet to where I'll need to have the
grill "plug in", any considerations when running this line if I buy?

(It'll
be running under the deck)

Thanks in advance.

--

Mike



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Old 04-05-2004, 09:08 PM
Kent H.
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Default Natural Gas vs LP gas

Thanks for the note Bill. I have been thinking about doing this for some
time.
Kent

Bill Beeman wrote:

I did this with my now ageing Weber 3000...works like a charm. You will
need to get replacement orifices from Weber.

I would be sure to put a shutoff valve at the end of the pipe, and be sure
to get the proper hose and couplings. I use a hose long enough to permit
some movement of the whole grill, as required. Good practice is to shut off
the gas at the valve _before_ the hose when not using the grill.

With the correct orifices I seem to get a bit higher heat than with the
propane setup.

Bill

"Kent H." wrote in message
...
Natural gas, or methane, has less BTU/volume than propane or C3H8, and
requires greater flow through a larger gas line and jet than does
propane. I think you can get to the same BTU with both though it's a bit
harder with natural gas than with propane gas. I would assume Weber has
done the proper homework. Call them and ask them. They have great
customer service. I have a propane Genesis B, and would probably go for
natural gas in a second just to avoid that disgusting propane tank.
I don't think the distance of the line is a worry as long as you use the
right diameter conduit. It would be nice to be able to move the grill
about a bit as conditions require.
Go for it, and good luck with your endpoint.
Kent

Mike Rinken wrote:

I've got a natural gas hookup on my deck outside. I'm considering the

Weber
Genesis Silver A Premium Natural Gas grill. The questions I have a

1. Is natural gas better than LP? Does it burn hotter, cooler?
2. I'll need to run a pipe about 15 feet to where I'll need to have the
grill "plug in", any considerations when running this line if I buy?

(It'll
be running under the deck)

Thanks in advance.

--

Mike

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Old 05-05-2004, 12:37 AM
Edwin Pawlowski
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Default Natural Gas vs LP gas


"Mike Rinken" wrote in message
news:baDlc.18316$TD4.2499083@attbi_s01...
I've got a natural gas hookup on my deck outside. I'm considering the

Weber
Genesis Silver A Premium Natural Gas grill. The questions I have a

1. Is natural gas better than LP? Does it burn hotter, cooler?
2. I'll need to run a pipe about 15 feet to where I'll need to have the
grill "plug in", any considerations when running this line if I buy?

(It'll
be running under the deck)


Temperature wise they will be about the same. Convenience is a huge factor
and if I had natural gas you can be sure I'd be hooked to it.

I don't know about your local, but I'd have to take the grill off the wheels
and bolt it to the deck. You are not allowed to have a "portable" device
connected to a gas line. As for running under the deck, can you walk under
it or is it close to the ground? You don't want people hanging the clothes
line from the gas pipe.
Ed

http://pages.cthome.net/edhome


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Old 06-05-2004, 01:52 PM
larry
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Default Natural Gas vs LP gas

It takes longer to heat your grill with natural gas. (had both) It does not burn
quite as hot. But it is still way better than hauling butane bottles
around. There is a 12' flex hose available that you can run under your
deck that will allow a quick connect at the grill. I have a natural gas
LYNX grill with the 12' flex hose running off
a stub out from a hot water heater on 1/2 inch line...and it works great!

larE

On Tue, 04 May 2004 02:25:11 +0000, Mike Rinken wrote:

I've got a natural gas hookup on my deck outside. I'm considering the Weber
Genesis Silver A Premium Natural Gas grill. The questions I have a

1. Is natural gas better than LP? Does it burn hotter, cooler?
2. I'll need to run a pipe about 15 feet to where I'll need to have the
grill "plug in", any considerations when running this line if I buy? (It'll
be running under the deck)

Thanks in advance.




 




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