S.F. East Bay folks:

Anyone interested in going in together on a Lazzari hardwood (oak) lump
order?

Price is $10.95 for 40# bag, minimum 1 pallet of 25 bags, additional $25
delivery charge no matter how many pallets. Assuming 1 pallet, that's $12
per bag total.

Lazzari requires cash on delivery, no checks, so I need your cash upfront,
or be here for delivery.

They deliver with a lift gate and pallet jack.

I would be good for 5 to 8 bags.

Anyone?

James Emanuel

email is my first and last names, no spaces, no caps, at earthlink.net

On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 21:10:35 GMT, "James Emanuel"
wrote:

Lazzari requires cash on delivery, no checks, so I need your cash upfront,
or be here for delivery.

No, no, no. You're doing this all wrong.

**********************
STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS PROPOSAL TRANSFER OF 1000 POUNDS
(ONE THOUSAND POUNDS) LAZARRI LUMP CHARCOAL.

Dear Sir or Madam,
Request for Urgent Business Relationship
I am a member, Board of Directors to the Nigeria National Petroleum
Corporation (NNPC) and also member of the Adhoc Committee set up by
the Federal Government of Nigeria to review contracts awarded by the
past Administration between 1999- 2002. The members of this committee
are interested in the importation of lump charcoal into the country
with the funds presently floating in the Nigeria National Petroleum
Corporation (NNPC) foreign payments account.
**************************

Much more effective that way, don't you think?

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
--Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology

Kevin S. Wilson wrote in alt.food.barbecue

On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 21:10:35 GMT, "James Emanuel"
wrote:

Lazzari requires cash on delivery, no checks, so I need your cash
upfront, or be here for delivery.

No, no, no. You're doing this all wrong.

**********************
STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS PROPOSAL TRANSFER OF 1000 POUNDS
(ONE THOUSAND POUNDS) LAZARRI LUMP CHARCOAL.

Dear Sir or Madam,
Request for Urgent Business Relationship
I am a member, Board of Directors to the Nigeria National Petroleum
Corporation (NNPC) and also member of the Adhoc Committee set up by
the Federal Government of Nigeria to review contracts awarded by the
past Administration between 1999- 2002. The members of this committee
are interested in the importation of lump charcoal into the country
with the funds presently floating in the Nigeria National Petroleum
Corporation (NNPC) foreign payments account.
**************************

Much more effective that way, don't you think?


ROFLMAO

--
BigDog
To E-mail me, you know what to do.

"Kevin S. Wilson" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 21:10:35 GMT, "James Emanuel"
wrote:

Lazzari requires cash on delivery, no checks, so I need your cash
upfront,
or be here for delivery.

No, no, no. You're doing this all wrong.

**********************
STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS PROPOSAL TRANSFER OF 1000 POUNDS
(ONE THOUSAND POUNDS) LAZARRI LUMP CHARCOAL.

Dear Sir or Madam,
Request for Urgent Business Relationship
I am a member, Board of Directors to the Nigeria National Petroleum
Corporation (NNPC) and also member of the Adhoc Committee set up by
the Federal Government of Nigeria to review contracts awarded by the
past Administration between 1999- 2002. The members of this committee
are interested in the importation of lump charcoal into the country
with the funds presently floating in the Nigeria National Petroleum
Corporation (NNPC) foreign payments account.
**************************

Much more effective that way, don't you think?

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
--Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology

Hey Kevin,

How about you. Are you going to give the Kookoff a shot this year?

James Emanuel

On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 22:09:36 GMT, "James Emanuel"
wrote:

How about you. Are you going to give the Kookoff a shot this year?

I doubt it. I am so fed up with Kamado's customer disservice that I'm
seriously considering whether I can continue to recommend that people
buy their products.

When I won the #5 in the Thanskgiving Recipe/Photo Contest, I ordered
some accessories and some charcoal. A year and three scheduled
shipping dates went by. I had to CALL them to ask, "Gee, do you
suppose I could have the #5 I won?"

No charcoal to ship with it, since they sold it all to other people.
They charged me for the SS bands, though they were supposed to be
included in the prize. And the icing on the cake is that they charged
my credit card for 50% when the order was placed, then charged it for
100% when the order shipped. Altogether, they overcharged me by
$156.50.

A snail-mail letter was ignored, for over a month now. An e-mail with
the letter attached was read by Richard, but so far has received no
response.

You know, sloppy customer service is one thing, but failing to credit
my account under these circumstances is flat-out illegal.

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
--Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology

"Kevin S. Wilson" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 22:09:36 GMT, "James Emanuel"
wrote:

How about you. Are you going to give the Kookoff a shot this year?

I doubt it. I am so fed up with Kamado's customer disservice that I'm
seriously considering whether I can continue to recommend that people
buy their products.

snip
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
--Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology

I couldn't agree more. Some smart entrepreneur ought to try to buy the
company, and add excellent customer service. Maybe we will end up with rare
collectibles when Kamados are no longer produced.

James Emanuel
Structural Engineer in a home office somewhere in California

"James Emanuel" wrote in message
link.net...


I couldn't agree more. Some smart entrepreneur ought to try to buy the
company, and add excellent customer service. Maybe we will end up with
rare
collectibles when Kamados are no longer produced.


To paraphrase an old electric razor commercial:

"I hated the customer service so much, I bought the company."

Never mind.

--
YOP...

"Kevin S. Wilson" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 21:10:35 GMT, "James Emanuel"
wrote:

Lazzari requires cash on delivery, no checks, so I need your cash
upfront,
or be here for delivery.

No, no, no. You're doing this all wrong.

**********************
STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS PROPOSAL TRANSFER OF 1000 POUNDS
(ONE THOUSAND POUNDS) LAZARRI LUMP CHARCOAL.

Dear Sir or Madam,
Request for Urgent Business Relationship
I am a member, Board of Directors to the Nigeria National Petroleum
Corporation (NNPC) and also member of the Adhoc Committee set up by
the Federal Government of Nigeria to review contracts awarded by the
past Administration between 1999- 2002. The members of this committee
are interested in the importation of lump charcoal into the country
with the funds presently floating in the Nigeria National Petroleum
Corporation (NNPC) foreign payments account.
**************************

Nice one, Kevin. You almost outdid yourself!

--
YOP...

Steve Wertz wrote:
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 23:18:19 GMT, "James Emanuel"
wrote:

I couldn't agree more. Some smart entrepreneur ought to try to buy the
company, and add excellent customer service. Maybe we will end up with rare
collectibles when Kamados are no longer produced.

Redusing the backlog of orders would be a big selling point.
Imagine being able to get a Kamado in a few weeks, rather than
waiting until next season?

I ain't gonna wait no stinking 8+mos (well over a year in Kevin's
case - right?). I'm gonna buy something *today*, at Home Depot,
Academy, or Lowes, and have BBQ tomorrow.

-sw

Once again, Kevin is *NOT* telling the entire story.

There was a contest. Specific prizes were offered. Kevin didn't want the prize
that he won, wanted to have a textured made instead of the Mosac Tiled one that
was already built for the contest prize.
Then there is the problem that *some* people have getting in contact with
Kamado. (I haven't had this problem, since I am persistant, and don't rely on
E-mail or voice mail, just as I don't in everyday life. If I don't get an
answer today or tomorrow, I try again)

Somewhere I get the impression that this story is growing each time it is
told.(IMO)

BOB

On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 17:33:17 -0600, Steve Wertz
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 23:18:19 GMT, "James Emanuel"
wrote:

I couldn't agree more. Some smart entrepreneur ought to try to buy the
company, and add excellent customer service. Maybe we will end up with rare
collectibles when Kamados are no longer produced.

Redusing the backlog of orders would be a big selling point.
Imagine being able to get a Kamado in a few weeks, rather than
waiting until next season?

I wonder how long it actually takes to make a Kamado, start to finish.
Is the long lag time a result of it taking weeks or months to make
one, or a result of too many orders and not enough worker bees turning
out Kamados? They've always claimed that demand outstrips their
ability to supply, but this is a company that has never done any
advertising.

I ain't gonna wait no stinking 8+mos (well over a year in Kevin's
case - right?). I'm gonna buy something *today*, at Home Depot,
Academy, or Lowes, and have BBQ tomorrow.

Yes, it was over a year, and I was placed in the (for me)
uncomfortable position of having to call them up and say, "Um, excuse
me, but could I have the Kamado you said you were going to give me?"

The icing on that piece of cake? I called on a Monday, and the gal
said, "Oh, you're the contest winner. We can ship that unit this
Wednesday."

Of course, it didn't ship that Wednesday, but instead shipped a month
later. But what were they doing, sitting on my prize K until I bugged
them about it?

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"Who put these fingerprints on my imagination?"

Kevin S. Wilson wrote:
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 17:33:17 -0600, Steve Wertz
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 23:18:19 GMT, "James Emanuel"
wrote:

I couldn't agree more. Some smart entrepreneur ought to try to buy the
company, and add excellent customer service. Maybe we will end up with rare
collectibles when Kamados are no longer produced.

Redusing the backlog of orders would be a big selling point.
Imagine being able to get a Kamado in a few weeks, rather than
waiting until next season?

I wonder how long it actually takes to make a Kamado, start to finish.
Is the long lag time a result of it taking weeks or months to make
one, or a result of too many orders and not enough worker bees turning
out Kamados? They've always claimed that demand outstrips their
ability to supply, but this is a company that has never done any
advertising.

I ain't gonna wait no stinking 8+mos (well over a year in Kevin's
case - right?). I'm gonna buy something *today*, at Home Depot,
Academy, or Lowes, and have BBQ tomorrow.

Yes, it was over a year, and I was placed in the (for me)
uncomfortable position of having to call them up and say, "Um, excuse
me, but could I have the Kamado you said you were going to give me?"

The icing on that piece of cake? I called on a Monday, and the gal
said, "Oh, you're the contest winner. We can ship that unit this
Wednesday."

Of course, it didn't ship that Wednesday, but instead shipped a month
later. But what were they doing, sitting on my prize K until I bugged
them about it?

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"Who put these fingerprints on my imagination?"

I quote from the original post announcing the contest:
"Announcing our 2nd annual Thanksgiving Turkey Contest. We will have three
prizes. First prize will be a #5 Mosaic, second prize will be a #3 Mosaic and
the third prize will be a #1 Mosaic. All will have stainless steel bands and
grills. The winners can pick up their Kamados at our Sacramento Factory or
shipped collect to any destination of their choice. Delivery will be after the
first of the year. "

Please note that it states "First prize will be a #5 Mosaic," That was the
prize offered, and was ready for shipping at the end of the contest. I remember
you discussing wanting to change to the textured model, since it would match you
existing Kamados. I also remember that we (you and I) *still* discussing this
several months *AFTER* the announcement of the winners.

IMO, Kevin, you are just a grouch old bitch and like to stir up controversy, no
matter how many facts you need to leave out, and no matter how much you need to
twist the truth.

HAND, ass hole.

BOB

On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 18:49:37 -0500, " BOB" wrote:


Once again, Kevin is *NOT* telling the entire story.

There was a contest. Specific prizes were offered. Kevin didn't want the prize
that he won, wanted to have a textured made instead of the Mosac Tiled one that
was already built for the contest prize.

So, Bob, how is it that you know the mosaic "was already built for the
contest prize"? You been moonlighting on the production floor there in
Sacramento? Or are you talking out your ass?

BTW, are you suggesting that a delay of OVER one year is acceptable,
since I requested a textured?

Then there is the problem that *some* people have getting in contact with
Kamado. (I haven't had this problem, since I am persistant, and don't rely on
E-mail or voice mail, just as I don't in everyday life. If I don't get an
answer today or tomorrow, I try again)

Well, bully for you, Bob. You sound like a real go-getter. I expect to
be seeing you on "The Apprentice" any day now.

Somewhere I get the impression that this story is growing each time it is
told.(IMO)

It is, every time you add some unsubstantiated detail.

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"Who put these fingerprints on my imagination?"

On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 09:11:41 -0500, " BOB" wrote:

Kevin S. Wilson wrote:
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 17:33:17 -0600, Steve Wertz
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 23:18:19 GMT, "James Emanuel"
wrote:

I couldn't agree more. Some smart entrepreneur ought to try to buy the
company, and add excellent customer service. Maybe we will end up with rare
collectibles when Kamados are no longer produced.

Redusing the backlog of orders would be a big selling point.
Imagine being able to get a Kamado in a few weeks, rather than
waiting until next season?

I wonder how long it actually takes to make a Kamado, start to finish.
Is the long lag time a result of it taking weeks or months to make
one, or a result of too many orders and not enough worker bees turning
out Kamados? They've always claimed that demand outstrips their
ability to supply, but this is a company that has never done any
advertising.

I ain't gonna wait no stinking 8+mos (well over a year in Kevin's
case - right?). I'm gonna buy something *today*, at Home Depot,
Academy, or Lowes, and have BBQ tomorrow.

Yes, it was over a year, and I was placed in the (for me)
uncomfortable position of having to call them up and say, "Um, excuse
me, but could I have the Kamado you said you were going to give me?"

The icing on that piece of cake? I called on a Monday, and the gal
said, "Oh, you're the contest winner. We can ship that unit this
Wednesday."

Of course, it didn't ship that Wednesday, but instead shipped a month
later. But what were they doing, sitting on my prize K until I bugged
them about it?


I quote from the original post announcing the contest:
"Announcing our 2nd annual Thanksgiving Turkey Contest. We will have three
prizes. First prize will be a #5 Mosaic, second prize will be a #3 Mosaic and
the third prize will be a #1 Mosaic. All will have stainless steel bands and
grills. The winners can pick up their Kamados at our Sacramento Factory or
shipped collect to any destination of their choice. Delivery will be after the
first of the year. "

Not bad. You not only ignored the questions, but you posted your
response as a follow-up to a part of thread that doesn't contain the
question. Side-stepping combined with obfuscation.

Of course, I could be attributing to cunning what could easily be
attributed to incompetence.

But since you're here humping my leg, let me ask the questions again:

So, Bob, how is it that you know the mosaic "was already built for the
contest prize"? You been moonlighting on the production floor there in
Sacramento? Or are you talking out your ass?

BTW, are you suggesting that a delay of OVER one year is acceptable,
since I requested a textured?

Please note that it states "First prize will be a #5 Mosaic," That was the
prize offered, and was ready for shipping at the end of the contest.

So, Bob, how do you know that the prizes were ready for shipping at
the end of the contest? I know that Richard said they would be, but
reality and what Richard says are often at odds.

Apparently, you have some kind of inside track here. Care to share
your insider knowledge? Or are you talking out of your ass?

I remember
you discussing wanting to change to the textured model, since it would match you
existing Kamados. I also remember that we (you and I) *still* discussing this
several months *AFTER* the announcement of the winners.

And your point is?

IMO, Kevin, you are just a grouch old bitch and like to stir up controversy, no
matter how many facts you need to leave out, and no matter how much you need to
twist the truth.

Which post do you suppose was more likely to stir up controversy? Me
posting about the well-documented customer service problems at Kamado?
Or your leg-humping post calling me a liar?

HAND, ass hole.


Bob--and I say this because you are my friend--**** you very much.

PS: Answer the questions.

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"Who put these fingerprints on my imagination?"

Kevin S. Wilson wrote:
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 18:49:37 -0500, " BOB" wrote:


Once again, Kevin is *NOT* telling the entire story.

There was a contest. Specific prizes were offered. Kevin didn't want the
prize that he won, wanted to have a textured made instead of the Mosac Tiled
one that was already built for the contest prize.

So, Bob, how is it that you know the mosaic "was already built for the
contest prize"? You been moonlighting on the production floor there in
Sacramento?

Why do you say "moonlighting"? You really don't know what my full time job is
now, do you?

Or are you talking out your ass?

That seems to be *your* specialty.


BTW, are you suggesting that a delay of OVER one year is acceptable,
since I requested a textured?

Where does this "OVER one year" come from? The contest winners were announced
in the third Newsletter, March 2003. That annonuncement was just barely "over a
year ago"

I'm finished with you on this topic, since I never liked debating, and since the
rest of this group (many of them, any way) doesn't want to read your rants and
partial truths.

BOB

Steve Wertz wrote in
:

On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 06:59:53 -0700, Kevin S. Wilson
wrote:

I wonder how long it actually takes to make a Kamado, start to finish.
Is the long lag time a result of it taking weeks or months to make
one, or a result of too many orders and not enough worker bees turning
out Kamados? They've always claimed that demand outstrips their
ability to supply, but this is a company that has never done any
advertising.

If it takes them 6 months to make a K, then they need to plan
ahead and start making some stock. Customers can order what's in
stock, or wait the 8 months for a custom. Most consumers would
take something that's in stock - I don't worry about colors, just
functionality (as with all my cars, motorcycles and bikes - I'll
take any color/style within reason).

I thought they moved production overseas? Not a good move if all
your customers are in the US. Plus there's the 'princicple'
aspect.

-sw

While I agree with your statement about taking 6 month's, where the hell
did you hear that they were moving production overseas? I've been
debating buying a #7 but I don't want to wait til next season to get it,
and I follow their website pretty closely hoping their is some
announcement regarding dist. All I've seen is their Atlant dist. center
for the coconut extruded lump.



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