Eddie wrote:

Anyone here recommend, or not recommend Springfield?

I've had one of these .45s for years, and I'm very happy with it.

Jim

On 2004-03-23, Eddie wrote:


Today last day of sale.

You better get your ass down there!! That's about $100 cheaper than you'll
find it online:

http://www.impactguns.com/store/spri...ec_1911a1.html

......and Hell yes Springfield makes a nice gun. Kimber's are better, but
cost at least $150-200 more. If you get serious about shooting your 1911,
you'll be customizing it anyway.

Jump, gol'dernit! I'd buy it in a heartbeat and I don't even need one.
Impulse spending is your God given right as an American. Besides, you may
need it to take out some religious fanatics soon. Isreal done shook up up
the hive, real good.

nb ...oiling up my SIG P220 .45

Eddie

I have a matched pair of Springfield 1911A1 V16 Long Slides with 6" barrels.
I take some crap from 9mm guys about only having 7 round clip but I know
that everyone one of my .45 is a put down. If you didn't get a
titanium firing pin, it is the only option that I would say is a must.
Dennis Reese at Springfield is a great guy and willing to invite owners of
his weapons in for a chance to try out other weapons.

Tips for the 1911 is that it does suffer from muzzle climb while shooting.
Keep it clean and it will always take care of you. Practice with it and keep
familar with it and sleep comfortably at night.

Chef

On 2004-03-23, Eddie wrote:

then proceeded to cap off several rounds killing the perpetrator armed
with the gun. The other two fled and are still at large. I'm trying

Like Lord Nelson and Jeff Cooper say: Do the unexpected ...attack!

nb

Eddie wrote:

ps, I bought the gun with serial number WW2-1776, two important
dates/events in American history, wouldn't you say?

That's kinda spooky actually. It adds to it's value if you ask
me.

PS - 45 ACP rocks. I used to shoot about a case a month.

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Eddie wrote:

I've never shot 45 acp's. What distance? Effective range is only
around 35 yards, isn't it?
As a cop I shot .38 S&W 6" barrel consistent 6 inch pattern at 75
yards. Right and left hand barricade.

45's don't have a great deal of inherent mechanical accuracy.
They have a big barrel which tends to jump around and land in a slightly
different angle between shots. You can have them accurized though.
A good gunsmith can take care of it when you're ready. You'll be
shooting 6 inch groups with it, no problem.

I never used a Springfield, I favored the colt model 70. I suspect
the SF has similar advantages, ie. easily adjustable trigger pull
etc. I had mine down to about 3 - 4 ounces. 45 ACP is also great
for reloading. You made a great purchase.

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On 2004-03-23, Eddie wrote:

When I went to purchase the gun the person behind the counter told me
that another 1911 was sold Saturday with a very unusual serial number.
(forgot the number, I'll get it later) The Springfield rep was there
and was asked how that number made it out of the factory. They went
ahead and gave it to the buyer and was offered a free up-grade if he
was willing to trade. The buyer refused. The rep said it was now
worth $1,000.

I'm sure yours now has some colletor's value, too. I think you should put
it aside, unfired, and go buy another one!

Whatever you do, congratulations and have fun. Ya' did good.

nb

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"Master Chef Richard Campbell"
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[]I take some crap from 9mm guys about only having 7 round clip . . .

Chef, there are 10 round mags for it. I have several. I also have a
9mm, but consider it only for across the living room. Otherwise, .45
rules in self-defense handguns, IMHO.

From a statistical stand most gunfights last under 15 seconds and expend
less than 4 rounds total so capacity isn't a huge issue to start with. There
are 8+1 .45 mags out there that I've had good luck with. I used to carry a
ParaOrdinance with a 16 round mag and the added weight made it a pain in the
ass (literally) to carry. Current carry gun is a Taurus snubby revolver 5
round in .45. The hi-cap 9mm guys *need* over 14 rounds to equal the
delivered stopping power of a .45 and that's assuming they can hit center of
mass more than once to start with.

JD

wrote:
Eddie wrote:
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Anyone here recommend, or not recommend Springfield?
Today last day of sale.

Eddie, I have a Springfield Armory 1911-A1 .45 (ACP). Mine has
ambidextrous safety, Bowmar sights, extended magazine well, custom

Ambidextrous safety or not, it's still right ported and'll blow out the
eardrums of a lefty if they arent wearing ear protection.
Not to mention hot brass.

You know how few auto loaders are made lefty and the premium we gotta pay?

D
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Eddie wrote:

I've never shot 45 acp's. What distance? Effective range is only
around 35 yards, isn't it?
As a cop I shot .38 S&W 6" barrel consistent 6 inch pattern at 75
yards. Right and left hand barricade.

Eddie, the .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol) eats 230 grain slugs and
spits them out at 830 fps with 350 ft lbs of energy. Compare that
with the 9mm's 147 grainer. Any torso hit will flatten the most PCP'd
individual you might encounter. After you get comfortable with it
(and you quickly will), with match ammo you can easily shoot 4" to 5"
groups at 75 yds (about 15" drop) on a good day, i.e. no wind and
you've got yer sh** together. Figure effective range 100 yds.

Check out http://www.chucktaylorasaa.com/stoppingpower.html

If you're using your .45 for personal defense I'd suggest not concerning
yourself with long range groups and train at more typical combat ranges, 20
yards or less. IPSC and IDPA are fun ways to hone your gun handling skills.

JD

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Eddie wrote:

I've never shot 45 acp's. What distance? Effective range is only
around 35 yards, isn't it?
As a cop I shot .38 S&W 6" barrel consistent 6 inch pattern at 75
yards. Right and left hand barricade.

Eddie, the .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol) eats 230 grain slugs and
spits them out at 830 fps with 350 ft lbs of energy. Compare that
with the 9mm's 147 grainer. Any torso hit will flatten the most PCP'd
individual you might encounter. After you get comfortable with it
(and you quickly will), with match ammo you can easily shoot 4" to 5"
groups at 75 yds (about 15" drop) on a good day, i.e. no wind and
you've got yer sh** together. Figure effective range 100 yds.

Check out http://www.chucktaylorasaa.com/stoppingpower.html

If you're using your .45 for personal defense I'd suggest not concerning
yourself with long range groups and train at more typical combat ranges,
20
yards or less. IPSC and IDPA are fun ways to hone your gun handling
skills.

JD


Friendly amendment. Personal defense? 20 feet *maximum* range (farther
than that and you're gonna have a *serious* problem in court, explaining why
you hadda kill that guy). And while I agree that .45 is potent, I dumped
mine years ago in favor of a Browning Hi Power (9mm, 13 rounds inna mag).
Always figured that in the middle of the night, right out of bed, I'd have a
bad case of buck fever for the first 6 or 8 outta the tube, then maybe I'd
settle down and do some good with the last four or five.

Jack Curry
-I can shoot real good when it don't matter-

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Eddie wrote:

I've never shot 45 acp's. What distance? Effective range is only
around 35 yards, isn't it?
As a cop I shot .38 S&W 6" barrel consistent 6 inch pattern at 75
yards. Right and left hand barricade.

Eddie, the .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol) eats 230 grain slugs and
spits them out at 830 fps with 350 ft lbs of energy. Compare that
with the 9mm's 147 grainer. Any torso hit will flatten the most
PCP'd individual you might encounter. After you get comfortable
with it (and you quickly will), with match ammo you can easily
shoot 4" to 5" groups at 75 yds (about 15" drop) on a good day,
i.e. no wind and you've got yer sh** together. Figure effective
range 100 yds.

Check out http://www.chucktaylorasaa.com/stoppingpower.html

If you're using your .45 for personal defense I'd suggest not
concerning yourself with long range groups and train at more typical
combat ranges, 20 yards or less. IPSC and IDPA are fun ways to hone
your gun handling skills.

JD


Friendly amendment. Personal defense? 20 feet *maximum* range
(farther than that and you're gonna have a *serious* problem in
court, explaining why you hadda kill that guy). And while I agree
that .45 is potent, I dumped mine years ago in favor of a Browning Hi
Power (9mm, 13 rounds inna mag). Always figured that in the middle of
the night, right out of bed, I'd have a bad case of buck fever for
the first 6 or 8 outta the tube, then maybe I'd settle down and do
some good with the last four or five.

Jack Curry
-I can shoot real good when it don't matter-

I stand by the 20 yards *or less*. A wacko with a knife running toward you
can cover the distance faster than most folks can draw and fire. It's kinda
scary when you see it demonstarted graphically with a role player and a
rubber knife. Otherwise, you're right about the court problem, depending on
your jurisdiction. By the same token, unloading a hi-cap mag on a perp isn't
going to make you look like the model citizen either. Your training drills
should include 3 rounds at close distance; 2 at center of mass and one to
the head in the event the perp is wearing body armor. A gun may be an
equalizer but you still have to treat it with the discipline of a martial
art.

JD

I've always had the suspicion that so called barbecue chest pounders are
killers, not only of animals, but occasionally of humans.

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Eddie wrote:

I've never shot 45 acp's. What distance? Effective range is only
around 35 yards, isn't it?
As a cop I shot .38 S&W 6" barrel consistent 6 inch pattern at 75
yards. Right and left hand barricade.

Eddie, the .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol) eats 230 grain slugs and
spits them out at 830 fps with 350 ft lbs of energy. Compare that
with the 9mm's 147 grainer. Any torso hit will flatten the most PCP'd
individual you might encounter. After you get comfortable with it
(and you quickly will), with match ammo you can easily shoot 4" to 5"
groups at 75 yds (about 15" drop) on a good day, i.e. no wind and
you've got yer sh** together. Figure effective range 100 yds.

Check out http://www.chucktaylorasaa.com/stoppingpower.html

If you're using your .45 for personal defense I'd suggest not concerning
yourself with long range groups and train at more typical combat ranges,
20
yards or less. IPSC and IDPA are fun ways to hone your gun handling
skills.

JD


Friendly amendment. Personal defense? 20 feet *maximum* range (farther
than that and you're gonna have a *serious* problem in court, explaining why
you hadda kill that guy). And while I agree that .45 is potent, I dumped
mine years ago in favor of a Browning Hi Power (9mm, 13 rounds inna mag).
Always figured that in the middle of the night, right out of bed, I'd have a
bad case of buck fever for the first 6 or 8 outta the tube, then maybe I'd
settle down and do some good with the last four or five.

Jack Curry
-I can shoot real good when it don't matter-

"Kent H." wrote in message

I've always had the suspicion that so called barbecue chest pounders
are killers, not only of animals, but occasionally of humans.

I almost killed a man who was trying to drown a cat at a public beach in
front of women and kids (it's a felony in WA). I wouldn't hesitate to fire
on anyone victimizing some weaker. You, OTOH, are probably one of those
pathetic creeps like the ones in NYC that walked by Kitty Genovese while
some creep took his time about raping her and skinning her with a knife in
broad daylight. "I don't want to get involved" must be your mantra. I can be
a killer alright but I'd be more than glad to make an exception on your
behalf.

JD

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Eddie wrote:

I've never shot 45 acp's. What distance? Effective range is only
around 35 yards, isn't it?
As a cop I shot .38 S&W 6" barrel consistent 6 inch pattern at 75
yards. Right and left hand barricade.

Eddie, the .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol) eats 230 grain slugs and
spits them out at 830 fps with 350 ft lbs of energy. Compare that
with the 9mm's 147 grainer. Any torso hit will flatten the most
PCP'd individual you might encounter. After you get comfortable
with it (and you quickly will), with match ammo you can easily
shoot 4" to 5" groups at 75 yds (about 15" drop) on a good day,
i.e. no wind and you've got yer sh** together. Figure effective
range 100 yds.

Check out http://www.chucktaylorasaa.com/stoppingpower.html

If you're using your .45 for personal defense I'd suggest not
concerning yourself with long range groups and train at more
typical combat ranges, 20 yards or less. IPSC and IDPA are fun ways
to hone your gun handling skills.

JD


Friendly amendment. Personal defense? 20 feet *maximum* range
(farther than that and you're gonna have a *serious* problem in
court, explaining why you hadda kill that guy). And while I agree
that .45 is potent, I dumped mine years ago in favor of a Browning
Hi Power (9mm, 13 rounds inna mag). Always figured that in the
middle of the night, right out of bed, I'd have a bad case of buck
fever for the first 6 or 8 outta the tube, then maybe I'd settle
down and do some good with the last four or five.

Jack Curry
-I can shoot real good when it don't matter-

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message

On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 06:12:53 GMT, "JD"
wrote:

I almost killed a man who was trying to drown a cat at a public
beach in front of women and kids (it's a felony in WA).

I'm pretty sure killing a man is a felony in every state.

Depends. Not always while in the commission of a felony. The operative word
above was *almost*. As it was he was fired from his engineering job at
Boeing before he even went to trial and was convicted and sentenced to 5
years during which time his wife divorced him. The cat was adopted out.

JD