"Confining a de-beaked hen in a battery cage is more than a moral
crime; it is a living sign of our failure to recognize the blessing of
God in creation." -- Rev. Dr. Andrew Linzey

"To shut your mind, heart and imagination from the sufferings of
others is to begin slowly, but inexorably, to die. Those Christians
who close their minds and hearts to the cause of animal welfare, and
the evils it seeks to combat, are ignoring the Fundamental spiritual
teachings of Christ himself." -- John Baker, Bishop of Salisbury

"Without the perfect sympathy with the animals around them, no
gentleman's education, no Christian education, could be of any
possible use." -- John Ruskin

"And if thy heart be straight with God, then every creature shall be
to thee a mirror of life and a book of holy doctrine, for there is no
creature so little or so vile, but that sheweth and representeth the
goodness of God." -- Thomas à Kempis

"Every creature is a word of God." -- Meister Eckhart

"God brings millions of flowers to bloom without force." -- Wayne Dyer

"God loved the birds and invented trees. Man loved the birds and
invented cages." -- Jacques Deval

"I tremble for my species when I reflect that God is just." -- Thomas
Jefferson

"If I'm lucky enough to get to heaven I might find that God is a
beaver or a burro. What a sad world it would be if only the two-legged
were here." -- Cleveland Amory

"It ill becomes us to invoke in our daily prayers the blessings of
God, the compassionate, if we in turn will not practice elementary
compassion toward our fellow creatures." -- Mahatma Gandhi

"It is strange to hear people talk of Humanitarianism, who are members
of societies for the prevention of cruelty to children and animals,
and who claim to be God-loving men and women, but who, nevertheless,
encourage by their patronage the killing of animals merely to gratify
the cravings of appetite." -- Otoman Zar-Adusht Ha'nish

"Kindness to all God's creatures is an absolute rock-bottom necessity
if peace and righteousness are to prevail." -- Sir Wilfred Grenfell

"Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy
untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive
them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not
pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and
you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it,
and leave the traces of your foulness after you -- alas, it is true of
almost every one of us!" -- Fyodor Dostoyevsky

"Not to hurt our humble brethren (the animals) is our first duty to
them, but to stop there is not enough. We have a higher mission--to be
of service to them whenever they require it... If you have men who
will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and
pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men."
-- St. Francis of Assisi

"Some say vegetarianism is an alternative diet, but it is the original
diet, the plan designed by God." -- James Marcus

"The moral duty of man consists of imitating the moral goodness and
beneficence of God, manifested in the creation, toward all His
creatures." -- Thomas Paine

"We are all God's creatures -- that we pray to God for mercy and
justice while we continue to eat the flesh of animals that are
slaughtered on our account is not consistent." -- Isaac Bashevis
Singer


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"How long should I cook that sucker."
---Michael Wilson

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 10:17:22 -0500, BKahuna
wrote:

"How long should I cook that sucker."
---Michael Wilson

Would you morons kindly stop feeding the troll?

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
--Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology

"Paul" wrote in message
om...
"Confining a de-beaked hen in a battery cage is more than a moral
crime; it is a living sign of our failure to recognize the blessing of
God in creation." -- Rev. Dr. Andrew Linzey

"To shut your mind, heart and imagination from the sufferings of
others is to begin slowly, but inexorably, to die. Those Christians
who close their minds and hearts to the cause of animal welfare, and
the evils it seeks to combat, are ignoring the Fundamental spiritual
teachings of Christ himself." -- John Baker, Bishop of Salisbury

"Without the perfect sympathy with the animals around them, no
gentleman's education, no Christian education, could be of any
possible use." -- John Ruskin

"And if thy heart be straight with God, then every creature shall be
to thee a mirror of life and a book of holy doctrine, for there is no
creature so little or so vile, but that sheweth and representeth the
goodness of God." -- Thomas à Kempis

"Every creature is a word of God." -- Meister Eckhart

"God brings millions of flowers to bloom without force." -- Wayne Dyer

"God loved the birds and invented trees. Man loved the birds and
invented cages." -- Jacques Deval

"I tremble for my species when I reflect that God is just." -- Thomas
Jefferson

"If I'm lucky enough to get to heaven I might find that God is a
beaver or a burro. What a sad world it would be if only the two-legged
were here." -- Cleveland Amory

"It ill becomes us to invoke in our daily prayers the blessings of
God, the compassionate, if we in turn will not practice elementary
compassion toward our fellow creatures." -- Mahatma Gandhi

"It is strange to hear people talk of Humanitarianism, who are members
of societies for the prevention of cruelty to children and animals,
and who claim to be God-loving men and women, but who, nevertheless,
encourage by their patronage the killing of animals merely to gratify
the cravings of appetite." -- Otoman Zar-Adusht Ha'nish

"Kindness to all God's creatures is an absolute rock-bottom necessity
if peace and righteousness are to prevail." -- Sir Wilfred Grenfell

"Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy
untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive
them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not
pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and
you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it,
and leave the traces of your foulness after you -- alas, it is true of
almost every one of us!" -- Fyodor Dostoyevsky

"Not to hurt our humble brethren (the animals) is our first duty to
them, but to stop there is not enough. We have a higher mission--to be
of service to them whenever they require it... If you have men who
will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and
pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men."
-- St. Francis of Assisi

"Some say vegetarianism is an alternative diet, but it is the original
diet, the plan designed by God." -- James Marcus

"The moral duty of man consists of imitating the moral goodness and
beneficence of God, manifested in the creation, toward all His
creatures." -- Thomas Paine

"We are all God's creatures -- that we pray to God for mercy and
justice while we continue to eat the flesh of animals that are
slaughtered on our account is not consistent." -- Isaac Bashevis
Singer

This world isn't the kingdom of God...if it was, then animals wouldn't eat
other animals either. You also think if you eat only vegetables, you're not
killing other animals? How about when you drive your car? When you walk down
the street?

And for the record, if you have any interest in what Jesus has to say :

Luke:5:4: Now when he had left speaking, he said unto Simon, Launch out into
the deep, and let down your nets for a draught.
5: And Simon answering said unto him, Master, we have toiled all the night,
and have taken nothing: nevertheless at thy word I will let down the net.
6: And when they had this done, they inclosed a great multitude of fishes:
and their net brake.
7: And they beckoned unto their partners, which were in the other ship, that
they should come and help them. And they came, and filled both the ships, so
that they began to sink.

Jesus instructed the fishermen to cast their nets and helped them get
several boatfuls of fish. He also fed the hungry fish and bread.

And I hope you don't think them fish didn't suffer when they were taken out
of the water.

But it was not the intention of Jesus to harm fish, or any other
creature...his only intention was to feed the hungry and abate their hunger.

But i do make a distinction between some animals...I could not eat a dog, I
treat them like pets or family. I don't care for cats but wouln't eat them
either because I think it's gross...I've been raised with acceptance for
eating cow, chicken, fish, pork, goat, shrimp, crab and some other
shellfish. But not once when I eat them do I think -- "Ahhhh I delight in
the suffering of these creatures!" I eat to quell my hunger. Period. If God
didn't intend for us to eat animals or fish, then he would not have made us
to suffer from hunger -- neither the the other animals in the world. If God
never intended for animals to be eaten, then it should begin with the
animals themselves...and to think that animals aren't obeying God when they
eat each other is just pure ignorance and stupidity. There's something
called the ECO system, and if animals didn't eat other animals there would
likely be no room left for human beings.

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"dt" wrote in message
...
Paul wrote:

Hey, Paul, I found this:

"A man is ethical only when life, as such, is sacred to him, that of
plants and animals as well as that of his fellowman, and when he devotes
himself helpfully to all life that is in need of help." Albert
Schweitzer

on your website. So, if the plants are as sacred as the animals, what's
that leave?


rock are sacred