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I live in an apartment in NYC with no balcony so my opportunities for bbqing
and smoking are few and far between. I got a Cameron stove top smoker as a gift. Has anyone ever used one of these things? If so, do you have any tips or recipes? Thanks, Ryan |
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Let me (I hope) hop in here first before you get flamed by the majority in
this group that does not consider anything produced by the Cameron to be real barbeque. I asked a similar question about a year and a half ago and was drawn and quartered. If it weren't for the several verbally kinder people here who said, in effect "go for it" I would have never returned to this group. Having said that, I have since gotten a small Brinkmann smoker and use it almost every week. But I digress: The Cameron is a remarkable cooking device, whether or not anyone here thinks it does real Q. I've done great baby backs, chicken breasts, fish, duck and sausage in there. In general you can follow the preparation advice of outdoor smoking (rubs, mops, etc) but the smoke time be a bit less (as will the resultant quality but still pretty darn good). Try this with baby backs: Remove the membrane and apply a rub at least several hours before you're ready to cook. Use the hickory or mesquite wood. Put the ribs in the Cameron bone side down. From a cold start on your stove fire up one burner but keep the temp fairly low, definitely below medium. If you have a remote meat thermometer and can get it into the Cameron make sure the internal temp isn't above 220. After about 2 1/2 hours remove and put in a 375 oven meat side down for 10 minutes. Apply your bbq sauce to the bone side at this point. Then flip the ribs, apply the sauce and go for another 15 minutes. Ok, everyone, I know this violates about 300 Q rules but the result are some damn good baby backs. There are some other recipes at: http://www.cameronssmoker.com/recipes.html Be really careful with the temp on your stove though. Whether it's the Cameron or a "real" smoker the idea is to not let things get too hot. Think 220. All the best, good luck and let me know how it goes... Peter "vandeley88" wrote in message .. . I live in an apartment in NYC with no balcony so my opportunities for bbqing and smoking are few and far between. I got a Cameron stove top smoker as a gift. Has anyone ever used one of these things? If so, do you have any tips or recipes? Thanks, Ryan |
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Peter,
Thank you for the advice. And thank you for going easy on me. I realize it was a bit of a risk posting a message about an indoor "bbq" device but apartment life has its limitations. I have one other question. How much wood do you use? The smoker came with "smoking dust" but I would like to use actual wood chips. Thanks again, Ryan "Peter" wrote in message ... Let me (I hope) hop in here first before you get flamed by the majority in this group that does not consider anything produced by the Cameron to be real barbeque. I asked a similar question about a year and a half ago and was drawn and quartered. If it weren't for the several verbally kinder people here who said, in effect "go for it" I would have never returned to this group. Having said that, I have since gotten a small Brinkmann smoker and use it almost every week. But I digress: The Cameron is a remarkable cooking device, whether or not anyone here thinks it does real Q. I've done great baby backs, chicken breasts, fish, duck and sausage in there. In general you can follow the preparation advice of outdoor smoking (rubs, mops, etc) but the smoke time be a bit less (as will the resultant quality but still pretty darn good). Try this with baby backs: Remove the membrane and apply a rub at least several hours before you're ready to cook. Use the hickory or mesquite wood. Put the ribs in the Cameron bone side down. From a cold start on your stove fire up one burner but keep the temp fairly low, definitely below medium. If you have a remote meat thermometer and can get it into the Cameron make sure the internal temp isn't above 220. After about 2 1/2 hours remove and put in a 375 oven meat side down for 10 minutes. Apply your bbq sauce to the bone side at this point. Then flip the ribs, apply the sauce and go for another 15 minutes. Ok, everyone, I know this violates about 300 Q rules but the result are some damn good baby backs. There are some other recipes at: http://www.cameronssmoker.com/recipes.html Be really careful with the temp on your stove though. Whether it's the Cameron or a "real" smoker the idea is to not let things get too hot. Think 220. All the best, good luck and let me know how it goes... Peter "vandeley88" wrote in message .. . I live in an apartment in NYC with no balcony so my opportunities for bbqing and smoking are few and far between. I got a Cameron stove top smoker as a gift. Has anyone ever used one of these things? If so, do you have any tips or recipes? Thanks, Ryan |
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I've used their chip product, over-priced that it is. It is "real" wood,
just finely chopped up. I think you could use wood chips but the pieces should be fairly small, with lots of exposed surfaces. Soaking would also help. Let me know what you come up with, I'd be curious. "vandeley88" wrote in message .. . Peter, Thank you for the advice. And thank you for going easy on me. I realize it was a bit of a risk posting a message about an indoor "bbq" device but apartment life has its limitations. I have one other question. How much wood do you use? The smoker came with "smoking dust" but I would like to use actual wood chips. Thanks again, Ryan "Peter" wrote in message ... Let me (I hope) hop in here first before you get flamed by the majority in this group that does not consider anything produced by the Cameron to be real barbeque. I asked a similar question about a year and a half ago and was drawn and quartered. If it weren't for the several verbally kinder people here who said, in effect "go for it" I would have never returned to this group. Having said that, I have since gotten a small Brinkmann smoker and use it almost every week. But I digress: The Cameron is a remarkable cooking device, whether or not anyone here thinks it does real Q. I've done great baby backs, chicken breasts, fish, duck and sausage in there. In general you can follow the preparation advice of outdoor smoking (rubs, mops, etc) but the smoke time be a bit less (as will the resultant quality but still pretty darn good). Try this with baby backs: Remove the membrane and apply a rub at least several hours before you're ready to cook. Use the hickory or mesquite wood. Put the ribs in the Cameron bone side down. From a cold start on your stove fire up one burner but keep the temp fairly low, definitely below medium. If you have a remote meat thermometer and can get it into the Cameron make sure the internal temp isn't above 220. After about 2 1/2 hours remove and put in a 375 oven meat side down for 10 minutes. Apply your bbq sauce to the bone side at this point. Then flip the ribs, apply the sauce and go for another 15 minutes. Ok, everyone, I know this violates about 300 Q rules but the result are some damn good baby backs. There are some other recipes at: http://www.cameronssmoker.com/recipes.html Be really careful with the temp on your stove though. Whether it's the Cameron or a "real" smoker the idea is to not let things get too hot. Think 220. All the best, good luck and let me know how it goes... Peter "vandeley88" wrote in message .. . I live in an apartment in NYC with no balcony so my opportunities for bbqing and smoking are few and far between. I got a Cameron stove top smoker as a gift. Has anyone ever used one of these things? If so, do you have any tips or recipes? Thanks, Ryan |
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Peter wrote:
Let me (I hope) hop in here first before you get flamed by the majority in this group that does not consider anything produced by the Cameron to be real barbeque. I asked a similar question about a year and a half ago and was drawn and quartered. Well Peter, you should be reminded that you were not drawn and quartered for asking "how to" for a cameron stove, but for telling everyone here they were wrong and narrow minded, in so many words. Your explanation is disingenuous at best, plain dishonest at worst. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...29&scoring =d Anyway, you oughta ask what the difference between a Cameron's stove and a LazyQ is, other than size that is. BG D -- |
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Gee D., I hope we don't get into a long thread here that puts this newcomer
off. I guess we could argue about who said who was wrong and first, etc. I think the point was that in this group, as in others that I visit, newcomers risk being D&Q'd by expanding the borders of a topic or by simply asking questions. I still think what I asked was relevant. For the benefit of our new friend and for others who may be drawn to this tiny and arcane sub-topic, what I was posing/asking was this: If barbequeing is defined primarily by the application of smoke, low heat and time to meat, why doesn't the Cameron qualify? After a year and a half of great fun reading useful posts here, trying things out on my ECB and becoming increasingly critical of what I eat when I eat out at a barbecue place, I have come to accept the answer is simply, "cause it isn't." But it's still a good question and it's the rudeness of the correspondence that I was warning our new poster about. I'll also say that the Cameron is a remarkably good product and I'm glad I have it. Now has anyone tried drawn and quartered pork? Is it better than pulled pork? Peter "Duwop" wrote in message ... Peter wrote: Let me (I hope) hop in here first before you get flamed by the majority in this group that does not consider anything produced by the Cameron to be real barbeque. I asked a similar question about a year and a half ago and was drawn and quartered. Well Peter, you should be reminded that you were not drawn and quartered for asking "how to" for a cameron stove, but for telling everyone here they were wrong and narrow minded, in so many words. Your explanation is disingenuous at best, plain dishonest at worst. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...29&scoring =d Anyway, you oughta ask what the difference between a Cameron's stove and a LazyQ is, other than size that is. BG D -- |
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