A memory by Douglas Messerli

When I lived in New york, I often visited my former teacher, Isaac Bashevis
Singer, either in his westside apartment or, since Singer - opposed to the
killing of animals- was a vegetarian, in a nearby dairy bar.
Isaac Singer loved unusual stories, particularly those of the
supernatural or that involved strange phenomena. So I often came armed with
such stories. One time I asked had he read about the recent experiments
scientists had been conducting on plants. "They hook them up to lie
detectors," I reported, "and they've discovered that the plkants react when
spoken to, particularly when they're threatened. A scientist produces a
large knife and the plant goes wild - according to the reading on the lie
detector. Even if the scientist just says, "I'm going to kill the plant," it
evidently has a horrible reaction. One scientist reported that he was going
to cut another plant, and the tree, hooked up to the apparatus, went crazy."
Singer thought about this silently for a long while, then drew a deep
breath, and in his strong Yiddish accent pronounced: "I don't believe a
potato can think!" He was silent a few more seconds. "Besides...if it
could...what would I eat?"


Well maybe this little story doesn't really make my point for me after all.
Could it be we vegetarians are all latent hypocrites?

Veg HeadTofu MatrixBoy

"Veg HeadTofu MatrixBoy" wrote in message
...
A memory by Douglas Messerli

When I lived in New york, I often visited my former teacher, Isaac
Bashevis
Singer, either in his westside apartment or, since Singer - opposed to
the
killing of animals- was a vegetarian, in a nearby dairy bar.
Isaac Singer loved unusual stories, particularly those of the
supernatural or that involved strange phenomena. So I often came armed
with
such stories. One time I asked had he read about the recent experiments
scientists had been conducting on plants. "They hook them up to lie
detectors," I reported, "and they've discovered that the plkants react
when
spoken to, particularly when they're threatened. A scientist produces a
large knife and the plant goes wild - according to the reading on the lie
detector. Even if the scientist just says, "I'm going to kill the plant,"
it
evidently has a horrible reaction. One scientist reported that he was
going
to cut another plant, and the tree, hooked up to the apparatus, went
crazy."
Singer thought about this silently for a long while, then drew a deep
breath, and in his strong Yiddish accent pronounced: "I don't believe a
potato can think!" He was silent a few more seconds. "Besides...if it
could...what would I eat?"


Well maybe this little story doesn't really make my point for me after
all.
Could it be we vegetarians are all latent hypocrites?

Veg HeadTofu MatrixBoy

Why Don't you **** off and die of Lentil poisoning you undernourished
*******!
Go kill some innocent Pallestllian

Graeme... in London wrote:

"Veg HeadTofu MatrixBoy" wrote in message
...
Why Don't you **** off and die of Lentil poisoning you undernourished

*******!
Go kill some innocent Pallestllian

Whoops, a mite touchy there. I think someone was trying to mock the
sock (puppet). Fos?

ObBBQ:

how many out there smoke, then foil their ribs on the cooker? Reasons?
Any difference in the end product?

--
Aloha,

Nathan Lau
San Jose, CA

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In article , Nathan
Lau wrote:

ObBBQ:

how many out there smoke, then foil their ribs on the cooker? Reasons?
Any difference in the end product?

I usually dry rub my ribs, and don't sauce glaze them, so they end up
with a bark on them that would be ruined by the steaming if they were
foil wrapped. Also the foil won't let the rendering fat out-said
rendering occurs close to the time the ribs are nearly done. Some folks
might like steamed ribs floating in fat but I don't.
I vote foil for the smoking wood chunks-not the meat.

monroe(curses foil again)

Nathan Lau typed:
Graeme... in London wrote:

"Veg HeadTofu MatrixBoy" wrote in message
...
Why Don't you **** off and die of Lentil poisoning you undernourished

*******!
Go kill some innocent Pallestllian

Whoops, a mite touchy there. I think someone was trying to mock the
sock (puppet). Fos?

That would be my guess also. (especially the "Fos" part)


ObBBQ:

how many out there smoke, then foil their ribs on the cooker? Reasons?
Any difference in the end product?


I cook my ribs with a rub, no sauce. Direct heat. Makes a nice crust that would
be ruined by the foiling.
I just make sure they don't cool off too much before I eat them, but refrigerated
and eaten cold the next day for breakfast is great also.

BOB

In article , Nathan
Lau wrote:

ObBBQ:

how many out there smoke, then foil their ribs on the cooker? Reasons?
Any difference in the end product?

Everyone on FoodTV does, but I don't like the texture of steamed meat
and fat.

-sw

BOB wrote:

Nathan Lau typed:

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Whoops, a mite touchy there. I think someone was trying to mock the
sock (puppet). Fos?

That would be my guess also. (especially the "Fos" part)

Sorry, I'm using the wrong term. Sock puppets respond to the other
personas. TofuGuy and all the other "nom de Usenet" are tentacles:

http://developer.syndetic.org/query_...?term=tentacle

In any case, quickly killfiling instead of responding to the troll will
help raise the SNR here.

The OP is definitely Fos, as the NNTP posting host numbers are identical.

ObBBQ:

how many out there smoke, then foil their ribs on the cooker? Reasons?
Any difference in the end product?

I cook my ribs with a rub, no sauce. Direct heat. Makes a nice crust that would
be ruined by the foiling.
I just make sure they don't cool off too much before I eat them, but refrigerated
and eaten cold the next day for breakfast is great also.

Which leads me to a different question: who out there applies a
finishing sauce to their meat before pulling?

--
Aloha,

Nathan Lau
San Jose, CA

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Nathan Lau wrote:
Sorry, I'm using the wrong term. Sock puppets respond to the other
personas. TofuGuy and all the other "nom de Usenet" are tentacles:

http://developer.syndetic.org/query_...?term=tentacle


Now we have usenet terminology for name calling for those so mindless
they need to use them. Good grief.

"Nathan Lau" wrote

The OP is definitely Fos, as the NNTP posting host numbers are
identical.


Damn! You guys can take the fun outta most anything, can't ya? OK, I admit
it was me...but the humor was apparently that of GWiv as it appears to have
fallen flat on its face. Oh well, can't win 'em all. You guys coulda waited
a minute or two before narc-ing me out on this one though, maybe allowed me
just a touch of fun.

The story was a true one, posted without copyright permission of any sort,
so I will now mention the book
so as to hopefully mollify any who may be unreasonably ****ed off over the
brazen infringement.

The Sun & Moon Guide To
Eating Through Literature and Art
Edited by Douglas Messerli


Its a collection of food related essays and recipes by artists and writers.
Some really wierd shit in that there tome.

--
Fosco Gamgee Whitfurrows
and his 6" boner

I've read all of Singer's books (translated to English), incusive of his
autobiography. Also, my step mother used to drive him home from UM to his
Surfside home. I can't remember him writting anything about not eating meat.
Maybe only to keep kosher or when money was low.
"Veg HeadTofu MatrixBoy" wrote in message
...
A memory by Douglas Messerli

When I lived in New york, I often visited my former teacher, Isaac
Bashevis
Singer, either in his westside apartment or, since Singer - opposed to
the
killing of animals- was a vegetarian, in a nearby dairy bar.
Isaac Singer loved unusual stories, particularly those of the
supernatural or that involved strange phenomena. So I often came armed
with
such stories. One time I asked had he read about the recent experiments
scientists had been conducting on plants. "They hook them up to lie
detectors," I reported, "and they've discovered that the plkants react
when
spoken to, particularly when they're threatened. A scientist produces a
large knife and the plant goes wild - according to the reading on the lie
detector. Even if the scientist just says, "I'm going to kill the plant,"
it
evidently has a horrible reaction. One scientist reported that he was
going
to cut another plant, and the tree, hooked up to the apparatus, went
crazy."
Singer thought about this silently for a long while, then drew a deep
breath, and in his strong Yiddish accent pronounced: "I don't believe a
potato can think!" He was silent a few more seconds. "Besides...if it
could...what would I eat?"


Well maybe this little story doesn't really make my point for me after
all.
Could it be we vegetarians are all latent hypocrites?

Veg HeadTofu MatrixBoy

For the record Veg/Tofu hijacked my username. Look at the difference
in email addresses.

If you see my username accompanied by a troll post, its not me, its
Veg or Tofu.

If you see a post from me asking questions about Q or posting a
comment such as 'If God didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make
them out of meat?', then its me.

I wish this board was moderated better so these trolls would be
banned and their posts deleted.

F.G. Whitfurrows wrote:

Damn! You guys can take the fun outta most anything, can't ya? OK, I admit
it was me...but the humor was apparently that of GWiv as it appears to have
fallen flat on its face. Oh well, can't win 'em all. You guys coulda waited
a minute or two before narc-ing me out on this one though, maybe allowed me
just a touch of fun.

Sorry, I thought it was an exquisite troll, but it worked a little too
well. *applause*
--
Aloha,

Nathan Lau
San Jose, CA

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In article ,
says...
For the record Veg/Tofu hijacked my username. Look at the difference
in email addresses.

If you see my username accompanied by a troll post, its not me, its
Veg or Tofu.

If you see a post from me asking questions about Q or posting a
comment such as 'If God didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make
them out of meat?', then its me.

I wish this board was moderated better so these trolls would be
banned and their posts deleted.


A: This is a Usenet newsgroup, not a 'board ' of any kind.

B: There is no moderation of any kind in this newsgroup.

HTH,
Bill

On 18 Nov 2003 08:14:25 -0800, (Dot Matrix)
wrote:

I wish this board was moderated better so these trolls would be
banned and their posts deleted.

Well, part of the problem (if there is one) is that it isn't a board.
It's an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup.


--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
--Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology

Nathan Lau typed:
F.G. Whitfurrows wrote:

Damn! You guys can take the fun outta most anything, can't ya? OK, I admit
it was me...but the humor was apparently that of GWiv as it appears to have
fallen flat on its face. Oh well, can't win 'em all. You guys coulda waited
a minute or two before narc-ing me out on this one though, maybe allowed me
just a touch of fun.

Sorry, I thought it was an exquisite troll, but it worked a little too
well. *applause*

Me Too!
LOL

BOB

--
Aloha,

Nathan Lau
San Jose, CA

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