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Low Gas Grill Flame?



 
 
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Old 09-10-2003, 05:48 PM
JR
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I have a 2 burner 44,000 BTU gas grill. I like meat charred and rare, so I
normally use it on high. Last night, halfway thru cooking, the gas ran out.
I put a new bottle on and the flame was very low. Even with both burners on
high, the grill would not develop the extremely hot temp that I like. I've
noticed this (low flame) a couple of times before, but never linked it to a
new bottle. Is it possible that with a new bottle I somehow don't get as
much gas flow (maybe a slower vaporization rate)? Any ideas? Thanks


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Old 09-10-2003, 06:13 PM
Red Hook
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On 10/9/03 9:48 AM, in article ,
"JR" wrote:

I have a 2 burner 44,000 BTU gas grill. I like meat charred and rare, so I
normally use it on high. Last night, halfway thru cooking, the gas ran out.
I put a new bottle on and the flame was very low. Even with both burners on
high, the grill would not develop the extremely hot temp that I like. I've
noticed this (low flame) a couple of times before, but never linked it to a
new bottle. Is it possible that with a new bottle I somehow don't get as
much gas flow (maybe a slower vaporization rate)? Any ideas? Thanks



I had the same problem with my gas grill, and it turned out that my burner
had corroded to where I wasn't getting any pressure. Maybe check yours out-
easy $20 fix. You also might want to take a look at where the controls fit
into the gas lines - the Venturi tubes, I believe - and make sure that no
insects have made that their home.

Good luck,

RH

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Old 09-10-2003, 06:18 PM
Kevin S. Wilson
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:13:40 GMT, Red Hook
wrote:

On 10/9/03 9:48 AM, in article ,
"JR" wrote:

I have a 2 burner 44,000 BTU gas grill. I like meat charred and rare, so I
normally use it on high. Last night, halfway thru cooking, the gas ran out.
I put a new bottle on and the flame was very low. Even with both burners on
high, the grill would not develop the extremely hot temp that I like. I've
noticed this (low flame) a couple of times before, but never linked it to a
new bottle. Is it possible that with a new bottle I somehow don't get as
much gas flow (maybe a slower vaporization rate)? Any ideas? Thanks



I had the same problem with my gas grill, and it turned out that my burner
had corroded to where I wasn't getting any pressure. Maybe check yours out-
easy $20 fix. You also might want to take a look at where the controls fit
into the gas lines - the Venturi tubes, I believe - and make sure that no
insects have made that their home.

There is some aspect of the design of the new overfill prevention
device that restricts the flow of gas under certain conditions. Can't
remember what those conditions are, but I've seen others discussing
the problem here. Seems like it had something to do with not
completely shutting the valve off.


--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
--Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology
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Old 09-10-2003, 06:19 PM
Tom72735
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Default Low Gas Grill Flame?

sounds like opening the valve to ffast and freexing the regulator
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Old 09-10-2003, 06:29 PM
BOB
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Kevin S. Wilson typed:
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:13:40 GMT, Red Hook
wrote:

On 10/9/03 9:48 AM, in article

,
"JR" wrote:

I have a 2 burner 44,000 BTU gas grill. I like meat charred and rare, so

I
normally use it on high. Last night, halfway thru cooking, the gas ran

out.
I put a new bottle on and the flame was very low. Even with both burners

on
high, the grill would not develop the extremely hot temp that I like.

I've
noticed this (low flame) a couple of times before, but never linked it to

a
new bottle. Is it possible that with a new bottle I somehow don't get as
much gas flow (maybe a slower vaporization rate)? Any ideas? Thanks



I had the same problem with my gas grill, and it turned out that my burner
had corroded to where I wasn't getting any pressure. Maybe check yours

out-
easy $20 fix. You also might want to take a look at where the controls

fit
into the gas lines - the Venturi tubes, I believe - and make sure that no
insects have made that their home.

There is some aspect of the design of the new overfill prevention
device that restricts the flow of gas under certain conditions. Can't
remember what those conditions are, but I've seen others discussing
the problem here. Seems like it had something to do with not
completely shutting the valve off.


Yup.
Turn off the valve at the tank. Disconnect the hose. Turn off the valve to
the regulator. Re-connect the hose. Make sure the valve to the regulator is
closed. Open the valve on the tank. Open the valve on the regulator and
light the burner. Adjust the flame.

With the new "safety valves" that are incorporated in the OPD, any flow when
you open the tank's valve will kick in and only allow a low flow of the gas,
as you noticed. If you just close the valves and not disconnect the hose, it
might or might not re-set. You are being protected from your self.

BOB
who picked up his Kamado3 with the gas option at 7:00 this am


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Old 09-10-2003, 06:38 PM
Jack-Curry
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" BOB" wrote in message
. ..

snipped BOB's correct answer to the OP.

BOB, who picked up his Kamado3 with the gas option at 7:00 this am

Dang, that was a long wait. Glad for ya, BOB and I'll be interested in
hearing how you like the quick starts with the gas option.
Jack Curry


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Old 09-10-2003, 07:35 PM
Kevin S. Wilson
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On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:29:48 -0400, " BOB" wrote:

who picked up his Kamado3 with the gas option at 7:00 this am


Is that the K you won in the turkey contest? Mine was supposed to ship
August 28, but I haven't heard a thing from Kamado about it.


--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
--Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology
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Old 09-10-2003, 08:17 PM
BOB
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In ,
Kevin S. Wilson typed:
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:29:48 -0400, " BOB" wrote:

who picked up his Kamado3 with the gas option at 7:00 this am


Is that the K you won in the turkey contest? Mine was supposed to ship
August 28, but I haven't heard a thing from Kamado about it.


Yes! I've been talking to them semi regularly. I was waiting for "my ship
to come in" with the charcoal, but when it was delayed until the end of
October, I said go ahead and ship the #3. I need it this weekend:
http://www.hp.ufl.edu/~tlambert/Flor...-fest-home.htm
Out of 11 ceramic cookers, three will be Kamados (mine). I just wonder about
all those other Florida Kamado ownere...they (J. C.?) must be slackers!

BOB


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Old 09-10-2003, 08:21 PM
BOB
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Jack-Curry typed:
" BOB" wrote in message
. ..

snipped BOB's correct answer to the OP.

BOB, who picked up his Kamado3 with the gas option at 7:00 this am

Dang, that was a long wait. Glad for ya, BOB and I'll be interested in
hearing how you like the quick starts with the gas option.
Jack Curry


Not really that long from when I asked for it to be shipped. It actually
made it across the country a day and a half ahead of the first schedule that
Con-Way gave me.

I don't have the right fittings to use the gas this weekend, but as soon as I
get back from:
http://www.hp.ufl.edu/~tlambert/Flor...-fest-home.htm
I'll start looking.

BOB
who thinks Jack should drive up to Ocala Saturday or Sunday


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Old 09-10-2003, 09:10 PM
Jack-Curry
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Default Low Gas Grill Flame?


" BOB" wrote in message
...
Jack-Curry typed:
" BOB" wrote in message
. ..

snipped BOB's correct answer to the OP.

BOB, who picked up his Kamado3 with the gas option at 7:00 this am

Dang, that was a long wait. Glad for ya, BOB and I'll be interested in
hearing how you like the quick starts with the gas option.
Jack Curry


Not really that long from when I asked for it to be shipped. It actually
made it across the country a day and a half ahead of the first schedule

that
Con-Way gave me.

I don't have the right fittings to use the gas this weekend, but as soon

as I
get back from:
http://www.hp.ufl.edu/~tlambert/Flor...-fest-home.htm
I'll start looking.

BOB
who thinks Jack should drive up to Ocala Saturday or Sunday


Much as I'd like to, I have non-stop out-of-towners hitting me beginning
this weekend. Enjoy yourself, it's a perfect time of year for the Silver
River. Wish I could be there.
Jack


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Old 10-10-2003, 02:57 AM
JR
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Default Low Gas Grill Flame?

Thanks, that is EXACTLY what happened. When I replaced the tank, I left the
valves open (stupidly g), then re-lit the grill. Disconnected and
reconnected everything today and all is A-OK. Appreciate the help!


" BOB" wrote in message
. ..
Kevin S. Wilson typed:
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:13:40 GMT, Red Hook
wrote:

On 10/9/03 9:48 AM, in article

,
"JR" wrote:

I have a 2 burner 44,000 BTU gas grill. I like meat charred and rare,

so
I
normally use it on high. Last night, halfway thru cooking, the gas

ran
out.
I put a new bottle on and the flame was very low. Even with both

burners
on
high, the grill would not develop the extremely hot temp that I like.

I've
noticed this (low flame) a couple of times before, but never linked it

to
a
new bottle. Is it possible that with a new bottle I somehow don't get

as
much gas flow (maybe a slower vaporization rate)? Any ideas? Thanks



I had the same problem with my gas grill, and it turned out that my

burner
had corroded to where I wasn't getting any pressure. Maybe check yours

out-
easy $20 fix. You also might want to take a look at where the controls

fit
into the gas lines - the Venturi tubes, I believe - and make sure that

no
insects have made that their home.

There is some aspect of the design of the new overfill prevention
device that restricts the flow of gas under certain conditions. Can't
remember what those conditions are, but I've seen others discussing
the problem here. Seems like it had something to do with not
completely shutting the valve off.


Yup.
Turn off the valve at the tank. Disconnect the hose. Turn off the valve

to
the regulator. Re-connect the hose. Make sure the valve to the regulator

is
closed. Open the valve on the tank. Open the valve on the regulator and
light the burner. Adjust the flame.

With the new "safety valves" that are incorporated in the OPD, any flow

when
you open the tank's valve will kick in and only allow a low flow of the

gas,
as you noticed. If you just close the valves and not disconnect the hose,

it
might or might not re-set. You are being protected from your self.

BOB
who picked up his Kamado3 with the gas option at 7:00 this am




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Old 10-10-2003, 03:06 AM
BOB
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In ,
JR typed:
Thanks, that is EXACTLY what happened. When I replaced the tank, I left

the
valves open (stupidly g), then re-lit the grill. Disconnected and
reconnected everything today and all is A-OK. Appreciate the help!


Used-ta work with the old valves. Now we've got to be protected from
ourselves. I never started a fire or blew myself up with the old ones, I
don't think.
Just don't do it again (-;

BOB


 




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