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Believe it or not, after having my #7 Kamado since *last April* (2002),
tonight I summoned up the courage to slap a 12 lb brisket on the K. Covered in yeller mustard, some Lawry's salt, black pepper, celery seed, thyme and a touch of Old Bay Seasoning (I love the stuff), it went on at 8 pm, 200 degrees dome temp, a full load of lump, some apple chunks, and fingers crossed until tomorrow. FWIW, I am cooking it direct, on the upper grill, on a v-rack, no drip pan, no heat deflector, fat cap up. It's at least 18" from the coals, and at 200 degrees I don't expect too many problems. Will post tomorrow, post meal, with results. -- Jon Endres, PE Reply To: wmengineer (at) adelphia (dot) net |
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Jon Endres, PE wrote in message et... Believe it or not, after having my #7 Kamado since *last April* (2002), tonight I summoned up the courage to slap a 12 lb brisket on the K. Covered in yeller mustard, some Lawry's salt, black pepper, celery seed, thyme and a touch of Old Bay Seasoning (I love the stuff), it went on at 8 pm, 200 degrees dome temp, a full load of lump, some apple chunks, and fingers crossed until tomorrow. FWIW, I am cooking it direct, on the upper grill, on a v-rack, no drip pan, no heat deflector, fat cap up. It's at least 18" from the coals, and at 200 degrees I don't expect too many problems. Will post tomorrow, post meal, with results. -- Jon Endres, PE Reply To: wmengineer (at) adelphia (dot) net Sleep well, Jon. Look forward to the post. You'll have a great surprise in the morning when you see that 12 pounder down to about 6 or seven pounds. With the celery seed and the Old Bay..........you prolly live in someplace like....hmmm Baltimore? John in Austin PS: Let that sucker rest in foil for a good one to two hours! |
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"Jon Endres, PE" wrote FWIW, I am cooking it direct, on the upper grill, on a v-rack, no drip pan, no heat deflector, fat cap up. It's at least 18" from the coals, and at 200 degrees I don't expect too many problems. Flip it. No need for a rack, don't K's come with racks? -Hound |
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No need to flip it in the K and no need for the extra rack - just put it directly on the upper grill - or even on the main at such a moderate temp. Assuming the temp remains well behaved all night then you're pretty well guaranteed a success!!!
I've done a dozen or so briskets on my #9 with nary a problem. Steve |
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"JakBQuik" wrote in message news
You'll have a great surprise in the morning when you see that 12 pounder down to about 6 or seven pounds. Temp was down to 160 this morning - almost out of charcoal. It's back upto about 210 now, but it also hit about 26 outside last night. With the celery seed and the Old Bay..........you prolly live in someplace like....hmmm Baltimore? Nope - Vermont. BBQ is completely unknown in these parts. John in Austin PS: Let that sucker rest in foil for a good one to two hours! Yep, will do. |
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hillkwaj wrote No need to flip it in the K and no need for the extra rack - just put it directly on the upper grill - I was suggesting he cook it fat side down, but then I cook my briskets hotter than most. Fat *towards* the heat source, like in a K cooked direct, will protect the meat. -Hound |
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Cuchulain Libby typed:
hillkwaj wrote No need to flip it in the K and no need for the extra rack - just put it directly on the upper grill - I was suggesting he cook it fat side down, but then I cook my briskets hotter than most. Fat *towards* the heat source, like in a K cooked direct, will protect the meat. -Hound I agree with Hound's fat *towards* the heat, direct heat (no heat deflector) especially in a K. Nice juicy almost pullable brisket. (Where *did* I get the idea?) vbg I have been known to cook the brisket on the upper rack, with other things on the main grill. This way, the brisket is closer to the radient heat of the dome and a few inches further away from the fire. BOB |
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" BOB" wrote in message . .. Cuchulain Libby typed: hillkwaj wrote No need to flip it in the K and no need for the extra rack - just put it directly on the upper grill - I was suggesting he cook it fat side down, but then I cook my briskets hotter than most. Fat *towards* the heat source, like in a K cooked direct, will protect the meat. -Hound I agree with Hound's fat *towards* the heat, direct heat (no heat deflector) especially in a K. Nice juicy almost pullable brisket. (Where *did* I get the idea?) vbg I have been known to cook the brisket on the upper rack, with other things on the main grill. This way, the brisket is closer to the radient heat of the dome and a few inches further away from the fire. BOB Removed at 4 pm after cooking at 190-200 since 8 pm previous night. Picked up, fell apart. Really hard bark on bottom, next time will be fat down. Rest of meat was unsliceable, it fell apart like pulled pork. Very juicy, full of flavor and big smoke ring. Did not use a thermometer to check, I suspect it was done well before I pulled it off the grill. Not bad, need a lot more spice rub next time though, and need to check internal temp. Jon |
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On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 05:23:47 GMT, "JakBQuik"
wrote: Jon Endres, PE wrote in message . net... Believe it or not, after having my #7 Kamado since *last April* (2002), tonight I summoned up the courage to slap a 12 lb brisket on the K. Covered in yeller mustard, some Lawry's salt, black pepper, celery seed, thyme and a touch of Old Bay Seasoning (I love the stuff), it went on at 8 pm, 200 degrees dome temp, a full load of lump, some apple chunks, and fingers crossed until tomorrow. FWIW, I am cooking it direct, on the upper grill, on a v-rack, no drip pan, no heat deflector, fat cap up. It's at least 18" from the coals, and at 200 degrees I don't expect too many problems. Will post tomorrow, post meal, with results. -- Jon Endres, PE Reply To: wmengineer (at) adelphia (dot) net Sleep well, Jon. Look forward to the post. You'll have a great surprise in the morning when you see that 12 pounder down to about 6 or seven pounds. With the celery seed and the Old Bay..........you prolly live in someplace like....hmmm Baltimore? John in Austin PS: Let that sucker rest in foil for a good one to two hours! I don't do brisket that often, primarily for the reason that it costs so much here in Calgary, that I can upgrade for very little money. So I am wondering what the purpose resting it in foil - for two hours - serves. Harry |
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"Jon Endres, PE" wrote in message et... " BOB" wrote in message . .. Cuchulain Libby typed: hillkwaj wrote No need to flip it in the K and no need for the extra rack - just put it directly on the upper grill - I was suggesting he cook it fat side down, but then I cook my briskets hotter than most. Fat *towards* the heat source, like in a K cooked direct, will protect the meat. -Hound I agree with Hound's fat *towards* the heat, direct heat (no heat deflector) especially in a K. Nice juicy almost pullable brisket. (Where *did* I get the idea?) vbg I have been known to cook the brisket on the upper rack, with other things on the main grill. This way, the brisket is closer to the radient heat of the dome and a few inches further away from the fire. BOB Removed at 4 pm after cooking at 190-200 since 8 pm previous night. Picked up, fell apart. Really hard bark on bottom, next time will be fat down. Rest of meat was unsliceable, it fell apart like pulled pork. Very juicy, full of flavor and big smoke ring. Did not use a thermometer to check, I suspect it was done well before I pulled it off the grill. Not bad, need a lot more spice rub next time though, and need to check internal temp. Jon Next time, try a trick somebody showed me here on the newsgroup with pulled pork. Slice the brisket up and then sprinkle some more of your favorite rub across it before serving. It really enhances the flavor and gives the meat a good appearance! Danny Hardesty |
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Jon Endres, PE wrote: Removed at 4 pm after cooking at 190-200 since 8 pm previous night. Picked up, fell apart. Really hard bark on bottom, next time will be fat down. Rest of meat was unsliceable, it fell apart like pulled pork. Very juicy, full of flavor and big smoke ring. Did not use a thermometer to check, I suspect it was done well before I pulled it off the grill. Not bad, need a lot more spice rub next time though, and need to check internal temp. Sounds like you had shredded beef. Nothing wrong with that. If you got pics, they can be posted on alt.binaries.food Happy Q'en, BBQ Jon |
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Resting in the foil lets the meat reabsorb juices. Seems to help tenderness
as well, but I can't swear to it. -- Regards Louis Cohen Living la vida loca at N37° 43' 7.9" W122° 8' 42.8" "Harry Demidavicius" wrote in message ... On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 05:23:47 GMT, "JakBQuik" wrote: Jon Endres, PE wrote in message . net... Believe it or not, after having my #7 Kamado since *last April* (2002), tonight I summoned up the courage to slap a 12 lb brisket on the K. Covered in yeller mustard, some Lawry's salt, black pepper, celery seed, thyme and a touch of Old Bay Seasoning (I love the stuff), it went on at 8 pm, 200 degrees dome temp, a full load of lump, some apple chunks, and fingers crossed until tomorrow. FWIW, I am cooking it direct, on the upper grill, on a v-rack, no drip pan, no heat deflector, fat cap up. It's at least 18" from the coals, and at 200 degrees I don't expect too many problems. Will post tomorrow, post meal, with results. -- Jon Endres, PE Reply To: wmengineer (at) adelphia (dot) net Sleep well, Jon. Look forward to the post. You'll have a great surprise in the morning when you see that 12 pounder down to about 6 or seven pounds. With the celery seed and the Old Bay..........you prolly live in someplace like....hmmm Baltimore? John in Austin PS: Let that sucker rest in foil for a good one to two hours! I don't do brisket that often, primarily for the reason that it costs so much here in Calgary, that I can upgrade for very little money. So I am wondering what the purpose resting it in foil - for two hours - serves. Harry |
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When I cook briskets on my K, I keep the fat side up... I'd rather have the
fat basting the meat than protecting it from direct heat. So I always use a drip pan under the brisket on a bracket below the brisket. So the pan protects the meat, and the fat does its job. "Jon Endres, PE" wrote in message et... " BOB" wrote in message . .. Cuchulain Libby typed: hillkwaj wrote No need to flip it in the K and no need for the extra rack - just put it directly on the upper grill - I was suggesting he cook it fat side down, but then I cook my briskets hotter than most. Fat *towards* the heat source, like in a K cooked direct, will protect the meat. -Hound I agree with Hound's fat *towards* the heat, direct heat (no heat deflector) especially in a K. Nice juicy almost pullable brisket. (Where *did* I get the idea?) vbg I have been known to cook the brisket on the upper rack, with other things on the main grill. This way, the brisket is closer to the radient heat of the dome and a few inches further away from the fire. BOB Removed at 4 pm after cooking at 190-200 since 8 pm previous night. Picked up, fell apart. Really hard bark on bottom, next time will be fat down. Rest of meat was unsliceable, it fell apart like pulled pork. Very juicy, full of flavor and big smoke ring. Did not use a thermometer to check, I suspect it was done well before I pulled it off the grill. Not bad, need a lot more spice rub next time though, and need to check internal temp. Jon |
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"Alan Z." wrote in message et... When I cook briskets on my K, I keep the fat side up... I'd rather have the fat basting the meat than protecting it from direct heat. So I always use a drip pan under the brisket on a bracket below the brisket. So the pan protects the meat, and the fat does its job. It'll still baste the meat, juices wick away from heat. Look at a steak or a burger. But as I said before, I cook hotter and I'm referring to my 'little' pit's vert, on the Lazyq I can move the briskets away from the fbox and therefore cook fat up. -Hound |
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