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Freezing Vac packed Brisket?



 
 
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Old 27-10-2009, 07:38 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue
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Default Freezing Vac packed Brisket?

Anything I need to know about freezing a raw brisket? The local meat
playground (Cattleman's) has brisket on special this week for $1.99/lb
and I would like to get one (or maybe two) and stick it in the deep
freeze.

As long as it stays in the unopened vacuum pack, is there any harm to
freezing it? Defrost in the fridge for a few days before smoking?

Any other negatives to freezing?

Thanks

Rob
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Old 27-10-2009, 07:59 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue
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Default Freezing Vac packed Brisket?

RockPyle wrote:

Anything I need to know about freezing a raw brisket? The local meat
playground (Cattleman's) has brisket on special this week for $1.99/lb
and I would like to get one (or maybe two) and stick it in the deep
freeze.

As long as it stays in the unopened vacuum pack, is there any harm to
freezing it? Defrost in the fridge for a few days before smoking?

Any other negatives to freezing?

Thanks

Rob


You got it right. If it's vac packed, you're ok. Otherwise
it has a much shorter life in the freezer... more like days/weeks
instead of months.

I've had vacpacked frozen brisket go 2+ years with no harm.
Defrost in the fridge takes about 2 days.

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Old 28-10-2009, 02:57 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue
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Default Freezing Vac packed Brisket?

On Oct 28, 1:03*am, "Nunya Bidnits" nunyabidn...@eternal-
september.invalid wrote:
RockPyle said:

Anything I need to know about freezing a raw brisket? *The local meat
playground (Cattleman's) has brisket on special this week for $1.99/lb
and I would like to get one (or maybe two) and stick it in the deep
freeze.


As long as it stays in the unopened vacuum pack, is there any harm to
freezing it? *Defrost in the fridge for a few days before smoking?


Any other negatives to freezing?


Thanks


Rob


I don't know how long you want to hold it, but check the pack date. You can
hold it up to 45 days from that date in refrigeration in the coldest part of
the fridge. It's considered "wet aging". This is true only for cryo packs
and the package has to be perfectly intact. If there is any air leakage, it
will spoil.

MartyB in KC


Thanks, Marty. I read the comments on wet aging (yours?) a couple of
weeks ago and stuck it into the back of my mind. It sounded a little
scary, but I may try it some day.

I'll be off to buy a hunk o' beast this afternoon!

Rob
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Old 28-10-2009, 04:45 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue
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Default Freezing Vac packed Brisket?


"RockPyle" wrote in message
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Anything I need to know about freezing a raw brisket? The local meat
playground (Cattleman's) has brisket on special this week for $1.99/lb
and I would like to get one (or maybe two) and stick it in the deep
freeze.

As long as it stays in the unopened vacuum pack, is there any harm to
freezing it? Defrost in the fridge for a few days before smoking?

Any other negatives to freezing?

Thanks

Rob


What Marty said
BeeJay


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Old 29-10-2009, 04:02 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
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Default Freezing Vac packed Brisket?


On 28-Oct-2009, "Nunya Bidnits"
wrote:

RockPyle said:
On Oct 28, 1:03 am, "Nunya Bidnits" nunyabidn...@eternal-


.. . .

I was skeptical too, but I learned more about it right here in this
forum,
and recieved links to investigate further. I'm just passing it on, but
there
are many folks here who know a lot more about handling meat and food
safety
than I do.

My most impressive credential on this subject is that I have yet to die
from
eating any wet aged brisket. ;-)

MartyB


I'm skeptical too. From what I've learned here, I can't possibly
be alive today. I'd surely have been dead at least 20 years by
now. In fact, I'm surprised that I survived childhood.

--
Brick (Youth is wasted on young people)
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Old 29-10-2009, 06:04 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
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Default Freezing Vac packed Brisket?

"Brick" wrote:
"Nunya Bidnits" wrote:
RockPyle said:
On Oct 28, 1:03 am, "Nunya Bidnits" nunyabidn...@eternal-


I was skeptical too, but I learned more about it right here in this
forum, and recieved links to investigate further. I'm just passing it
on, but there are many folks here who know a lot more about handling
meat and food safety than I do.

My most impressive credential on this subject is that I have yet to die
from eating any wet aged brisket. ;-)


I'm skeptical too. From what I've learned here, I can't possibly
be alive today. I'd surely have been dead at least 20 years by
now. In fact, I'm surprised that I survived childhood.


Survived it? You're re-living it, ya old goat!

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Old 29-10-2009, 10:29 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
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Default Freezing Vac packed Brisket?

I'm skeptical too. From what I've learned here, I can't possibly
be alive today. I'd surely have been dead at least 20 years by
now. In fact, I'm surprised that I survived childhood.



Survived it? You're re-living it, ya old goat!



You kids cut it out and be nice to each other!

Mom and Dad
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Old 29-10-2009, 01:25 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue
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Default Freezing Vac packed Brisket?

On Oct 29, 3:29*am, Craig Watts
wrote:
I'm skeptical too. From what I've learned here, I can't possibly
be alive today. I'd surely have been dead at least 20 years by
now. In fact, I'm surprised that I survived childhood.


Survived it? You're re-living it, ya old goat!


You kids cut it out and be nice to each other!

Mom and Dad


Oh look! It's a nanny-goat. ;-)

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Old 29-10-2009, 02:49 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue
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On Oct 28, 10:45*am, "Big Jim" wrote:

What Marty said
BeeJay


Ditto.

I never gave a thought to freezing an thawing a briskets. Just do it
once, though. Thawing it and then changing your mind (bad weather,
etc., that keeps you from smoking) and re-freezing makes the meat
texture funky.

After reading about it somewhere a few times, then finally here, I
tried wet aging a brisket. I worked great, and it added another
dimension to the flavor and texture.

After being in the fridge for exactly six weeks from purchase, I took
it out and washed it off. It smelled different, but no bad. Kinda of
like when you clean game and have that really rich blood smell; not
bad, just different.

A night in the fridge with rub on it, then out to the smoker to cook
as usual.

The results were great. The meat had a more intense meat flavor to it
all the way through, not a bite was bland. It's hard to describe.
The best way would be to compare an aged steak to a non-aged steak.
Both are good, but it depends on what you are in the mood to eat. I
now leave the briskets in the fridge for about 3 weeks or so before
cooking.

Robert
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Old 29-10-2009, 10:25 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue
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"Nunya Bidnits" wrote:
Brick said:
[ . . . ]
I'm skeptical too. From what I've learned here, I can't possibly
be alive today. I'd surely have been dead at least 20 years by
now. In fact, I'm surprised that I survived childhood.


Me too! I got sent to a cardiologist recently because of a minor change
in EKG that was probably due to a medicine. They expected problems
because I have all the risk factors, being treated for high blood
pressure, treated for high cholesterol which is still too high on the bad
stuff and too low on the good stuff, borderline high blood sugar,
reformed smoker, poor exercise habits, somewhat overweight, 57 years old.
So they do this thing called a Cardio Scan which is supposed to reveal
calcified plaque in the heart. Nada. Zip. Negative. Nothing to see here.
OK, so then they do an Ekogram or something like that, sonogram on the
heart to make sure things are pumping, arteries are open, valves working
correctly, etc. Nada again. Zip. Nothing to see. And they ordered blood
tests. Nada again.

I can't wait until I see my GP again so I can say neener neener.


I love negative test results. I've had an unremitting headache in the outer
lower right part of my brain for over a year. Mostly low level,
occasionally bad enough that I have to take a couple of Tylenol every two
or three weeks, but always there. Brain MRI and MRA of the Circle of
Willis, ordered by Neurologist, were normal. Finally, my doctor sent me to
see a Neurosurgeon, who ordered CT scans of my mastoids and sinuses. Turns
out my sinuses are completely stuffed and blocked. He sent me to an ears,
nose, throat doc. I'm now taking an antibiotic (Augmentin) and Nasonex
($$$). Get another sinus CT in a month and see the e.n.t guy a few days
later. Gotta get this done before Obamacare kicks in.

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families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ Thank a Veteran!
Support Our Troops: http://anymarine.com/ You are not forgotten.
Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ USMC 1365061
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Old 30-10-2009, 01:45 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
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"Nunya Bidnits" wrote:
Nick Cramer said:
Turns out my sinuses are completely stuffed and blocked.
He sent me to an ears, nose, throat doc. I'm now taking an antibiotic
(Augmentin) and Nasonex ($$$). Get another sinus CT in a month and
see the e.n.t guy a few days later. Gotta get this done before
Obamacare kicks in.


There's a generic spray, based on Flonase, that is much cheaper, and does
exactly the same thing as Nasonex. It's called flucitasone proprionate. I
know it works because I have bad allergies and use the stuff all the
time.

ENTs are notorious for being beholden to the big drug companies, the kind
of predatory alliance that makes me wish Obamacare would hurry up. But
regardless, if the ENT doesn't want to give you the generic, I bet your
GP will. That's where I get mine.


Thanks, Marty. My co-pay for 17 gms of Nasonex is $34! I'll re-fill it with
the generic.

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families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ Thank a Veteran!
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On Oct 29, 10:55*am, "Nunya Bidnits" nunyabidn...@eternal-
september.invalid wrote:
said:



On Oct 28, 10:45 am, "Big Jim" wrote:


What Marty said
BeeJay


Ditto.


I never gave a thought to freezing an thawing a briskets. *Just do it
once, though. *Thawing it and then changing your mind (bad weather,
etc., that keeps you from smoking) and re-freezing makes the meat
texture funky.


After reading about it somewhere a few times, then finally here, I
tried wet aging a brisket. *I worked great, and it added another
dimension to the flavor and texture.


After being in the fridge for exactly six weeks from purchase, I took
it out and washed it off. *It smelled different, but no bad. *Kinda of
like when you clean game and have that really rich blood smell; not
bad, just different.


A night in the fridge with rub on it, then out to the smoker to cook
as usual.


The results were great. *The meat had a more intense meat flavor to it
all the way through, not a bite was bland. *It's hard to describe.
The best way would be to compare an aged steak to a non-aged steak.
Both are good, but it depends on what you are in the mood to eat. *I
now leave the briskets in the fridge for about 3 weeks or so before
cooking.


Robert


I also find a distinctive odor to the cryo aged beef, and make sure to rinse
and dry the beef before seasoning it up. Once well rinsed that odor
disappears. It comes from the blood in the pack. And if it's been in a
little too long, or somehow the package was compromised, then there is a
very distinct foul odor to the cryo blood which is similar, but very
unpleasant, and it will remain on the meat even after rinsing.


Exactly my experience.

That's why I have chickened out and don't go over 3 - 4 weeks in the
fridge with the briskets to age them. And before I will refrigerator
age, I make sure I ask Joe (my butcher buddy) how fresh they are.

If he isn't sure, or if they come from a certain plant he is familiar
with, I may only go from the weekend of shopping to the next weekend
before cooking.

The results after all, aren't different enough to take a chance on
someone's health, or worse throw out a $20 piece of meat.

Robert

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"Nunya Bidnits" wrote in message
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.... wish Obamacare would hurry up. ...

MartyB


Sad. Really, really sad to hear that.

B~


 




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