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This is similar to a post I made to another forum. I am repeating it
here, instead of cross posting. It applies to the folk living in the SW part of the country, though the expansion plans of the new chain are to eventually hit all major markets, I've read. ------------------------------------------ Some of you who live in Las Vegas, or might be visiting in a timeshare where you do a little cooking, might be interested in our local Fresh & Easy grocery stores. They're an experimental subsidiary of the largest European supermarket chain, and are trying to develop stores in CA, NV and AZ that combine the convenience of a mini mart with the ready to cook food of a grocery store's deli and the "natural" foods concept of TJ's or Whole Foods. The prices I've seen are in the range of TJ's and far less than Whole Foods. They date everything, so you can be reasonably assured that the food is within its shelf life. Mrs. Nonny and I usually have meals for just ourselves or one other, so we prefer smaller portions of food that I don't have to screw around a long time preparing. For instance, I scored two 6-oz. fresh, never frozen, albacore tuna steaks for dinner tonight for $6.99/# and a pound of fresh cut fruit salad for about $2.50. It's not just about the price, but also the convenience. The stores are smaller than even the smallest Albertson's or Smith's, but much larger than a "Quickie Mart," while offering a fine selection of most foods. I posted here before about my love for the Motherlode cake sold at Claim Jumper's. Well, Fresh & Easy has a prepared dessert section that has some really incredible foods like sp tres leches or dulce de leche in individual servings, tira misu and several other offerings. They're fresh, dated and in just the right size for one or two people. Like many of the Fresh & Easy prepared items, they're prepared at a commissary and delivered fresh daily to the stores, I suspect. The size of the stores is just right, IMHO. The layout still "sucks" as my kids say, in that you have to go clear to the back of the store to get milk and other most frequently needed items. However, the size means that the back of the store is more like the front of an Albertson's or Smith's, and you don't need to crawl over lawn furniture, grills, Christmas decorations and pool supplies to get a dozen eggs a quarter of a mile back in the store. I like that. The stores are not intended to replace the mega grocery stores, but to provide an easy place to grab what you probably will need for a good supper, while being assured that it's both fresh and probably not chemically enhanced. Sam's Club cut the heart out of many smaller retailers by mass purchases and no frill sales of the most commonly purchased items. For instance, Sam's or Costco buy the most popular "Chevrolet" type of washers, dryers and refrigerators, leaving just the very bottom and top ends of the lines for the local merchants to sell competitively. Fresh & Easy seems to be going after the big chains with their pared down selection of the most commonly desired foods in the most commonly desired sizes of packaging. They are also obviously targeting Trader Joe, Whole Foods and similar "natural" food stores with similar items at lower prices than most of the "natural" foodstores. Like Trader Joe's (TJ's) they offer most things under their own Fresh & Easy label, but also have brand named products. The selection seems pretty logical and they merely offer a smaller selection. For instance, there might be 4-6 types of breakfast cereal in medium sized boxes instead of an entire aisle of 200 selections in 3 different sized boxes. I like that. Likewise, they might offer 4-5 cuts of beef instead of the entire selection and the sizes are typically proportioned for 2-3 servings. To me, it means that when I'm not smoking an entire butt, 4 racks of ribs, a couple chickens etc., I can buy and cook excellent food here at the house for Mrs. Nonny without having too much in the way of leftovers. I suspect that would also really appeal to folk doing a week or two in a timeshare. -- Nonny Nonnymus Never believe a person who is Drunk, Horny or Running for Office. |
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On May 30, 11:47 am, Nonnymus wrote:
This is similar to a post I made to another forum. I am repeating it here, instead of cross posting. It applies to the folk living in the SW part of the country, though the expansion plans of the new chain are to eventually hit all major markets, I've read. Hey Nonny, Please e mail me off list, I'd like to ask you a few questions. kingofkurtopia (at) gmail dot com Thanks, Kurt |
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Nonnymus wrote:
This is similar to a post I made to another forum. I am repeating it here, instead of cross posting. It applies to the folk living in the SW part of the country, though the expansion plans of the new chain are to eventually hit all major markets, I've read. ------------------------------------------ Some of you who live in Las Vegas, or might be visiting in a timeshare where you do a little cooking, might be interested in our local Fresh & Easy grocery stores. They're an experimental subsidiary of the largest European supermarket chain, and are trying to develop stores in CA, NV and AZ that combine the convenience of a mini mart with the ready to cook food of a grocery store's deli and the "natural" foods concept of TJ's or Whole Foods. The prices I've seen are in the range of TJ's and far less than Whole Foods. They date everything, so you can be reasonably assured that the food is within its shelf life. Mrs. Nonny and I usually have meals for just ourselves or one other, so we prefer smaller portions of food that I don't have to screw around a long time preparing. For instance, I scored two 6-oz. fresh, never frozen, albacore tuna steaks for dinner tonight for $6.99/# and a pound of fresh cut fruit salad for about $2.50. It's not just about the price, but also the convenience. The stores are smaller than even the smallest Albertson's or Smith's, but much larger than a "Quickie Mart," while offering a fine selection of most foods. I posted here before about my love for the Motherlode cake sold at Claim Jumper's. Well, Fresh & Easy has a prepared dessert section that has some really incredible foods like sp tres leches or dulce de leche in individual servings, tira misu and several other offerings. They're fresh, dated and in just the right size for one or two people. Like many of the Fresh & Easy prepared items, they're prepared at a commissary and delivered fresh daily to the stores, I suspect. The size of the stores is just right, IMHO. The layout still "sucks" as my kids say, in that you have to go clear to the back of the store to get milk and other most frequently needed items. However, the size means that the back of the store is more like the front of an Albertson's or Smith's, and you don't need to crawl over lawn furniture, grills, Christmas decorations and pool supplies to get a dozen eggs a quarter of a mile back in the store. I like that. The stores are not intended to replace the mega grocery stores, but to provide an easy place to grab what you probably will need for a good supper, while being assured that it's both fresh and probably not chemically enhanced. Sam's Club cut the heart out of many smaller retailers by mass purchases and no frill sales of the most commonly purchased items. For instance, Sam's or Costco buy the most popular "Chevrolet" type of washers, dryers and refrigerators, leaving just the very bottom and top ends of the lines for the local merchants to sell competitively. Fresh & Easy seems to be going after the big chains with their pared down selection of the most commonly desired foods in the most commonly desired sizes of packaging. They are also obviously targeting Trader Joe, Whole Foods and similar "natural" food stores with similar items at lower prices than most of the "natural" foodstores. Like Trader Joe's (TJ's) they offer most things under their own Fresh & Easy label, but also have brand named products. The selection seems pretty logical and they merely offer a smaller selection. For instance, there might be 4-6 types of breakfast cereal in medium sized boxes instead of an entire aisle of 200 selections in 3 different sized boxes. I like that. Likewise, they might offer 4-5 cuts of beef instead of the entire selection and the sizes are typically proportioned for 2-3 servings. To me, it means that when I'm not smoking an entire butt, 4 racks of ribs, a couple chickens etc., I can buy and cook excellent food here at the house for Mrs. Nonny without having too much in the way of leftovers. I suspect that would also really appeal to folk doing a week or two in a timeshare. Do you think there is something to their specific sunbelt target market, in that there are more retired and empty nest type families in that area? That would mean more people with above average tastes and preferences, more disposable income, and smaller households which benefit the most from this type of marketing. I would expect they might also do very well in Florida. But in areas like KC, the suburban households and demographic areas which could best support somewhat upscale (even if less expensive than Whole Foods, for example) stores tend to be younger and larger families than the averages in the sunbelt. While Overland Park can support a larger than average Whole Foods store, from the detailed description you've given I would expect it to also have less appeal than Whole Foods for such families. However as they become firmly entrenched in a particular market niche in the southwest they may be able to make adjustments to compete in other parts of the country. In any case its sure an interesting concept. Someone has obviously done their homework. Now if you could just get their barbecue concession....... MartyB in KC |
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Nunya Bidnits wrote:
Do you think there is something to their specific sunbelt target market, in that there are more retired and empty nest type families in that area? That would mean more people with above average tastes and preferences, more disposable income, and smaller households which benefit the most from this type of marketing. I would expect they might also do very well in Florida. My first thought was that they were looking for the more rapidly growing areas. . . but then that would also fit into your excellent analysis above. The growth areas seem to attract the retirees and young couples hustling with their careers, so it makes sense. But in areas like KC, the suburban households and demographic areas which could best support somewhat upscale (even if less expensive than Whole Foods, for example) stores tend to be younger and larger families than the averages in the sunbelt. While Overland Park can support a larger than average Whole Foods store, from the detailed description you've given I would expect it to also have less appeal than Whole Foods for such families. However as they become firmly entrenched in a particular market niche in the southwest they may be able to make adjustments to compete in other parts of the country. In any case its sure an interesting concept. Someone has obviously done their homework. Now if you could just get their barbecue concession....... I don't know where they're headed next. The newspaper reports that their sales are not consistent with their business plan, but then I think that their concept is one you need to warm up to. If they survive for a while, I suspect we'll see them thrive and grow. -- Nonny Nonnymus Never believe a person who is Drunk, Horny or Running for Office. |