On 28-Apr-2008, Steve Calvin wrote:

Nunya Bidnits wrote:
skeeter wrote:
I saw a friend of mine purchasing a bag of royal oak natural lump,
with a bottle of charcoal starting fluid. I told her about using a
chimney starter, and she said "I have one". I explained to her how
using newspaper (sprayed with PAM, then rolled and twisted and put
under her charcoal starter like a donut) will prevent her yummy BBQ
food from tasting like Whiting Indiana. She listened to me and said
newspaper and pam is a lot cheaper than the starter fluid, and
understood also that I was helping her food remain healthy.

1 down, thousands to go, but at least I saved 1 BBQer and her family.

Why do you need to spray it with Pam? The newspaper will start the
charcoal
without any help as long as you don't wad it in there too tight.

MartyB in KC


Well, I guess either my posts aren't getting out or I've been
"blacklisted" on the group for reasons I don't understand. As I asked
the same question a while earlier. It's been happening a lot lately so
I'll assume it's option "B".

If someone can explain what I did to apparently get plonked by so many,
I'd appreciate it. Honestly.

You're coming in here loud and clear Steve.

--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

On Apr 29, 7:54 am, Nick Cramer wrote:
"Brick" wrote:
On 28-Apr-2008, skeeter wrote:
[ . . . ]
I don't have newspaper available anymore, so I use other means. The
crap they use for direct mail advertising doesn't burn very well.

Old phone books do work well, don't they!

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They
are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

I actually cheat - my chargriller duo has a side burner. 5 minutes on
that and it's flaming to go!
Dump that into the side firebox, another load on top of that, and in
30 minutes I have enough smoke
to set off an alarm.

On 29-Apr-2008, Nick Cramer wrote:

"Brick" wrote:
On 28-Apr-2008, skeeter wrote:
[ . . . ]
I don't have newspaper available anymore, so I use other means. The
crap they use for direct mail advertising doesn't burn very well.

Old phone books do work well, don't they!

--
Nick.

I don't know. I've been throwing them into the recycle bin. I'll try it next

time since I'm all out of parafin sticks.

--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

On Apr 29, 9:25 am, "Brick" wrote:
On 29-Apr-2008, Nick Cramer wrote:

"Brick" wrote:
On 28-Apr-2008, skeeter wrote:
[ . . . ]
I don't have newspaper available anymore, so I use other means. The
crap they use for direct mail advertising doesn't burn very well.

Old phone books do work well, don't they!

--
Nick.

I don't know. I've been throwing them into the recycle bin. I'll try it next

time since I'm all out of parafin sticks.

--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

my only complaint is that paper turns to charred little flakes of
embers and fly everywhere.

On Apr 28, 7:30*pm, Walt Fles wrote:
Nunya Bidnits wrote:
Why do you need to spray it with Pam? The newspaper will start the charcoal
without any help as long as you don't wad it in there too tight.

MartyB in KC

It helps the newspaper burn slower.

I would think that it makes the newspaper burn hotter, as well as
longer. I've stopped using newspaper, myself. Wax paper is the way to
go! Just make a big wad and put it under your charcoal chimney, light
it, and go about your business. In 15 minutes, you've got fire. Easy,
cheap, burns clean, and leaves very little ash.

Stan Marks

Brick wrote:
On 28-Apr-2008, skeeter wrote:

I saw a friend of mine purchasing a bag of royal oak natural lump,
with a bottle of charcoal starting fluid. I told her about using a
chimney starter, and she said "I have one". I explained to her how
using newspaper (sprayed with PAM, then rolled and twisted and put
under her charcoal starter like a donut) will prevent her yummy BBQ
food from tasting like Whiting Indiana. She listened to me and said
newspaper and pam is a lot cheaper than the starter fluid, and
understood also that I was helping her food remain healthy.

1 down, thousands to go, but at least I saved 1 BBQer and her family.

Good on ya Skeeter, but newspaper without the Pam is even cheaper.
And for us dedicated cheapskates a onetime investment in an oil
spritzer (I use a 'Misto') loaded with Canola oil obviates the need
for any expensive Pam. (Pam 'regular' is Canola oil).

I don't have newspaper available anymore, so I use other means. The
crap they use for direct mail advertising doesn't burn very well.

I work double duty. After the grill heats up, I was spraying canola oil
on a
cloth, then using it to lube the racks. (As taught by Alton Brown)

Now I oil up a wad of paper towels, lube the racks, and then stuff the
oily paper into the chimney, to be used next time to light the charcoal.

" wrote:

On Apr 28, 7:44 pm, Sqwertz wrote:

I've always used lighter fluid and have never had a lighter fluid
taste.

Of course I always take off the body and lid of the R2D2 before
lighting it, and let it burn for 10-15 minutes.

You might give it a whirl. There is a definite taste difference,

No, there isn't. I used to use a chimney, and often use it at work
and school (where we have bigger smokers for groups), and there is
NO taste of lighter fluid.

People who use a lot of lighter fluid, squirt down the sides and
bottom of their smoker/firepan, and don't let it burn off completely
and vented may have this problem, but I sure don't.

-sw

Nick Cramer wrote:
"Nunya Bidnits" wrote:
skeeter wrote:
I saw a friend of mine purchasing a bag of royal oak natural lump,
with a bottle of charcoal starting fluid. I told her about using a
chimney starter, and she said "I have one". I explained to her how
using newspaper (sprayed with PAM, then rolled and twisted and put
under her charcoal starter like a donut) will prevent her yummy BBQ
food from tasting like Whiting Indiana. She listened to me and said
newspaper and pam is a lot cheaper than the starter fluid, and
understood also that I was helping her food remain healthy.

1 down, thousands to go, but at least I saved 1 BBQer and her family.
Why do you need to spray it with Pam? The newspaper will start the
charcoal without any help as long as you don't wad it in there too tight.

I dump Jack Daniels on the lump (and paper) before starting the chimney.


BLASPHEME!!!

--
Dave T.


"Your attitude serves as a lens through which you see life, and it's
best when that lens is focused on the positive possibilities." - Ralph
Marston

"skeeter" wrote in message
...
On Apr 29, 7:54 am, Nick Cramer wrote:
"Brick" wrote:
On 28-Apr-2008, skeeter wrote:
[ . . . ]
I don't have newspaper available anymore, so I use other means. The
crap they use for direct mail advertising doesn't burn very well.

Old phone books do work well, don't they!

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
They
are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

I actually cheat - my chargriller duo has a side burner. 5 minutes on
that and it's flaming to go!
Dump that into the side firebox, another load on top of that, and in
30 minutes I have enough smoke
to set off an alarm.


I used to do the oiled paper towel from preping the grill, but I too
now have the side burner on the CharGriller and it works perfectly.

skeeter wrote:
On Apr 29, 9:25 am, "Brick" wrote:
On 29-Apr-2008, Nick Cramer wrote:
"Brick" wrote:
On 28-Apr-2008, skeeter wrote:
[ . . . ]
my only complaint is that paper turns to charred little flakes of
embers and fly everywhere.

I set my chimney on the bottom grate in the firebox, add the crumpled
paper, then lump, douse with JD and light at the bottom. The only sparks
are from lump dust. They never fly more than a foot or so, if that.

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They
are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

"Nick Cramer" wrote
I set my chimney on the bottom grate in the firebox, add the crumpled
paper, then lump, douse with JD and light at the bottom. The only sparks
are from lump dust. They never fly more than a foot or so, if that.

Sounds like alcohol abuse, if you ask me.

BOB

" BOB" wrote:
"Nick Cramer" wrote
I set my chimney on the bottom grate in the firebox, add the crumpled
paper, then lump, douse with JD and light at the bottom. The only
sparks are from lump dust. They never fly more than a foot or so, if
that.

Sounds like alcohol abuse, if you ask me.

I did it. Take me away. holding hands behind back to be cuffed

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They
are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
...
"Nunya Bidnits" wrote:
skeeter wrote:
I saw a friend of mine purchasing a bag of royal oak natural lump,
with a bottle of charcoal starting fluid. I told her about using a
chimney starter, and she said "I have one". I explained to her how
using newspaper (sprayed with PAM, then rolled and twisted and put
under her charcoal starter like a donut) will prevent her yummy BBQ
food from tasting like Whiting Indiana. She listened to me and said
newspaper and pam is a lot cheaper than the starter fluid, and
understood also that I was helping her food remain healthy.

1 down, thousands to go, but at least I saved 1 BBQer and her family.

Why do you need to spray it with Pam? The newspaper will start the
charcoal without any help as long as you don't wad it in there too tight.

I dump Jack Daniels on the lump (and paper) before starting the chimney.

I dump a little Jack Daniels down the barbequer before starting the chimney
and use vegatable oil on the newspaper. Just sayin'.


--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
They
are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

"Michael Boyd" wrote:
"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
"Nunya Bidnits" wrote:
skeeter wrote:
[ . . . ]
I dump Jack Daniels on the lump (and paper) before starting the
chimney.

I dump a little Jack Daniels down the barbequer before starting the
chimney and use vegatable oil on the newspaper. Just sayin'.

My kid brother was a loyal JD fan for years. I finally convinced him to try
a _real_ Bourbon. He's been on Wild Turkey ever since! Just sayin'. ;-)

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They
are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
...

My kid brother was a loyal JD fan for years. I finally convinced him to
try
a _real_ Bourbon. He's been on Wild Turkey ever since! Just sayin'. ;-)
--
Anyone who tries George Dickel or Woodford Reserve will not be disappointed.
--
ivan