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Where to get gas cartridge refilled?



 
 
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Old 18-04-2008, 02:48 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue,rec.food.cooking,alt.cooking-chat,rec.outdoors.camping
Romanise
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Default Where to get gas cartridge refilled?

Need a Gas Stove, Electric hotplates are not suitable for some of
Indian Cooking.

Thinking to buy a signle burner stove that comes with 2 cartridges
( while one is being used other can get refilled)

Question is where to get it refilled.

Went to Halfords which sells cartridges, but could not tell where to
get a cartridge refilled.

http://www.lidl.co.uk/uk/home.nsf/pa...I36NEJ004R3ED4

that is what I am thinking to buy.

Thanks.
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Old 18-04-2008, 04:13 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue,rec.food.cooking,alt.cooking-chat,rec.outdoors.camping
pumper hinkle
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Default Where to get gas cartridge refilled?

I believe these cartridges are only available disposable.

I have one of these and am satisfied with it, It has the benefit that I
can use larger gas cylinders with it as well as the bulk propane cylinders.

http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colem...ategoryid=2010

Ralph

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Old 18-04-2008, 08:22 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue,rec.food.cooking,alt.cooking-chat,rec.outdoors.camping
y_p_w
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Default Where to get gas cartridge refilled?

On Apr 18, 6:48 am, Romanise wrote:
Need a Gas Stove, Electric hotplates are not suitable for some of
Indian Cooking.

Thinking to buy a signle burner stove that comes with 2 cartridges
( while one is being used other can get refilled)

Question is where to get it refilled.


I don't think those cartridges can be refilled even if you wanted to
do so. From the photo, it appears as if there's no valve on the
cartridge. I'm guessing the stove punctures then seals the
cartridge. Then you have to leave the cartridge attached to the stove
until the gas is depleted.

Went to Halfords which sells cartridges, but could not tell where to
get a cartridge refilled.

http://www.lidl.co.uk/uk/home.nsf/pa...Single_Burner_...

that is what I am thinking to buy.


Well - in the United States the Department of Transportation has
regulations pertaining to the refill of canisters only approved for
disposable use.

As was suggested, you might be better off with a propane device if you
can find it. Standard Coleman-style steel propane canisters can't
legally be refilled in most countries, but there are adapters that
allow large refillable propane canisters to be used. The standard
canisters are typically larger and less expensive than butane. They
also have considerably better performance in cold weather. Their main
drawback is that they require heavier containers.

It also occurs to me that Coleman-style propane isn't easily available
in the UK or most of Europe. I looked at the Coleman Europe website,
and all their gas-powered devices seem to use Lindal-valve propane/
butane/isobutane blended fuel and not 100% propane.

http://www.coleman-eur.com

I've heard of people trying to refill Lindal-valve style cartridges
with 100% butane, but it seems really risky not to mention illegal.

Another alternative is the Korean-made gas burner using standard
butane cartridges. These look like spray cans until you remove the
cap. I found this at Amazon.co.uk. The cartridges tend to be really
cheap compared to dedicated camping-style gas cartridges.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/PORTABLE-CAM.../dp/B00158GSW0
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Old 18-04-2008, 11:14 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue,rec.food.cooking,alt.cooking-chat,rec.outdoors.camping
Shawn Martin[_8_]
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Default Where to get gas cartridge refilled?

y_p_w wrote:
On Apr 18, 6:48 am, Romanise wrote:
Need a Gas Stove, Electric hotplates are not suitable for some of
Indian Cooking.

Thinking to buy a single burner stove that comes with 2 cartridges
( while one is being used other can get refilled)

Question is where to get it refilled.


I don't think those cartridges can be refilled even if you wanted to
do so. From the photo, it appears as if there's no valve on the
cartridge. I'm guessing the stove punctures then seals the
cartridge. Then you have to leave the cartridge attached to the stove
until the gas is depleted.

Went to Halfords which sells cartridges, but could not tell where to
get a cartridge refilled.

http://www.lidl.co.uk/uk/home.nsf/pa...Single_Burner_...

that is what I am thinking to buy.


Well - in the United States the Department of Transportation has
regulations pertaining to the refill of canisters only approved for
disposable use.

As was suggested, you might be better off with a propane device if you
can find it. Standard Coleman-style steel propane canisters can't
legally be refilled in most countries, but there are adapters that
allow large refillable propane canisters to be used. The standard
canisters are typically larger and less expensive than butane. They
also have considerably better performance in cold weather. Their main
drawback is that they require heavier containers.

It also occurs to me that Coleman-style propane isn't easily available
in the UK or most of Europe. I looked at the Coleman Europe website,
and all their gas-powered devices seem to use Lindal-valve propane/
butane/isobutane blended fuel and not 100% propane.

http://www.coleman-eur.com

I've heard of people trying to refill Lindal-valve style cartridges
with 100% butane, but it seems really risky not to mention illegal.

Another alternative is the Korean-made gas burner using standard
butane cartridges. These look like spray cans until you remove the
cap. I found this at Amazon.co.uk. The cartridges tend to be really
cheap compared to dedicated camping-style gas cartridges.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/PORTABLE-CAM.../dp/B00158GSW0


Any camping store here in the states will have replacement cartridges.

YOW is correct, those are disposable, and not refillable (Easily or
legally).

I can vouch for the stove he linked to. You can find these easily at any
shop which caters to the recreational
boating crowd, as they are popular for use on small craft.


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Old 19-04-2008, 01:59 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue,rec.food.cooking,alt.cooking-chat,rec.outdoors.camping
y_p_w
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Default Where to get gas cartridge refilled?

On Apr 18, 3:14 pm, "Shawn Martin" shawnrmar...@no-
spam.windstream.net wrote:
wrote:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/PORTABLE-CAM...CANISTERS/dp/B...


Any camping store here in the states will have replacement cartridges.

YOW is correct, those are disposable, and not refillable (Easily or
legally).

I can vouch for the stove he linked to. You can find these easily at any
shop which caters to the recreational
boating crowd, as they are popular for use on small craft.


The one's I've seen are almost universally made in Korea (even the
ones marketed by Target Stores) and have a pretty standard cartridge
design; they do warn to only use a specific brand of fuel, but that's
usually not all that important. I find a lot of these available at
East Asian supermarkets sold near the cookware and rice cookers. I
used to work near a local market where the owners were Korean, and
they had one model of these stoves available next to the charcoal,
lighter fluid, and firewood.

The original poster seems to be based in the UK, so a lot of the
recommendations probably have to be based around what's available
there. I found that there are refillable LPG tanks available there
(similar to US propane tanks) for gas grills and motorhomes/RVs. I
know in the US Century Tool has an adapter to allow the use of
multiple Coleman-style canister devices off of a single tank, but that
kind of device may not be common in the UK. I don't think I go
camping often enough to justify one of those, and the standard Coleman
bottles are cheap.

I've heard of all sorts of ways to get portable Bernzomatic propane
canisters to work with different devices. Not refillable, but cheap
with good performance in cold weather. I don't know how safe they
would be though.
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Old 20-04-2008, 04:02 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue,rec.food.cooking,alt.cooking-chat,rec.outdoors.camping
Romanise
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Default Where to get gas cartridge refilled?

On Apr 19, 1:59 am, y_p_w wrote:
On Apr 18, 3:14 pm, "Shawn Martin" shawnrmar...@no-

spam.windstream.net wrote:
wrote:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/PORTABLE-CAM...CANISTERS/dp/B...


Any camping store here in the states will have replacement cartridges.


YOW is correct, those are disposable, and not refillable (Easily or
legally).


I can vouch for the stove he linked to. You can find these easily at any
shop which caters to the recreational
boating crowd, as they are popular for use on small craft.


The one's I've seen are almost universally made in Korea (even the
ones marketed by Target Stores) and have a pretty standard cartridge
design; they do warn to only use a specific brand of fuel, but that's
usually not all that important. I find a lot of these available at
East Asian supermarkets sold near the cookware and rice cookers. I
used to work near a local market where the owners were Korean, and
they had one model of these stoves available next to the charcoal,
lighter fluid, and firewood.

The original poster seems to be based in the UK, so a lot of the
recommendations probably have to be based around what's available
there. I found that there are refillable LPG tanks available there
(similar to US propane tanks) forgasgrills and motorhomes/RVs. I
know in the US Century Tool has an adapter to allow the use of
multiple Coleman-style canister devices off of a single tank, but that
kind of device may not be common in the UK. I don't think I go
camping often enough to justify one of those, and the standard Coleman
bottles are cheap.

I've heard of all sorts of ways to get portable Bernzomatic propane
canisters to work with different devices. Not refillable, but cheap
with good performance in cold weather. I don't know how safe they
would be though.


I thank every one in helping me decide, that is to forget the idea.

My need is inside the house 9a flat). What LIDL store is going to sell
gave a look of tiny LPG Cylinder that we have been using for decades
for inside the house cooking.

For almost two decades now LPG is being used to run automobiles and
quite a few petrol pumps there has LPG refilling facility.

Poor city dwellers depend on paraffin/kerosene/kerosine cooking where
untill seveties stoves looked like
http://www.academy.com/index.php?pag...224-00660-3700
where liquid is pressurised and thrown onto hot metal ring-plate.
There used to be accidents when tank will burst. That of course gave
good excuse sometimes to get rid of a dislike daughter in law for the
mother in law Safer stoves were invented which instead of pressure
used wicks.

It is mainly the bajra (http://www.google.co.uk/search?
hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-
GBfficial&hs=viv&pwst=1&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&c t=result&cd=1&q=bajra&spell=1)
bread that requires me to do lot of gymnastics with my Electric
Hotplate.

Anyways, thanks again and regards.

D M Joshi
www.dmjoshi.org
 




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