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On 26-Mar-2008, Nonnymus wrote:

2fatbbq wrote:

Don't even want to know how much is 'invested' in this hobby!!!\
Buzz

It sure isn't about money here at the Nonnyhouse. It's about food,
company and pleasure.

--
Nonny

Ditto what Nonny said. It's all about food and company. At my house
it ain't about contests and/or braggin rights, it's all about who wants
to bring some beer and sides and eat some of Brick's 'Q'.

While some may say that we have taken this competition thing a bit too
seriously but it really seems when a bunch of guys start hanging doing the
same thing there is the quest to be best--at the gun range or the golf
course but do agree in the backyard it is just about friendships
Buzz

In article , Dave T. says...

As a youngster in the USMC I continued the outdoor cooking but it was
usually quick and hot. The only fuel I had was C-4, but if I rationed it
well I could get a water buffalo steak seared.

When I was in the US Army, I was stationed in Panama. We had a nice adjustable
grill at a private beach. The guys that said they could BBQ would make these
roaring fires, burn the meat (steaks, chicken, ribs, etc) and leave it raw on
the inside. Really crappy food.

I finally got PO'd enough and took over the grilling. They kept telling me not
to let the flames burn down to coals. I ignored them. I started putting meat on
their plates that was actually edible. It wasn't burnt on the outside, and I had
varying degrees of doneness for the beef.

Then whenever anyone wanted to go to the beach for a BBQ, I got invited to cook.
I didn't have to buy anything, and the beer was free. 8^) A few of the guys
would ask me questions about grilling, but most remained oblivious.

The VPs at my company like to take charge of the grill at the company picnic.
They don't know what they are doing, either. There is a co-worker of mine that
really knows BBQ, and he and I just shake our heads at the crap they serve while
cheering the flames.

My co-worker and I just let them do their thing.

Mark

Mark Filice wrote:
In article , Dave T. says...
As a youngster in the USMC I continued the outdoor cooking but it was
usually quick and hot. The only fuel I had was C-4, but if I rationed it
well I could get a water buffalo steak seared.

When I was in the US Army, I was stationed in Panama. We had a nice adjustable
grill at a private beach. The guys that said they could BBQ would make these
roaring fires, burn the meat (steaks, chicken, ribs, etc) and leave it raw on
the inside. Really crappy food.

(snip a little)

Personal taste is a basic human right. We all like what we like. What
you said (as it relates to steak) is exactly what I love. A good hot
fire, a quick sear, a certain amount of char around the edges and very
rare in the middle. Flavor up with favorite spices, and eat the moo.
Ummmm, yummeee. IMHO, a Rib eye that doesn't bleed is a ruined piece of
meat. My experience in Nam was that if you were able to make water
buffalo edible, you did a damn good job. d

Private beach? (looks at ground and shakes head) I was at a private
beach for awhile. I think they called it 29 palms. (;@)

--
Dave T.

bbq wrote:

Mark Filice wrote:



The VPs at my company like to take charge of the grill at the
company picnic. They don't know what they are doing, either. There
is a co-worker of mine that really knows BBQ, and he and I just
shake our heads at the crap they serve while cheering the flames.

My co-worker and I just let them do their thing.


It is considered polite to let VP's be stupid, especially at company
picnics !!!

Why should picnics be different than any other time?

I should forward this to My Friend the Vice-President. It wasn't that
long ago that he was a human being, so he might get a kick out if.




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

Mark Filice wrote:



The VPs at my company like to take charge of the grill at the company picnic.
They don't know what they are doing, either. There is a co-worker of mine that
really knows BBQ, and he and I just shake our heads at the crap they serve while
cheering the flames.

My co-worker and I just let them do their thing.



It is considered polite to let VP's be stupid, especially at company
picnics !!!

BBQ

Dave T. wrote:

Private beach? (looks at ground and shakes head) I was at a private
beach for awhile. I think they called it 29 palms. (;@)

ROTFLOL!!! Lotsa beach and no water to mess up the sand.

--
Dave
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."

Nunya Bidnits wrote:
Nonnymus wrote:
Nunya Bidnits wrote:
Nonnymus wrote:

I'd light Kingsford in a
home made chimney using the KC Star or Times, and cook our
hamburgers right outside the kitchen window.
And yet you bag on the KC Star. See how you are?
grin The liberal newspaper didn't misflavor the food too much.

The Star? Liberal? You've been gone a while!

Don't go there with me, I am one a them that might toss dubya into Abu
Graib. LOL!



Gosh, Marty, I departed KC almost 40 years ago. As a student at UMKC,
and at my folk's house, we'd get the Times and Star. The Times was more
liberal back then, as i recall, than the Star. When I was a kid, my best
friend's dad had a lot of political ties to KC. One of his friends was
with the Star or Times, back then. I believe the name was Hall Collison
or something similar. I recall being at Mr. Collision's house just S.
of the Plaza, several times during the late 50's and early 60's, but
that's all. When we'd come away, all I'd hear on the ride back to
Marshall was how great democrats were. Since my own parents were
strongly entrenched in the democrat party, it was a lot of fun.

--
Nonny

Nonnymus
A penny saved is obviously a
government oversight.

Mark Filice wrote:


When I was in the US Army, I was stationed in Panama. We had a nice adjustable
grill at a private beach. The guys that said they could BBQ would make these
roaring fires, burn the meat (steaks, chicken, ribs, etc) and leave it raw on
the inside. Really crappy food.


Mark, this is the preferred technique here at my home for steaks and
burgers. Naturally, poultry is cooked through much gentler.

--
Nonny

Nonnymus
A penny saved is obviously a
government oversight.

Default User wrote:
bbq wrote:

Mark Filice wrote:


The VPs at my company like to take charge of the grill at the
company picnic. They don't know what they are doing, either. There
is a co-worker of mine that really knows BBQ, and he and I just
shake our heads at the crap they serve while cheering the flames.

Ahhh, yes. The officers are always stupid and the rank and file far
more intelligent, aren't they?

--
Nonny

Nonnymus
A penny saved is obviously a
government oversight.

Nonnymus wrote:

We went to UMKC, living in Tredway Hall at 5401 Brookside in the late
1960's. Being students, Mrs. Nonny and I almost never ate out back
then. When we did, we'd celebrate at Kona Kai on Broadway, Gate's or
Winstead's.

Kona Kai is toast. Gates BBQ, all over the place. Winsteads, great burgers
and chocolate malts, several strong locations including still on the
Plaza.But no Sidney's, no Nu-Way, no Rob-Roy, no Smaks. All toast.

Treadway Hall.... it has just been gutted, rebuilt, and added on to to make
semi-luxury condos out of the old "married student dorm". Didn't see anyone
cooking out there (barbecue content).

I went to UMKC early 70s. Musta just missed you!

MartyB in KC

Nunya Bidnits wrote:
Nonnymus wrote:

We went to UMKC, living in Tredway Hall at 5401 Brookside in the late
1960's. Being students, Mrs. Nonny and I almost never ate out back
then. When we did, we'd celebrate at Kona Kai on Broadway, Gate's or
Winstead's.

Kona Kai is toast. Gates BBQ, all over the place. Winsteads, great burgers
and chocolate malts, several strong locations including still on the
Plaza.But no Sidney's, no Nu-Way, no Rob-Roy, no Smaks. All toast.

Treadway Hall.... it has just been gutted, rebuilt, and added on to to make
semi-luxury condos out of the old "married student dorm". Didn't see anyone
cooking out there (barbecue content).

I went to UMKC early 70s. Musta just missed you!


I got tired of the broke student routine, so I did college on an
accelerated basis, graduating in 3 years. Mrs. Nonny was a St. Luke's
graduate, and immediately returned as a teacher there. The culture
shock was incredible- going from starving students to two good paychecks
made it all worthwhile. grin

The weird part was visiting Tredway Hall during the conversion. We had
the (grown and married) kids with us to show them KC for the first time
and show them what good BBQ was. Tredway was gutted when we drove to
it. I saw exterior rigid conduit I'd put up for outside lighting now
rusted, twisted and clearly out of service. In my own mind, everything
had been still new there, but I got a dose of reality. . . and aging.

Nonny


--
Nonny

Nonnymus
A penny saved is obviously a
government oversight.

bbq wrote:


step 7 and 8 were the key to my education also, and I'm still learning ;-)

jOhN

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:14:39 GMT, "Nunya Bidnits"
wrote:

(re _Smoke and Spice_)
However I highly recommend the book, and you would like it in particular
because it delves into history and people of significant areas in barbecue
history, including KC.

http://www.amazon.com/Smoke-Spice-Ba...ng/dp/15583206
1X

I'd read about that book numerous times here in AFB, but never ran
across a copy--but my ever-resourceful gal friend knew I wanted it, so
that was one of my BD gifts last year. *EXCELLENT* book, even if one
just wants to read about Q. (can't imagine why, but it's possible)

"Every single religion that has a monotheistic god
winds up persecuting someone else."
-Philip Pullman
--
-denny-
(not as curmudgeonly as I useta be)

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:23:44 GMT, "Nunya Bidnits"
wrote:

Don't go there with me, I am one a them that might toss dubya into Abu
Graib. LOL!

Too good for the lying POS. ('course Cheney's worse)

"Every single religion that has a monotheistic god
winds up persecuting someone else."
-Philip Pullman
--
-denny-
(not as curmudgeonly as I useta be)

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:05:11 -0700, Nonnymus wrote:

Default User wrote:
bbq wrote:

Mark Filice wrote:


The VPs at my company like to take charge of the grill at the
company picnic. They don't know what they are doing, either. There
is a co-worker of mine that really knows BBQ, and he and I just
shake our heads at the crap they serve while cheering the flames.

Ahhh, yes. The officers are always stupid and the rank and file far
more intelligent, aren't they?

Unfortunately, the phenomenon Mark F writes about is far too
common--someone achieves a reasonable amount of success at FITB, and
then believes him(her)self to be knowledgeable about everything. IME,
that's very rarely true.

Also, in the above instance, the rank and file often still remember
that they don't know it all.

"Every single religion that has a monotheistic god
winds up persecuting someone else."
-Philip Pullman
--
-denny-
(not as curmudgeonly as I useta be)