Seems like it gives the Talia a run for its money..

See:

http://www.alcoa.com/reynoldskitchen...ac/en/home.asp


Bruce

"Bruce K." wrote in message
...
Seems like it gives the Talia a run for its money..

See:

http://www.alcoa.com/reynoldskitchen...ac/en/home.asp


Bruce

Seems like a pretty handy/convenient approach.

But...

Are the reynolds bags safe to boil? ie "boil in the bag" type? Thats a big
one for me personally. Also I'd be somewhat concerned about being limited
to bags only. I like being able to make any size bag I need from a long
roll.

Curing loins for ham/bacon, storing salmon fillets, etc.... all require
long bags.

Matt

"Matt" wrote in message
t...
"Bruce K." wrote in message
...
Seems like it gives the Talia a run for its money..

See:

http://www.alcoa.com/reynoldskitchen...ac/en/home.asp


Bruce

Seems like a pretty handy/convenient approach.

But...

Are the reynolds bags safe to boil? ie "boil in the bag" type? Thats a
big one for me personally. Also I'd be somewhat concerned about being
limited to bags only. I like being able to make any size bag I need from
a long roll.

Curing loins for ham/bacon, storing salmon fillets, etc.... all require
long bags.

Matt


I have. Some points:

The batteries that come with it are weak, making it difficult to start the
draw down; Buy some duracells right off.

You can boil the bags, but don't kid yourself about reusing bags. You can
re vaccum them after removing some of the product, but you will never get
them clean ehough to re use with another food item.

They can - and will loose their seal in the freezer. Not good for long term
storage. They do work well in the freezer for a week or so.

This gadget does have a place in my kitchen; but here is my go-to unit for
the long haul.

http://www.sorbentsystems.com/sinbosealer.html

On Feb 6, 9:37*am, "Shawn Martin" shawnrmar...@no-
spam.windstream.net wrote:

This gadget does have a place in my kitchen; but here is my go-to unit for
the long haul.

http://www.sorbentsystems.com/sinbosealer.html- Hide quoted text -

Hi, Shawn. I have looked at these before as a recommendation from
another site. I am finally getting to the end of my old Tilia's
life. After 7 years of use and about a million sealed bags, I am
looking for something better at vacuum sealing, and something that
uses more affordable consumables.

This machine seems to fit the bill. $100 for the machine is about the
retail price for the Tilia I bought. Bags for the sorbent machine are
half what I am paying for the Tilia knockoffs I buy from a butcher in
Dallas.

So how long have you had it? Is the snorkel part hard to master?

Most important, how does it work with wet stuff? The downside to the
Tilia I have is that if you want to save anything wet or juicy it will
not seal properly when the liquid is in the seal bar area. You get
little voids and lose the vacuum.

And one more. Will the bags for the sorbent system work with a food
saver type machine without a snorkel?

TIA.

Robert

Bruce K. wrote:
Seems like it gives the Talia a run for its money..

See:

http://www.alcoa.com/reynoldskitchen...ac/en/home.asp


Bruce

I have tried it and I like it. I have a Tillia and I am not a happy
camper. Lately the bags have not been keeping the vacuum. I have checked
everything on it and even joined a Yahoo! group for Food Savers. I'm
saving it for next year's yard sale.

The Reynolds works just fine for my needs. I can freeze steaks without
worrying if there is any liquid in them to ruin the machine (The Food
Saver requires me to either prefreeze the meat or put pieces of paper
towel in the bag). The vacuum seal stays very well in the Reynolds bags,
too.

As for BBQ, we don't get any leftovers as we always have a gang to feed
when we do Q, so I can't comment on that.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

In article d452bf4c-2120-4663-9da6-bd7b08c0f400
@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com, says...

And one more. Will the bags for the sorbent system work with a food
saver type machine without a snorkel?


The trick to make smooth nylon bags work with the FoodSaver is to take a
piece of the embossed side of the the FoodSaver bag material, lay it
into the mouth of the smooth bag so it spans from the vacuum chamber
into the bag, across the sealing element.

The piece of FoodSaver bag material doesn't have to be very large - 1" x
3" or so should do fine. It just provides a path for the air to get
sucked out of the smooth-sided bag. The FoodSaver bag material then
gets sealed up along with the smooth bag.

Works great. Nonymous, step in here and take another bow for coming up
with the idea.

Bob

yetanotherBob wrote:
In article d452bf4c-2120-4663-9da6-bd7b08c0f400
@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com, says...
And one more. Will the bags for the sorbent system work with a food
saver type machine without a snorkel?


The trick to make smooth nylon bags work with the FoodSaver is to take a
piece of the embossed side of the the FoodSaver bag material, lay it
into the mouth of the smooth bag so it spans from the vacuum chamber
into the bag, across the sealing element.

The piece of FoodSaver bag material doesn't have to be very large - 1" x
3" or so should do fine. It just provides a path for the air to get
sucked out of the smooth-sided bag. The FoodSaver bag material then
gets sealed up along with the smooth bag.

Works great. Nonymous, step in here and take another bow for coming up
with the idea.

blush . . . and it's a great use for the OLD bags.

BTW, this doesn't work too well with the Oliso Frisper, presumably
because the heat sealing device isn't as powerful as on the Foodsaver.
Still, I like and use our Frisper for dry things that I want to reseal,
such as pre-made ham biscuits for in the morning. I get one out and
reseal the bag with the rest.

Nonny

--
---Nonnymus---
No matter how large your boat,
the person you are talking with will
have a close friend with a larger one.
---Observation by my son

Bruce K. wrote:
Seems like it gives the Talia a run for its money..

Not even close, IMHO.
--
Dave
www.davebbq.com

wrote in message
...
On Feb 6, 9:37 am, "Shawn Martin" shawnrmar...@no-
spam.windstream.net wrote:

This gadget does have a place in my kitchen; but here is my go-to unit for
the long haul.

http://www.sorbentsystems.com/sinbosealer.html- Hide quoted text -

Hi, Shawn. I have looked at these before as a recommendation from
another site. I am finally getting to the end of my old Tilia's
life. After 7 years of use and about a million sealed bags, I am
looking for something better at vacuum sealing, and something that
uses more affordable consumables.

This machine seems to fit the bill. $100 for the machine is about the
retail price for the Tilia I bought. Bags for the sorbent machine are
half what I am paying for the Tilia knockoffs I buy from a butcher in
Dallas.

So how long have you had it? Is the snorkel part hard to master?

A couple of months

Most important, how does it work with wet stuff? The downside to the
Tilia I have is that if you want to save anything wet or juicy it will
not seal properly when the liquid is in the seal bar area. You get
little voids and lose the vacuum.

After drawing a vaccum, the gasket clamps down pretty tight and, as there is
no channels to hold moisture, it seals up real good.

And one more. Will the bags for the sorbent system work with a food
saver type machine without a snorkel?

Take a 2" by 3" section of the ribbed portion from a used tillia bag, and
insert it into the bag, flush with the mouth.
Now the tilia has a channel to evacuate the air, and the ribbed section
seals in place.
(Have never tried this, but heard about it.) If it works, let me know.

TIA.

Robert


If you want a more experienced rundown, ping Brick. He has had one for
years, and was the person who turned me onto this neat little gadget.

On 6-Feb-2008, "Shawn Martin" wrote:

"Matt" wrote in message
t...
"Bruce K." wrote in message
...
Seems like it gives the Talia a run for its money..

See:

http://www.alcoa.com/reynoldskitchen...ac/en/home.asp


Bruce

Seems like a pretty handy/convenient approach.

But...

Are the reynolds bags safe to boil? ie "boil in the bag" type? Thats a

big one for me personally. Also I'd be somewhat concerned about being
limited to bags only. I like being able to make any size bag I need
from
a long roll.

Curing loins for ham/bacon, storing salmon fillets, etc.... all require

long bags.

Matt


I have. Some points:

The batteries that come with it are weak, making it difficult to start the

draw down; Buy some duracells right off.

You can boil the bags, but don't kid yourself about reusing bags. You can

re vaccum them after removing some of the product, but you will never get
them clean ehough to re use with another food item.

They can - and will loose their seal in the freezer. Not good for long
term
storage. They do work well in the freezer for a week or so.

This gadget does have a place in my kitchen; but here is my go-to unit for

the long haul.

http://www.sorbentsystems.com/sinbosealer.html

I've been using a Sinbo VS 280 for several years. I buy my bags from
Sorbent Systems by the case and half case. I just received a case of 8 X 12
bags (1000 bags) for a delivered price of $92.18 ($0.092/bag). Compare
that with the price for anyone else's bagging material. My sealer stays on
a kitchen counter and gets used virtually everyday. I just completed bagging
a whole pork shoulder (sliced/pulled) and a rack of spares. I packed the
majority of it in single serving sizes using 6" X 8" bags which cost me
about
$0.075/bag.

http://www.sorbentsystems.com/sinbosealer.html

I have bagged whole chickens, but nothing larger then that.

I also have a food saver with attachments to evacuate mason jars. It's
handy to pack spices and breadcrumbs, but that's about all I use it for.
The bags/rolls are just too expensive for my pocketbook.

--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

On 6-Feb-2008, " wrote:

On Feb 6, 9:37*am, "Shawn Martin" shawnrmar...@no-
spam.windstream.net wrote:

This gadget does have a place in my kitchen; but here is my go-to unit
for
the long haul.

http://www.sorbentsystems.com/sinbosealer.html- Hide quoted text -

Hi, Shawn. I have looked at these before as a recommendation from
another site. I am finally getting to the end of my old Tilia's
life. After 7 years of use and about a million sealed bags, I am
looking for something better at vacuum sealing, and something that
uses more affordable consumables.

This machine seems to fit the bill. $100 for the machine is about the
retail price for the Tilia I bought. Bags for the sorbent machine are
half what I am paying for the Tilia knockoffs I buy from a butcher in
Dallas.

So how long have you had it? Is the snorkel part hard to master?

I've had mine over four years. I can't find the original purchase documents.
I had to fuss with it some at first and there was one period of time when
I had sealing problems. That turned out to be too short a sealing time.
Another second solved the problem.


Most important, how does it work with wet stuff? The downside to the
Tilia I have is that if you want to save anything wet or juicy it will
not seal properly when the liquid is in the seal bar area. You get
little voids and lose the vacuum.

It doesn't work worth a shit with wet stuff anymore then the Tilia does.
I simply fill bags with wet stuff and prefreeze before evacuating. I do
that with just about everything that will squirt juice into the snorkel. In
that regards the sinbo is more fussy then the Tilia.

And one more. Will the bags for the sorbent system work with a food
saver type machine without a snorkel?

No! The Snorkel sealer does not use channel bags. In fact it will evacuate
and seal a ziploc. But ziplocs will not hold a vacuum


TIA.

Robert

Frankly, it sounds like you want a chamber machine Robert, and so do I.
The limiting factor is the cost. The cheapest is way over a thousand
dollars.
In the meantime I'll cripple along with my Sinbo VS 280.
--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

On Feb 6, 7:53*pm, "Brick" wrote:
It doesn't work worth a shit with wet stuff anymore then the Tilia does.
I simply fill bags with wet stuff and prefreeze before evacuating.

Ahhh... the fresh breeze of honesty.


Frankly, it sounds like you want a chamber machine Robert, and so do I.
The limiting factor is the cost. The cheapest is way over a thousand
dollars.

You are spot on there. If I had kiddos at home, I might bite. But
since it is just the two of us, the $1500 "mini" chamber version I
like is just too much. I saw one a while back, and I was astonished
at two things: speed and accuracy. That bag was vacuumed and sealed
in seconds. That machine I was informed, was about $2500.

I buy anything that is on deep sale discount or is a discounted
seasonal item and take it home and cut it up and freeze it. They know
me pretty well in the butcher shop at Sam's and have for some time.
These things can save so damn much money, even for just two, it
doesn't make sense not to.

In the meantime I'll cripple along with my Sinbo VS 280.

Yeah.. but in my mind I am thinking one day, maybe I'll run across
that chamber sealer somewhere...

Hey... I believe in the Easter Bunny, too!

I am looking at the Magic Vac now, which is a semi professional
machine. I talked to a lady that has five of them and uses them in
her bakery business for a few hours a day. She has had them on
the production line for about 3 years now. They are made in Italy,
and have variable seal and vacuum times and will use just about any
kind of bag you can get. I did a lot of research on this machine and
can't seem to find anyone that complains about them. They retailed
for about $400 (in their world, anyway) and were commonly sold for
anywhere from $299 plus shipping to $349.

They are changing out their model line now, and the machine is being
closed out for $129. They are much heavier duty than the Tilia
products, but still have the same drawback of not handling wet goods
well at all.

Guess I'll see.

I bought a lot of bags from this lady as she sells them at about 30%
less than the FoodSaver bags, and they work better. They seem pretty
good, so I am hoping for the same service and quality on the vacuum
machine.

Thanks for the comments.

Robert

"Brick" wrote in message
news:ggtqj.30892$Ou1.16376@trnddc07...

On 6-Feb-2008, "Shawn Martin"
wrote:

"Matt" wrote in message
t...
"Bruce K." wrote in message
...
Seems like it gives the Talia a run for its money..

See:

http://www.alcoa.com/reynoldskitchen...ac/en/home.asp


Bruce

Seems like a pretty handy/convenient approach.

But...

Are the reynolds bags safe to boil? ie "boil in the bag" type? Thats
a

big one for me personally. Also I'd be somewhat concerned about being
limited to bags only. I like being able to make any size bag I need
from
a long roll.

Curing loins for ham/bacon, storing salmon fillets, etc.... all
require

long bags.

Matt


I have. Some points:

The batteries that come with it are weak, making it difficult to start
the

draw down; Buy some duracells right off.

You can boil the bags, but don't kid yourself about reusing bags. You
can

re vaccum them after removing some of the product, but you will never get
them clean ehough to re use with another food item.

They can - and will loose their seal in the freezer. Not good for long
term
storage. They do work well in the freezer for a week or so.

This gadget does have a place in my kitchen; but here is my go-to unit
for

the long haul.

http://www.sorbentsystems.com/sinbosealer.html

I've been using a Sinbo VS 280 for several years. I buy my bags from
Sorbent Systems by the case and half case. I just received a case of 8 X
12
bags (1000 bags) for a delivered price of $92.18 ($0.092/bag). Compare
that with the price for anyone else's bagging material. My sealer stays on
a kitchen counter and gets used virtually everyday. I just completed
bagging
a whole pork shoulder (sliced/pulled) and a rack of spares. I packed the
majority of it in single serving sizes using 6" X 8" bags which cost me
about
$0.075/bag.

http://www.sorbentsystems.com/sinbosealer.html

I have bagged whole chickens, but nothing larger then that.

I also have a food saver with attachments to evacuate mason jars. It's
handy to pack spices and breadcrumbs, but that's about all I use it for.
The bags/rolls are just too expensive for my pocketbook.

--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

Check out this unit; especially the "tab-checks" valves.
I bought a roll of these, and the hand held unit, and my Tilia went to
Goodwill.

http://www.pump-n-seal.com/info.htm

On 7-Feb-2008, " wrote:

On Feb 6, 7:53*pm, "Brick" wrote:
It doesn't work worth a shit with wet stuff anymore then the Tilia does.
I simply fill bags with wet stuff and prefreeze before evacuating.

Ahhh... the fresh breeze of honesty.


Frankly, it sounds like you want a chamber machine Robert, and so do I.
The limiting factor is the cost. The cheapest is way over a thousand
dollars.

You are spot on there. If I had kiddos at home, I might bite. But
since it is just the two of us, the $1500 "mini" chamber version I
like is just too much. I saw one a while back, and I was astonished
at two things: speed and accuracy. That bag was vacuumed and sealed
in seconds. That machine I was informed, was about $2500.

I buy anything that is on deep sale discount or is a discounted
seasonal item and take it home and cut it up and freeze it. They know
me pretty well in the butcher shop at Sam's and have for some time.
These things can save so damn much money, even for just two, it
doesn't make sense not to.

In the meantime I'll cripple along with my Sinbo VS 280.

Yeah.. but in my mind I am thinking one day, maybe I'll run across
that chamber sealer somewhere...

Hey... I believe in the Easter Bunny, too!

I am looking at the Magic Vac now, which is a semi professional
machine. I talked to a lady that has five of them and uses them in
her bakery business for a few hours a day. She has had them on
the production line for about 3 years now. They are made in Italy,
and have variable seal and vacuum times and will use just about any
kind of bag you can get. I did a lot of research on this machine and
can't seem to find anyone that complains about them. They retailed
for about $400 (in their world, anyway) and were commonly sold for
anywhere from $299 plus shipping to $349.

They are changing out their model line now, and the machine is being
closed out for $129. They are much heavier duty than the Tilia
products, but still have the same drawback of not handling wet goods
well at all.

Guess I'll see.

I bought a lot of bags from this lady as she sells them at about 30%
less than the FoodSaver bags, and they work better. They seem pretty
good, so I am hoping for the same service and quality on the vacuum
machine.

Thanks for the comments.

Robert

My FoodSaver machine is actually an early model imported from Italy.
On the bottom it's labeled F.L.A.E.M. It very closely resembles the
Magic Vac Champion displayed at this link: Vacuum time is left up to
the operator with a vacuum gauge as a guide. Sealing time is adjustable
as it is on the Sinbo VS 280 snorkel sealer.

http://www.deni.com/magicvac_1750.asp

The machine is totally functional after all these years. (Don't know how
many years.) My only complaint is not with the machine, but the price
of the bags. I just took delivery of a case of quart bags for my VS 280.
Total cost for a thousand bags delivered to my door was $92.18. At
that price, I repackage just about all of the frozen vegetables I get from
the supermarket. Everytime I open a package and use enough for the
two of us, I reseal the same bag until the next time.

I'm so used to pre-freezing products to avoid contaminating the sealer
that I don't even think about it any more. I keep a few bags in a drawer
along with my aluminum foil and cling wrap, so they're always instantly
accessible. Vacuum packing leftovers takes no more effort then putting
the same product into a ziplock.

--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

On 7-Feb-2008, "Shawn Martin" wrote:

"Brick" wrote in message
news:ggtqj.30892$Ou1.16376@trnddc07...

On 6-Feb-2008, "Shawn Martin"
wrote:

"Matt" wrote in message
t...
"Bruce K." wrote in message
...
Seems like it gives the Talia a run for its money..

See:

http://www.alcoa.com/reynoldskitchen...ac/en/home.asp


Bruce

Seems like a pretty handy/convenient approach.

But...

Are the reynolds bags safe to boil? ie "boil in the bag" type?
Thats
a

big one for me personally. Also I'd be somewhat concerned about
being
limited to bags only. I like being able to make any size bag I need
from
a long roll.

Curing loins for ham/bacon, storing salmon fillets, etc.... all
require

long bags.

Matt


I have. Some points:

The batteries that come with it are weak, making it difficult to start
the

draw down; Buy some duracells right off.

You can boil the bags, but don't kid yourself about reusing bags. You
can

re vaccum them after removing some of the product, but you will never
get
them clean ehough to re use with another food item.

They can - and will loose their seal in the freezer. Not good for long
term
storage. They do work well in the freezer for a week or so.

This gadget does have a place in my kitchen; but here is my go-to unit
for

the long haul.

http://www.sorbentsystems.com/sinbosealer.html

I've been using a Sinbo VS 280 for several years. I buy my bags from
Sorbent Systems by the case and half case. I just received a case of 8 X

12
bags (1000 bags) for a delivered price of $92.18 ($0.092/bag). Compare
that with the price for anyone else's bagging material. My sealer stays
on
a kitchen counter and gets used virtually everyday. I just completed
bagging
a whole pork shoulder (sliced/pulled) and a rack of spares. I packed the
majority of it in single serving sizes using 6" X 8" bags which cost me
about
. $0.075/bag.

http://www.sorbentsystems.com/sinbosealer.html

I have bagged whole chickens, but nothing larger then that.

I also have a food saver with attachments to evacuate mason jars. It's
handy to pack spices and breadcrumbs, but that's about all I use it for.
The bags/rolls are just too expensive for my pocketbook.

--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

Check out this unit; especially the "tab-checks" valves.
I bought a roll of these, and the hand held unit, and my Tilia went to
Goodwill.

http://www.pump-n-seal.com/info.htm

I think those Tab Checks are way more expensive then they should be.
They are more expensive then the bags I buy. And even after you get
the Tab Checks, you still have to get some kind of bags somewhere.
Ziplocks cost about the same as the bags that I buy and Ziplocks won't
hold a vacuum very long.

--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)