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Barbecue (alt.food.barbecue) Discuss barbecue and grilling--southern style "low and slow" smoking of ribs, shoulders and briskets, as well as direct heat grilling of everything from burgers to salmon to vegetables.

nother newbie NBBD question


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Old 20-01-2008, 08:20 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue
Grant Erwin
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Default nother newbie NBBD question

I am now the owner of a genuine New Braunfels Black Diamond smoker. Well,
of course, it isn't used. The shell is in good condition, as are the legs,
wheels, stack and cover. But the thing is empty. No grills, no firebox
innards, nada.

I can make stuff pretty readily, but in this case I'd hoped to see what
they started with. Hence, questions:

Is there just one layer of grill inside the smoke box? (No warming rack
up above?)

Anyone have pictures of the inside of one of these?

Thanks!

Grant Erwin
Kirkland, Washington

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Old 20-01-2008, 08:53 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue
Dave Bugg
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Default nother newbie NBBD question

Grant Erwin wrote:
I am now the owner of a genuine New Braunfels Black Diamond smoker.
Well, of course, it isn't used. The shell is in good condition, as
are the legs, wheels, stack and cover. But the thing is empty. No
grills, no firebox innards, nada.

I can make stuff pretty readily, but in this case I'd hoped to see
what they started with. Hence, questions:

Is there just one layer of grill inside the smoke box? (No warming
rack up above?)


I've never seen one. I don't know how a warming rack would work for the
food, though, given the amount of smoke exposure.
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Old 20-01-2008, 09:24 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue
Grant Erwin
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Default nother newbie NBBD question

Dave Bugg wrote:

Grant Erwin wrote:

I am now the owner of a genuine New Braunfels Black Diamond smoker.
Well, of course, it isn't used. The shell is in good condition, as
are the legs, wheels, stack and cover. But the thing is empty. No
grills, no firebox innards, nada.

I can make stuff pretty readily, but in this case I'd hoped to see
what they started with. Hence, questions:

Is there just one layer of grill inside the smoke box? (No warming
rack up above?)



I've never seen one. I don't know how a warming rack would work for the
food, though, given the amount of smoke exposure.


My experience with smokers is that an upper rack can be used to hold
small pans of jalapenos, peeled garlic and the like. The pit boss of
one local place told me I had to try peeled garlic put in a small oven
pan and smoked for about 3 hours. He said it melted down into a brownish
goo which was absolutely killer spread on bread.

Grant

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Old 20-01-2008, 09:25 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue
Pete C.
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Default nother newbie NBBD question

Grant Erwin wrote:

I am now the owner of a genuine New Braunfels Black Diamond smoker. Well,
of course, it isn't used. The shell is in good condition, as are the legs,
wheels, stack and cover. But the thing is empty. No grills, no firebox
innards, nada.

I can make stuff pretty readily, but in this case I'd hoped to see what
they started with. Hence, questions:

Is there just one layer of grill inside the smoke box? (No warming rack
up above?)

Anyone have pictures of the inside of one of these?

Thanks!

Grant Erwin
Kirkland, Washington

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You should be able to find an assembly guide to match it he
http://www.charbroil.com

Only one level of grid in the smoke chamber.
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Old 21-01-2008, 04:54 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
Nunya Bidnits[_2_]
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Default nother newbie NBBD question


"Pete C." wrote in message
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Grant Erwin wrote:

I am now the owner of a genuine New Braunfels Black Diamond smoker.


You should be able to find an assembly guide to match it he
http://www.charbroil.com

Only one level of grid in the smoke chamber.


Mine came with two different sets of 3 grills. A smaller set, porcelain
coated, and a larger set, black steel. One of the porcelains is supposed to
go in bottom of the firebox to support the heat source up off of the bottom
of the firebox. The other two can be used as lower racks in the cooking
chamber, or turned 90 degrees they will sit high in the firebox above the
fire to be used as a grill. In actual practice, the firebox makes a crappy
grill no matter how you do it. However both sets of racks are rectangular,
designed so that when turned 90 degrees each sits at a different height in
the cook chamber. You can also rotate the lower grid in the firebox to raise
or lower the fire height. So you can adjust things if you get rectangular
racks. BTW forget the porcelain coating in the lower firebox rack that
supports the fire, the porcelain will be killed and fall off in short order.

Note that my NBBD was acquired before NB was bought up.

You should also have in the firebox a curved metal plate of the same radius
and length as the firebox that nests in the firebox floor, same thickness of
steel as the body of the smoker and sized to be about 1/4 of the total
circumference of the firebox. This nesting plate is to help protect the
outer shell of the steel firebox from rust through by basically doubling the
thickness of the bottom of the firebox, since ash and moisture are very
corrosive.

Note that this stuff may not be true for newer models. If you have an older
one and don't find both sets of grill dimensions, let me know and I will go
out and measure mine for you.

MartyB in KC

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Old 21-01-2008, 06:04 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
Grant Erwin
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Default nother newbie NBBD question

Nunya Bidnits wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in message
...

Grant Erwin wrote:

I am now the owner of a genuine New Braunfels Black Diamond smoker.


You should be able to find an assembly guide to match it he
http://www.charbroil.com

Only one level of grid in the smoke chamber.



Mine came with two different sets of 3 grills. A smaller set, porcelain
coated, and a larger set, black steel. One of the porcelains is supposed to
go in bottom of the firebox to support the heat source up off of the bottom
of the firebox. The other two can be used as lower racks in the cooking
chamber, or turned 90 degrees they will sit high in the firebox above the
fire to be used as a grill. In actual practice, the firebox makes a crappy
grill no matter how you do it. However both sets of racks are rectangular,
designed so that when turned 90 degrees each sits at a different height in
the cook chamber. You can also rotate the lower grid in the firebox to raise
or lower the fire height. So you can adjust things if you get rectangular
racks. BTW forget the porcelain coating in the lower firebox rack that
supports the fire, the porcelain will be killed and fall off in short order.

Note that my NBBD was acquired before NB was bought up.

You should also have in the firebox a curved metal plate of the same radius
and length as the firebox that nests in the firebox floor, same thickness of
steel as the body of the smoker and sized to be about 1/4 of the total
circumference of the firebox. This nesting plate is to help protect the
outer shell of the steel firebox from rust through by basically doubling the
thickness of the bottom of the firebox, since ash and moisture are very
corrosive.

Note that this stuff may not be true for newer models. If you have an older
one and don't find both sets of grill dimensions, let me know and I will go
out and measure mine for you.

MartyB in KC


Thanks, Marty. I do have the curved metal ash shield, and I do actually
have some of the lower grates, don't know if they are original equipment
or not. I will call Charbroil tomorrow to see if they can still source
the original (odd sized) cooking grids and lower grates. If they can't,
I may ask you for some dimensions and make my own.

Grant Erwin

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