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26-02-2007, 03:05 AM
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Natual gas vs propane, which is hotter
"Steve Barker" wrote in message ... Did you consider turning off the tank valve whilst this alleged broken line burnt your house? -- Steve Barker I can't imagine getting near it if it was shooting out full blast. I think the new tanks with the OPD would shut off themselves in that condition. 
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26-02-2007, 03:07 AM
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Newsreader wrote:
For example, re-jet a Viking gas cooktop for LP, and each burner's BTU rating drops by 500, as per spec sheet he http://www.vikingrange.com/MEDIA_Cus...vgsu_specs.pdf on page 2. I don't have the spec handy, but my gas fireplace rating is lower with LP than NG as well. How strange. Maybe the pressure is lower with LP gas?
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26-02-2007, 03:40 AM
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:05:12 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote: "Steve Barker" wrote in message m... Did you consider turning off the tank valve whilst this alleged broken line burnt your house? -- Steve Barker I can't imagine getting near it if it was shooting out full blast. I think Me neither. A garden hose couldn't have put out the flame, probably, but it might have kept the house from burning. But maybe he did do that and if not, it's easy to think of those things now. the new tanks with the OPD would shut off themselves in that condition. Really?
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26-02-2007, 03:40 AM
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"Denny Wheeler" wrote in message ... On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:50:25 GMT, "tom" wrote: "Doug Miller" wrote in message news  In article . com, " wrote: snip This has nothing to do with which is hotter but rather a potential safety issue. In 2000 we had the flexible connection line fail on our propane GG and turned the tank into a huge blow torch that proceeded to burn off the back of the house because there was no way to extinguish the propane tank till it burned itself empty. That wouldn't of happened had I had a gas shut off as I do now with our natural gas grill. That's why I'll never own a propane grill again. Is this the place where I mention the house fire that almost killed me and my mother? The one that was caused by a natural gas heating system? I don't know about the tank you had, but every single propane tank I've ever seen has had a shutoff valve attached. snip -denny- -- The test of courage comes when we are in the minority. The test of tolerance comes when we are in the majority. The 20 lb. tank that caught fire also had a shut-off but with it spewing an 8 ft flame neither myself or the firemen were able to approach it to turn it off.
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26-02-2007, 03:43 AM
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"Steve Barker" wrote in message ... Did you consider turning off the tank valve whilst this alleged broken line burnt your house? -- Steve Barker "tom" wrote in message k.net... This has nothing to do with which is hotter but rather a potential safety issue. In 2000 we had the flexible connection line fail on our propane GG and turned the tank into a huge blow torch that proceeded to burn off the back of the house because there was no way to extinguish the propane tank till it burned itself empty. That wouldn't of happened had I had a gas shut off as I do now with our natural gas grill. That's why I'll never own a propane grill again. The 20 lb. tank that caught fire also had a shut-off but with it spewing an 8 ft flame neither myself or the firemen were able to approach it to turn it off.
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26-02-2007, 03:49 AM
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"mm" wrote in message the new tanks with the OPD would shut off themselves in that condition. Really? The OPD is a float that blocks the outlet. Thee is also a valve like the one on a tire valve that must be pushed in. If the OPD gets forced tot he top of the tank it will shut it off or severely cut down the amount of gas escaping. If you wee able to knock it on its side it would be even better as it is designed to stop leaks from a tank in your trunk that gets knocked over.
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26-02-2007, 04:22 AM
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:49:36 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote: "mm" wrote in message the new tanks with the OPD would shut off themselves in that condition. Really? The OPD is a float that blocks the outlet. Thee is also a valve like the one on a tire valve that must be pushed in. If the OPD gets forced tot he top of the tank it will shut it off or severely cut down the amount of gas escaping. If you wee able to knock it on its side it would be even better as it is designed to stop leaks from a tank in your trunk that gets knocked over. Sounds good. Is this the new design that everyone had to switch to over the last 6 or 7 years?
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26-02-2007, 04:45 AM
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"mm" wrote in message Sounds good. Is this the new design that everyone had to switch to over the last 6 or 7 years? Yes, many state now require it. You can tell because it has a triangular shaped know on top
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26-02-2007, 05:08 AM
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"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message ... "mm" wrote in message Sounds good. Is this the new design that everyone had to switch to over the last 6 or 7 years? Yes, many state now require it. You can tell because it has a triangular shaped know on top Q: What is an overfilling prevention device? A: As defined by the National Fire Protection Association's Pamphlet 58 - LP-Gas Code, 1998 Edition (Code), it is..."A safety device that is designed to provide an automatic means to prevent the filling of a container in excess of the maximum permitted filling limit." http://www.grillman.com/propane_tankregs.htm#q4
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26-02-2007, 05:22 AM
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"tom" wrote in message .net... "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message ... "mm" wrote in message Sounds good. Is this the new design that everyone had to switch to over the last 6 or 7 years? Yes, many state now require it. You can tell because it has a triangular shaped know on top Q: What is an overfilling prevention device? A: As defined by the National Fire Protection Association's Pamphlet 58 - LP-Gas Code, 1998 Edition (Code), it is..."A safety device that is designed to provide an automatic means to prevent the filling of a container in excess of the maximum permitted filling limit." http://www.grillman.com/propane_tankregs.htm#q4 Sorry, should be: http://www.grillman.com/propane_tankregs.htm#q1
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26-02-2007, 06:07 AM
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I'd just reach over and turn the fukin valve off. didn't the OP say the
fire was blazing out the end of a broken tube? And not right at the tank? -- Steve Barker "mm" wrote in message ... On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:05:12 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote: "Steve Barker" wrote in message om... Did you consider turning off the tank valve whilst this alleged broken line burnt your house? -- Steve Barker I can't imagine getting near it if it was shooting out full blast. I think Me neither. A garden hose couldn't have put out the flame, probably, but it might have kept the house from burning. But maybe he did do that and if not, it's easy to think of those things now. the new tanks with the OPD would shut off themselves in that condition. Really?
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26-02-2007, 06:10 AM
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that float valve only blocks it if it's overfilled. would do nothing on its
side or upside down, because it would float the wrong way. -- Steve Barker "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message ... "mm" wrote in message the new tanks with the OPD would shut off themselves in that condition. Really? The OPD is a float that blocks the outlet. Thee is also a valve like the one on a tire valve that must be pushed in. If the OPD gets forced tot he top of the tank it will shut it off or severely cut down the amount of gas escaping. If you wee able to knock it on its side it would be even better as it is designed to stop leaks from a tank in your trunk that gets knocked over.
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26-02-2007, 06:27 AM
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:07:00 -0600, "Steve Barker"
wrote: I'd just reach over and turn the fukin valve off. didn't the OP say the fire was blazing out the end of a broken tube? And not right at the tank? Later he said that the firemen wouldn't do it either. So I guess it didn't look like a good idea.
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26-02-2007, 06:30 AM
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On Feb 25, 10:07 pm, "Steve Barker"
wrote: I'd just reach over and turn the fukin valve off. didn't the OP say the fire was blazing out the end of a broken tube? And not right at the tank? -- Steve Barker "mm" wrote in message ... On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:05:12 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote: "Steve Barker" wrote in message om... Did you consider turning off the tank valve whilst this alleged broken line burnt your house? -- Steve Barker I can't imagine getting near it if it was shooting out full blast. I think Me neither. A garden hose couldn't have put out the flame, probably, but it might have kept the house from burning. But maybe he did do that and if not, it's easy to think of those things now. the new tanks with the OPD would shut off themselves in that condition. Really? If the "blow torch" installation is anything like mine...that flexible tube is only about 2 or 3 ft long. I don't think I'd be getting within 2 or 3 ft of a blazing propane tube........ cheers Bob
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26-02-2007, 11:23 AM
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"Steve Barker" wrote in message ... that float valve only blocks it if it's overfilled. would do nothing on its side or upside down, because it would float the wrong way. -- Steve Barker Even standing in the proper position, they often block the flow if the gas is turned on to a high flow fast. Want to test out the theory?
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