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Which Weber Genesis B?



 
 
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Old 07-09-2006, 05:31 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
geemike
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Default Which Weber Genesis B?

Sears has the Silver B for $449 and the Platinum Stainless B for $619
on their web site. I don't know if I can jack the prices down further
by taking a printout of the sale page to HD but I'm going to find out.

Here's my question:
My grill sits outdoors on the patio with no roof. I've never covered a
grill and don't expect that I ever will. I'm tempted to spend the
extra $$ for the all stainless Platinum model thinking it will stay
looking/functioning better over the years than the Silver model.

Can anyone advise if the Platinum B SS actually performs any better
than the Silver B?

Thanks,

Mike

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Old 07-09-2006, 06:50 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
Kent
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Default Which Weber Genesis B?


"geemike" wrote in message
ps.com...
Sears has the Silver B for $449 and the Platinum Stainless B for $619
on their web site. I don't know if I can jack the prices down further
by taking a printout of the sale page to HD but I'm going to find out.

Here's my question:
My grill sits outdoors on the patio with no roof. I've never covered a
grill and don't expect that I ever will. I'm tempted to spend the
extra $$ for the all stainless Platinum model thinking it will stay
looking/functioning better over the years than the Silver model.

Can anyone advise if the Platinum B SS actually performs any better
than the Silver B?

Thanks,

Mike

Mike, I have a B. I doubt think it performs any better than the SS, maybe
less so. I think the SS has SS grates. SS is a very poor conductor of heat,
worse, actually than the porcelain coated steel grates on the B. All of this
is improved with the cast iron grates. The porcelainized cast iron grates,
for about 55 bucks, makes a lot of difference.
I would strongly buying the $15 cover at H. Dep. It will last a lot longer,
and it will be much easier to clean.

Kent


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Old 07-09-2006, 02:09 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue
jdoe[_1_]
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Default Which Weber Genesis B?

I"m sure for longevity the platinum will be the better choice. That being
said performance wise they should be the same. Re. SS being a poor heat
conductor well..............I have used all sorts of materials and I truly
don't see that much difference. Mostly it has to do with the cook's
performance and the quality of the food. My own Genesis II is going on 14
and sits pretty much outside uncovered. I am just starting to notice a tiny
bit of paint bubbling on the frame but that's it. I did have to redo the
wood slat trays and stuff though.
When I replace or add to the current unit I think I will go with the
Platinum. JUst my .02
"geemike" wrote in message
ps.com...
Sears has the Silver B for $449 and the Platinum Stainless B for $619
on their web site. I don't know if I can jack the prices down further
by taking a printout of the sale page to HD but I'm going to find out.

Here's my question:
My grill sits outdoors on the patio with no roof. I've never covered a
grill and don't expect that I ever will. I'm tempted to spend the
extra $$ for the all stainless Platinum model thinking it will stay
looking/functioning better over the years than the Silver model.

Can anyone advise if the Platinum B SS actually performs any better
than the Silver B?

Thanks,

Mike



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Old 07-09-2006, 04:07 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue
jerryeveretts
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Default Which Weber Genesis B?

Good advice on the SS grates. Can I buy the cast iron ones? I have a
Genesis, I don't remember which model I think a silver or gold of some
sort, it has SS grates, kinda half moon shaped, I can get the grill to
650-700 degrees, But I would like to get a better 'sear'. Should I buy
the cast iron?

Jerry

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Old 07-09-2006, 06:33 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue
Steve Calvin
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Default Which Weber Genesis B?

jerryeveretts wrote:
Good advice on the SS grates. Can I buy the cast iron ones? I have a
Genesis, I don't remember which model I think a silver or gold of some
sort, it has SS grates, kinda half moon shaped, I can get the grill to
650-700 degrees, But I would like to get a better 'sear'. Should I buy
the cast iron?

Jerry

I've had a Silver B for 8 years. I live in upstate New York and believe
me, we get our share of bad weather. The grill has sat outside since I
bought it, uncovered. I use it year round. It still looks and works as
new. I did throw those POS cast iron grates out though and bought
porclean covered CI grates at Home Depot.

My WSM sits out right beside it. I do cover that though because if I
don't it has a tendency to flood when it rains. ;-)
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Old 07-09-2006, 06:50 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue
Reg[_1_]
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Default Which Weber Genesis B?

Kent wrote:


Mike, I have a B. I doubt think it performs any better than the SS, maybe
less so. I think the SS has SS grates. SS is a very poor conductor of heat,
worse, actually than the porcelain coated steel grates on the B. All of this
is improved with the cast iron grates. The porcelainized cast iron grates,
for about 55 bucks, makes a lot of difference.
I would strongly buying the $15 cover at H. Dep. It will last a lot longer,
and it will be much easier to clean.


I've heard good things about the porcelain grates from a few
other sources. I'll pick some up next time I'm at Home Depot.
Thanks for the tip.

--
Reg

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Old 07-09-2006, 07:14 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue
geemike
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Default Bought the "C" model from HD for $450

after the price match and 10%.
I never once used the side burner on my current crappo grill, but this
one looks pretty decent and I do fantasize about sauteing some
Portabellas while the steaks are cooking so what's an extra $50.
HD doesn't carry the Platinum so I had no chance to look at it.

This is the first decent grill I've ever owned in my life. Can't wait
to try it on a brisket tomorrow.

Thank you everyone for the responses.

Mike


geemike wrote:
Sears has the Silver B for $449 and the Platinum Stainless B for $619
on their web site. I don't know if I can jack the prices down further
by taking a printout of the sale page to HD but I'm going to find out.

Here's my question:
My grill sits outdoors on the patio with no roof. I've never covered a
grill and don't expect that I ever will. I'm tempted to spend the
extra $$ for the all stainless Platinum model thinking it will stay
looking/functioning better over the years than the Silver model.

Can anyone advise if the Platinum B SS actually performs any better
than the Silver B?

Thanks,

Mike


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Old 07-09-2006, 07:21 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue
Rob Mills
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Default Which Weber Genesis B?


"Reg" wrote in message
t...

I've heard good things about the porcelain grates from a few

other sources. I'll pick some up next time I'm at Home Depot.

Don't know if the grates are considered as "accessories" but HD has all
their grill accessories 25% off right now. I did notice that the rotisserie
was included in the sale.
I'm trying to decide if I would use a rotisserie enough to warrant the
price. I guess it would be good for chicken pieces but I mostly do steaks,
ribs and briskets. I have intended to try the beer/pop can chicken, sounds
great. I'm thinking that lime flavored pop might be a good item to try. RM~




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Old 07-09-2006, 07:49 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue
Reg[_1_]
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Default Which Weber Genesis B?

Rob Mills wrote:

"Reg" wrote in message
t...

I've heard good things about the porcelain grates from a few

other sources. I'll pick some up next time I'm at Home Depot.


More good info. Thanks.

Don't know if the grates are considered as "accessories" but HD has all
their grill accessories 25% off right now. I did notice that the rotisserie
was included in the sale.
I'm trying to decide if I would use a rotisserie enough to warrant the
price. I guess it would be good for chicken pieces but I mostly do steaks,
ribs and briskets. I have intended to try the beer/pop can chicken, sounds
great. I'm thinking that lime flavored pop might be a good item to try. RM~


That's an easy question, get one. I love the rot, and I use
it all the time. Self basting food... it's a great thing. I
think it cost $70 or so. Not too bad for a useful accessory.

I like to do whole birds, stuffed a variety of things depending
on the mood. Fresh herbs, onion, and citrus go well. It will
heat up, mix with the natural fat, and then liberally coat
the outside, all on auto-pilot, so I can get other prep work
done while it's cooking away. The thing was practically made
for parties.

Roll, stuff and tie pork, veal, and lamb roasts. Again, whatever
you put inside will usually end up on the outside if you
do it right. I use Ricky's suggestion of coating a stick of
butter with onion and herbs and rolling it inside the meat.
Butter has a low melting point so the self-basting starts
early in the cooking process, and it carries all the other
flavors with it.

http://www.fawnridge.com/ricky/lamb.txt

Finally, the rot just looks good. It's festive, evocative of
olden days where large hunks of meat rotated over fire
pits. Having one slowly spinning and sizzling over in the
corner of the patio makes for a nice feeling at a backyard
party.

--
Reg

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Old 07-09-2006, 11:44 PM posted to alt.food.barbecue
Rob Mills
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Default Which Weber Genesis B?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Reg"
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Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:49 PM
Subject: Which Weber Genesis B?


Rob Mills wrote:

"Reg" wrote in message
t...

I've heard good things about the porcelain grates from a few

other sources. I'll pick some up next time I'm at Home Depot.


More good info. Thanks.


I just got back from a tour of two HD's. One had a sign up in the department
"25% off on all grill accessories" and the other one just had certain items
discounted 25%. So it must be a store to store option.
I picked up a thermometer for my 20+ yr old plate steel Brinkman Smoke'n Pit
for $15. They had been about $25. RM~

PS, I left the rotisserie there. I had one for an old Char Broil and don't
think I ever used it.


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Old 08-09-2006, 02:57 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
Steve Calvin
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Default Which Weber Genesis B?

Rob Mills wrote:


I just got back from a tour of two HD's. One had a sign up in the department
"25% off on all grill accessories" and the other one just had certain items
discounted 25%. So it must be a store to store option.
I picked up a thermometer for my 20+ yr old plate steel Brinkman Smoke'n Pit
for $15. They had been about $25. RM~

PS, I left the rotisserie there. I had one for an old Char Broil and don't
think I ever used it.



Congrats on the score but I think the Weber Therms. are
about ten bucks normally. At least the ones I put in my WSM
were.

As for the rotisserie, man, I use mine frequently on the
Silver B. To each their own I guess.

--
Steve
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Old 08-09-2006, 03:24 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
Kent
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Default Which Weber Genesis B?


"Reg" wrote in message
t...
Kent wrote:


Mike, I have a B. I doubt think it performs any better than the SS, maybe
less so. I think the SS has SS grates. SS is a very poor conductor of
heat, worse, actually than the porcelain coated steel grates on the B.
All of this is improved with the cast iron grates. The porcelainized cast
iron grates, for about 55 bucks, makes a lot of difference.
I would strongly buying the $15 cover at H. Dep. It will last a lot
longer, and it will be much easier to clean.


I've heard good things about the porcelain grates from a few
other sources. I'll pick some up next time I'm at Home Depot.
Thanks for the tip.

--
Reg


When you get and use it, put the flat face of the grate facing upward. The
cast iron grate will get to the same or slightly higher heat, but it holds
the heat. A steak will sear much better than with a steel grate. Because
it's flat, it's much better for flaky fish and other things that are
difficult to grill on a standard grate. Because it's porcelainized it's much
easier to deal with than old fashioned seasoned cast iron.


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Old 08-09-2006, 03:27 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
Kent
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Default Which Weber Genesis B?


"Rob Mills" wrote in message
news:WqZLg.11041$xk3.3203@dukeread07...

"Reg" wrote in message
t...

I've heard good things about the porcelain grates from a few

other sources. I'll pick some up next time I'm at Home Depot.

Don't know if the grates are considered as "accessories" but HD has all
their grill accessories 25% off right now. I did notice that the
rotisserie
was included in the sale.
I'm trying to decide if I would use a rotisserie enough to warrant the
price. I guess it would be good for chicken pieces but I mostly do steaks,
ribs and briskets. I have intended to try the beer/pop can chicken, sounds
great. I'm thinking that lime flavored pop might be a good item to try.
RM~


We like beer can chicken. However we put the "canned chicken" on the bottom
grate of the Weber 22" and use charcoal baskets on either side. More heat
comes laterally, and everything works better. You don't have to turn in the
usual fshion, or use a rot.


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Old 08-09-2006, 04:07 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
Rob Mills
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Default Which Weber Genesis B?


"Steve Calvin" wrote in message
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I think the Weber Therms. are about ten bucks normally.


That's probably the small one. They had those on sale for $7. The one I got
(Brinkman) normally goes for $24.95 and has a 3 in dia face and mounts in a
13/16 hole. Nice big numbers this old geezer can read without getting so
close that I burn my face. RM~




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Old 08-09-2006, 05:08 AM posted to alt.food.barbecue
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Default Which Weber Genesis B?


"Kent" wrote in message
. ..

We like beer can chicken. However


Yeah, I can see all kinds of possibilities. I'm going to play with it on my
silver b and the old brinkman smoker also. RM~


 




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