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I used a new recipe to bake my first loaf of ciabatta in months. All went
seemingly well and it rose nicely in the oven but when I cut into it there was a single, huge void running along almost the entire upper half of the loaf. What I want, of course, is a nice, open-textured ciabatta, with something like a third to a half of the loaf consisting of pea-to-marble-sized voids evenly disbursed throughout. You know, like what you buy in the store. I've had the same problem once or twice with plain French bread as well. What causes this? |
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"Bob Benton" wrote: I used a new recipe to bake my first loaf of ciabatta in months. All went seemingly well and it rose nicely in the oven but when I cut into it there was a single, huge void running along almost the entire upper half of the loaf. What I want, of course, is a nice, open-textured ciabatta, with something like a third to a half of the loaf consisting of pea-to-marble-sized voids evenly disbursed throughout. You know, like what you buy in the store. I've had the same problem once or twice with plain French bread as well. What causes this? I was just wondering about this myself. I made pain levain the other day and ended up with lots of regular size, desirable holes but one BIG hole along the top where the "spine" would be if a long loaf of bread had a spine. I think that I've lost something I once knew about forming the loaves. Or I'm not pressing down the dough enough when folding it so it's got some air pocket in it. I hope other people have ideas about this. The bread was very tasty, but it would be hard to use for say, tuna sandwiches! :-) -- Mary Beth Orientation::Quilter http://www.quiltr.com http://www.fruitcakesociety.org http://homepage.mac.com/mbgoodman/bread05/ |
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In article ,
"Bob Benton" wrote: I used a new recipe to bake my first loaf of ciabatta in months. All went seemingly well and it rose nicely in the oven but when I cut into it there was a single, huge void running along almost the entire upper half of the loaf. What I want, of course, is a nice, open-textured ciabatta, with something like a third to a half of the loaf consisting of pea-to-marble-sized voids evenly disbursed throughout. You know, like what you buy in the store. I've had the same problem once or twice with plain French bread as well. What causes this? I was just wondering about this myself. I made pain levain the other day and ended up with lots of regular size, desirable holes but one BIG hole along the top where the "spine" would be if a long loaf of bread had a spine. I think that I've lost something I once knew about forming the loaves. Or I'm not pressing down the dough enough when folding it so it's got some air pocket in it. I hope other people have ideas about this. The bread was very tasty, but it would be hard to use for say, tuna sandwiches! :-) -- Mary Beth Orientation::Quilter http://www.quiltr.com http://www.fruitcakesociety.org http://homepage.mac.com/mbgoodman/bread05/ |
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"Her Subj." wrote: I like my ciabatta with huge holes in it so I can embed pesto and such in the nooks and crannies, but it sounds like your problem is a dough that's too wet. Are you saying that if the dough is too wet the air actually rises through the dough and collects at the top of the loaf? -- Mary Beth Orientation::Quilter http://www.quiltr.com http://www.fruitcakesociety.org http://homepage.mac.com/mbgoodman/bread05/ |
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In article .com,
"Her Subj." wrote: I like my ciabatta with huge holes in it so I can embed pesto and such in the nooks and crannies, but it sounds like your problem is a dough that's too wet. Are you saying that if the dough is too wet the air actually rises through the dough and collects at the top of the loaf? -- Mary Beth Orientation::Quilter http://www.quiltr.com http://www.fruitcakesociety.org http://homepage.mac.com/mbgoodman/bread05/ |
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I think it was too dry, if anything. Using a KitchenAid on speed 2, I just
kept adding flour until all of the dough cleared the bowl and stuck to the dough hook. I'm thinking of using the King Arthur recipe tomorrow when I do Mod. II. King Arthur also says to dimple the loaf thoroughly and vigorously before it goes into the oven. Maybe he got that fromMerlin. "Her Subj." wrote in message oups.com... I like my ciabatta with huge holes in it so I can embed pesto and such in the nooks and crannies, but it sounds like your problem is a dough that's too wet. |
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I think it was too dry, if anything. Using a KitchenAid on speed 2, I just
kept adding flour until all of the dough cleared the bowl and stuck to the dough hook. I'm thinking of using the King Arthur recipe tomorrow when I do Mod. II. King Arthur also says to dimple the loaf thoroughly and vigorously before it goes into the oven. Maybe he got that fromMerlin. "Her Subj." wrote in message oups.com... I like my ciabatta with huge holes in it so I can embed pesto and such in the nooks and crannies, but it sounds like your problem is a dough that's too wet. |
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I have had this exact same problem probably three times in the last
year with this formula. I've never really laid it to rest but I too am leaning towards the 'too much water' theory... though I've long believed it may also have to do with not forming the final loaf correctly such that you end up with a continuous air pocket on top which just blows up beyond control once in the hot oven... It would be good to hear the 'real reason' from an expert though. |
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