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26-02-2005, 05:00 AM
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"MOMPEAGRAM" wrote in message news:1109388164.8980ce2992a02a29a71c305f69d491e5@t eranews... "bumblebee4451" wrote in message oups.com... I have been making cakes for many years and they have rarely ever stuck. The procedure is as above, greasing and flouring the pans. I really don't think it makes a difference if you use butter or oil or Pam. I usually use butter if there is butter in the cake, and oil if its an oil based cake as many bundt pans are. Cool the cake and turn over on a rack for a while. Sometimes its helpful to stick a knife around the edges between the cake and the pan. I think a big difference is using a non stick pan. I have an ancient bundt pan that is very heavy and it can be hard to get the cake out of the pan. I recently bought a new non stick nordic ware bundt (they had them at TJ maxx) and I sprayed it with Pam and the cake slid right out. I would use that method also, but the instructions on the non-stick bundt pan I bought specifically states do NOT use spray or it will void the warranty. The paradox of the sprays is that they eventually result in a sticky build-up on your cookware. This seems to be particularly true for non-stick pans. It is cheaper and better to just put some vegetable oil in an inexpensive spray bottle and use that. Still, for cake pans, I find that using a solid fat like butter or shortening is better because you can apply a heavier coating. Also, using parchment in the bottom guarantees that the cake will release without tearing. 
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26-02-2005, 01:53 PM
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"Vox Humana" wrote in message
... "MOMPEAGRAM" wrote in message news:1109388164.8980ce2992a02a29a71c305f69d491e5@t eranews... "bumblebee4451" wrote in message oups.com... I have been making cakes for many years and they have rarely ever stuck. The procedure is as above, greasing and flouring the pans. I really don't think it makes a difference if you use butter or oil or Pam. I usually use butter if there is butter in the cake, and oil if its an oil based cake as many bundt pans are. Cool the cake and turn over on a rack for a while. Sometimes its helpful to stick a knife around the edges between the cake and the pan. I think a big difference is using a non stick pan. I have an ancient bundt pan that is very heavy and it can be hard to get the cake out of the pan. I recently bought a new non stick nordic ware bundt (they had them at TJ maxx) and I sprayed it with Pam and the cake slid right out. I would use that method also, but the instructions on the non-stick bundt pan I bought specifically states do NOT use spray or it will void the warranty. The paradox of the sprays is that they eventually result in a sticky build-up on your cookware. This seems to be particularly true for non-stick pans. It is cheaper and better to just put some vegetable oil in an inexpensive spray bottle and use that. Still, for cake pans, I find that using a solid fat like butter or shortening is better because you can apply a heavier coating. Also, using parchment in the bottom guarantees that the cake will release without tearing. I use the parchment method with flat pans and solid fat for the bundt, as you say.
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26-02-2005, 06:09 PM
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Wow, what a lot of good ideas. Ask and yee shall receive. I'll try them all.
Call me lazy, ahh, call me what you wish, but cutting out round parchments is such a hassle for an industrial strength clutz as myself. I saw pre-cut rounds on a cooking show but I can't find them at the local groceries or William Sonoma. Does anyone have a source for parchment rounds? I mean they are such a darned good idea! Thanks again for the responses. Raj V
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26-02-2005, 06:18 PM
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"Raj V" wrote in message ... Wow, what a lot of good ideas. Ask and yee shall receive. I'll try them all. Call me lazy, ahh, call me what you wish, but cutting out round parchments is such a hassle for an industrial strength clutz as myself. I saw pre-cut rounds on a cooking show but I can't find them at the local groceries or William Sonoma. Does anyone have a source for parchment rounds? I mean they are such a darned good idea! Thanks again for the responses. Raj V Parchment I find is expensive for this use. I just use wax paper. To cut you just need to fold in 4 and place the pan on the paper for rounds and trace the round on the folded paper and cut. It will fit.
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26-02-2005, 06:20 PM
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"Raj V" wrote in message ... Wow, what a lot of good ideas. Ask and yee shall receive. I'll try them all. Call me lazy, ahh, call me what you wish, but cutting out round parchments is such a hassle for an industrial strength clutz as myself. I saw pre-cut rounds on a cooking show but I can't find them at the local groceries or William Sonoma. Does anyone have a source for parchment rounds? I mean they are such a darned good idea! You can get pan liners in a variety of sizes at cake supply stores like www.sugarcraft.com Click on the "Paper, etc." tab at the left and scroll down the page for the parchment pan liners.
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26-02-2005, 06:55 PM
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"MOMPEAGRAM" wrote in message news:1109438161.99ac6b895a9ab305695a24bd4b874123@t eranews... "Raj V" wrote in message ... Wow, what a lot of good ideas. Ask and yee shall receive. I'll try them all. Call me lazy, ahh, call me what you wish, but cutting out round parchments is such a hassle for an industrial strength clutz as myself. I saw pre-cut rounds on a cooking show but I can't find them at the local groceries or William Sonoma. Does anyone have a source for parchment rounds? I mean they are such a darned good idea! Thanks again for the responses. Raj V Parchment I find is expensive for this use. I just use wax paper. To cut you just need to fold in 4 and place the pan on the paper for rounds and trace the round on the folded paper and cut. It will fit. If you live in the vicinity of a GFS Marketplace, they have a good deal on parchment sheets - 50 full-sheet pan sized sheets for about $3.75. http://gfs.know-where.com/gfs/
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26-02-2005, 07:03 PM
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"Vox Humana" wrote in message
... "MOMPEAGRAM" wrote in message news:1109438161.99ac6b895a9ab305695a24bd4b874123@t eranews... "Raj V" wrote in message ... Wow, what a lot of good ideas. Ask and yee shall receive. I'll try them all. Call me lazy, ahh, call me what you wish, but cutting out round parchments is such a hassle for an industrial strength clutz as myself. I saw pre-cut rounds on a cooking show but I can't find them at the local groceries or William Sonoma. Does anyone have a source for parchment rounds? I mean they are such a darned good idea! Thanks again for the responses. Raj V Parchment I find is expensive for this use. I just use wax paper. To cut you just need to fold in 4 and place the pan on the paper for rounds and trace the round on the folded paper and cut. It will fit. If you live in the vicinity of a GFS Marketplace, they have a good deal on parchment sheets - 50 full-sheet pan sized sheets for about $3.75. http://gfs.know-where.com/gfs/ I live in Ontario, Canada
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27-02-2005, 01:42 AM
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"MOMPEAGRAM" wrote in message news:1109441008.badae64e97826d96aafbc178e7bdbc33@t eranews... "Vox Humana" wrote in message ... "MOMPEAGRAM" wrote in message news:1109438161.99ac6b895a9ab305695a24bd4b874123@t eranews... "Raj V" wrote in message ... Wow, what a lot of good ideas. Ask and yee shall receive. I'll try them all. Call me lazy, ahh, call me what you wish, but cutting out round parchments is such a hassle for an industrial strength clutz as myself. I saw pre-cut rounds on a cooking show but I can't find them at the local groceries or William Sonoma. Does anyone have a source for parchment rounds? I mean they are such a darned good idea! Thanks again for the responses. Raj V Parchment I find is expensive for this use. I just use wax paper. To cut you just need to fold in 4 and place the pan on the paper for rounds and trace the round on the folded paper and cut. It will fit. If you live in the vicinity of a GFS Marketplace, they have a good deal on parchment sheets - 50 full-sheet pan sized sheets for about $3.75. http://gfs.know-where.com/gfs/ I live in Ontario, Canada I think that Gordon Food Service is a Canadian company, but I don't know if they have retail locations in Canada.
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27-02-2005, 01:42 AM
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"MOMPEAGRAM" wrote in message news:1109441008.badae64e97826d96aafbc178e7bdbc33@t eranews... "Vox Humana" wrote in message ... "MOMPEAGRAM" wrote in message news:1109438161.99ac6b895a9ab305695a24bd4b874123@t eranews... "Raj V" wrote in message ... Wow, what a lot of good ideas. Ask and yee shall receive. I'll try them all. Call me lazy, ahh, call me what you wish, but cutting out round parchments is such a hassle for an industrial strength clutz as myself. I saw pre-cut rounds on a cooking show but I can't find them at the local groceries or William Sonoma. Does anyone have a source for parchment rounds? I mean they are such a darned good idea! Thanks again for the responses. Raj V Parchment I find is expensive for this use. I just use wax paper. To cut you just need to fold in 4 and place the pan on the paper for rounds and trace the round on the folded paper and cut. It will fit. If you live in the vicinity of a GFS Marketplace, they have a good deal on parchment sheets - 50 full-sheet pan sized sheets for about $3.75. http://gfs.know-where.com/gfs/ I live in Ontario, Canada I think that Gordon Food Service is a Canadian company, but I don't know if they have retail locations in Canada.
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27-02-2005, 01:52 AM
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"Vox Humana" wrote in message ... "MOMPEAGRAM" wrote in message news:1109441008.badae64e97826d96aafbc178e7bdbc33@t eranews... "Vox Humana" wrote in message ... "MOMPEAGRAM" wrote in message news:1109438161.99ac6b895a9ab305695a24bd4b874123@t eranews... "Raj V" wrote in message ... Wow, what a lot of good ideas. Ask and yee shall receive. I'll try them all. Call me lazy, ahh, call me what you wish, but cutting out round parchments is such a hassle for an industrial strength clutz as myself. I saw pre-cut rounds on a cooking show but I can't find them at the local groceries or William Sonoma. Does anyone have a source for parchment rounds? I mean they are such a darned good idea! Thanks again for the responses. Raj V Parchment I find is expensive for this use. I just use wax paper. To cut you just need to fold in 4 and place the pan on the paper for rounds and trace the round on the folded paper and cut. It will fit. If you live in the vicinity of a GFS Marketplace, they have a good deal on parchment sheets - 50 full-sheet pan sized sheets for about $3.75. http://gfs.know-where.com/gfs/ I live in Ontario, Canada I think that Gordon Food Service is a Canadian company, but I don't know if they have retail locations in Canada. I'll check it out. Thanks.
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28-02-2005, 05:30 PM
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Raj V wrote:
Wow, what a lot of good ideas. Ask and yee shall receive. I'll try them all. Call me lazy, ahh, call me what you wish, but cutting out round parchments is such a hassle for an industrial strength clutz as myself. I saw pre-cut rounds on a cooking show but I can't find them at the local groceries or William Sonoma. Does anyone have a source for parchment rounds? I mean they are such a darned good idea! I like to use a mechanical pencil, the ones with a thin metal tip, place the round pan on the parchment then trace around the pan with the pencil. I can then cut out the circle a little smaller than the drawing. This makes it small enough to fit on the inside of the pan and it eliminates the pencil lead from the parchment paper. If I was baking a lot I might consider buying precut parchment. Otherwise, I cannot see wasting the money. Mind you, I'd never shop at William Sonoma either; they charge way too much. -- Send e-mail to: darrell dot grainger at utoronto dot ca
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28-02-2005, 05:50 PM
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, MOMPEAGRAM wrote:
"Vox Humana" wrote in message ... "MOMPEAGRAM" wrote in message news:1109438161.99ac6b895a9ab305695a24bd4b874123@t eranews... "Raj V" wrote in message ... Wow, what a lot of good ideas. Ask and yee shall receive. I'll try them all. Call me lazy, ahh, call me what you wish, but cutting out round parchments is such a hassle for an industrial strength clutz as myself. I saw pre-cut rounds on a cooking show but I can't find them at the local groceries or William Sonoma. Does anyone have a source for parchment rounds? I mean they are such a darned good idea! Thanks again for the responses. Raj V Parchment I find is expensive for this use. I just use wax paper. To cut you just need to fold in 4 and place the pan on the paper for rounds and trace the round on the folded paper and cut. It will fit. If you live in the vicinity of a GFS Marketplace, they have a good deal on parchment sheets - 50 full-sheet pan sized sheets for about $3.75. http://gfs.know-where.com/gfs/ I live in Ontario, Canada If you are in the Toronto area you might want to check out McCall's (http://www.mccalls-cakes.com). They have a lot of baking supplies and might have pan liners. I've never looked for them when I was there. If you go to the web site and don't find what you are looking for, call them. I find there are things at the store that I just cannot find online. Also, if they don't have something they sometimes know someone who does. -- Send e-mail to: darrell dot grainger at utoronto dot ca
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28-02-2005, 05:50 PM
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, MOMPEAGRAM wrote:
"Vox Humana" wrote in message ... "MOMPEAGRAM" wrote in message news:1109438161.99ac6b895a9ab305695a24bd4b874123@t eranews... "Raj V" wrote in message ... Wow, what a lot of good ideas. Ask and yee shall receive. I'll try them all. Call me lazy, ahh, call me what you wish, but cutting out round parchments is such a hassle for an industrial strength clutz as myself. I saw pre-cut rounds on a cooking show but I can't find them at the local groceries or William Sonoma. Does anyone have a source for parchment rounds? I mean they are such a darned good idea! Thanks again for the responses. Raj V Parchment I find is expensive for this use. I just use wax paper. To cut you just need to fold in 4 and place the pan on the paper for rounds and trace the round on the folded paper and cut. It will fit. If you live in the vicinity of a GFS Marketplace, they have a good deal on parchment sheets - 50 full-sheet pan sized sheets for about $3.75. http://gfs.know-where.com/gfs/ I live in Ontario, Canada If you are in the Toronto area you might want to check out McCall's (http://www.mccalls-cakes.com). They have a lot of baking supplies and might have pan liners. I've never looked for them when I was there. If you go to the web site and don't find what you are looking for, call them. I find there are things at the store that I just cannot find online. Also, if they don't have something they sometimes know someone who does. -- Send e-mail to: darrell dot grainger at utoronto dot ca
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28-02-2005, 07:38 PM
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""."" wrote in message
... On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, MOMPEAGRAM wrote: "Vox Humana" wrote in message ... "MOMPEAGRAM" wrote in message news:1109438161.99ac6b895a9ab305695a24bd4b874123@t eranews... "Raj V" wrote in message ... Wow, what a lot of good ideas. Ask and yee shall receive. I'll try them all. Call me lazy, ahh, call me what you wish, but cutting out round parchments is such a hassle for an industrial strength clutz as myself. I saw pre-cut rounds on a cooking show but I can't find them at the local groceries or William Sonoma. Does anyone have a source for parchment rounds? I mean they are such a darned good idea! Thanks again for the responses. Raj V Parchment I find is expensive for this use. I just use wax paper. To cut you just need to fold in 4 and place the pan on the paper for rounds and trace the round on the folded paper and cut. It will fit. If you live in the vicinity of a GFS Marketplace, they have a good deal on parchment sheets - 50 full-sheet pan sized sheets for about $3.75. http://gfs.know-where.com/gfs/ I live in Ontario, Canada If you are in the Toronto area you might want to check out McCall's (http://www.mccalls-cakes.com). They have a lot of baking supplies and might have pan liners. I've never looked for them when I was there. If you go to the web site and don't find what you are looking for, call them. I find there are things at the store that I just cannot find online. Also, if they don't have something they sometimes know someone who does. -- Send e-mail to: darrell dot grainger at utoronto dot ca Thanks!
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