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"JOAT" wrote in message om... Hi. Does anyone have a good recipe to make caramel or Dulce De Leche? And tips on how to store it in jars or cans? The easy way to make Dulce De Leche is to put an unopened can of sweetened condensed milk into a small pan. Add water to bring it to about 3/4 the way up the can. Bring to a boil and simmer for about an hour. Let cool completely before opening. You can turn the can over after 30 minutes. Store in a jar or plastic container. It should keep for a couple of weeks in the refrigerator, maybe more A quicker method is to use a pressure cooker. Cook at pressure for 30 minutes -- 45 minutes if you want it darker. |
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Vox Humana wrote:
The easy way to make Dulce De Leche is to put an unopened can of sweetened condensed milk into a small pan. Add water to bring it to about 3/4 the way up the can. That's an easy way to make an explosion. Add water to completely cover the can AT ALL TIMES by at least 2". Do not answer the phone while this is going on. Do not answer the door. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Making this is safe, but it does need to be watched, do not allow the can to 'surface' in the water at any time. B/ |
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"JOAT" wrote in message om... Hi. Does anyone have a good recipe to make caramel or Dulce De Leche? And tips on how to store it in jars or cans? Here is what the company says: http://www.eaglebrand.com/detail.asp?rid=825 Ingredients 1 (14-ounce) can Eagle Brand® Sweetened Condensed Milk (NOT evaporated milk) Instructions OVEN METHOD: Pour 1 can Eagle Brand into 9-inch pie plate. Cover with aluminum foil; place in larger shallow pan. Fill larger pan with hot water. Bake at 425º for 1 hour or until thick and caramel-colored. Beat until smooth. STOVETOP METHOD: Pour 1 can Eagle Brand into top of double boiler; place over boiling water. Over low heat, simmer 1 to 1/2 hours or until thick and caramel-colored, stirring occasionally. Beat until smooth. MICROWAVE METHOD: Pour 1 can Eagle Brand into 2-quart glass measuring cup. Cook on 50% power (medium) 4 minutes, stirring briskly every 2 minutes until smooth. Cook on 30% power (medium-low) 20 to 25 minutes or until very thick and caramel-colored, stirring briskly every 4 minutes during the first 16 minutes and every 2 minutes during the last 4 to 10 minutes. Dimitri |
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[non-food groups removed -- to the OP, please don't cross-post into
unrelated groups and, indeed, try to keep cross-posting to a minimum] "Vox Humana" wrote in message ... Hi. Does anyone have a good recipe to make caramel or Dulce De Leche? And tips on how to store it in jars or cans? The easy way to make Dulce De Leche is to put an unopened can of sweetened condensed milk into a small pan. Add water to bring it to about 3/4 the way up the can. Bring to a boil and simmer for about an hour. Let cool completely before opening. You can turn the can over after 30 minutes. Store in a jar or plastic container. It should keep for a couple of weeks in the refrigerator, maybe more I have to say that boiling unopened cans is way past my personal risk threshold. No criticism of those who do it; just a different point of view. You can also take the long way around and make dulce de leche from scratch. Following are a couple of recipes that entered my collection in 2001, from rec.food.recipes, posted by linda/tennessee. -j *** Dulce de Leche Makes 1.75 pounds Prep Time: 15 Minutes Cook Time: 1 Hour "This is a typical sweet from Argentina. You can eat it alone, use it to fill cakes, or serve over bananas, ice-cream or any other dessert!" 1 gallon milk 1 vanilla bean 4 1/2 cups white sugar 1 teaspoon baking soda In a large saucepan, bring milk to a boil over medium-high heat. Remove from heat and strain through cheesecloth. Return to pan. Cut vanilla bean in half and pour the seeds in the milk. Stir in the sugar and replace the pan on medium heat, stirring constantly until the sugar is dissolved. Just as the milk mixture begins to boil, stir in the baking soda. Reduce the heat to low and simmer, stirring frequently, until mixture thickens. When a wooden spoon drawn through the mixture leaves the bottom of the pan visible, and the mixture is light brown in color, remove the pan from the heat. Place the pan in an ice bath and stir constantly until dulce de leche is cold. Store in airtight container in refrigerator. Makes 1.75 pounds Dulce de Leche This recipe is adapted from an article which appeared in the daily New York Times. Dulce de leche (pronounced DOOL-say duh LAY-chay) meaning "sweet from milk." Is an Hispanic term for a caramel sauce, which is a traditional flavoring "south of the border" and has been adopted recently as an ice-cream flavoring in America. The flavoring is made by simmering sweetened milk until it turns thick and amber. Reprinted here are a recipe for the basic sauce as well as two recipes using this flavoring. 1 quart whole milk 2 cups sugar 1/4 teaspoon baking soda Pinch cinnamon. Combine ingredients in a large heavy saucepan. Place over medium heat and cook without stirring until mixture boils, 15 to 20 minutes. Briefly remove from heat. Reduce heat to low and cook, stirring frequently with a wooden spoon, 45 minutes to one hour. When mixture becomes a caramel color and is thick enough that you can see the bottom of the pan as you stir, remove it from heat. Use at room temperature or cover and refrigerate. Yield: 2 cups. |
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jacqui{JB} wrote: I have to say that boiling unopened cans is way past my personal risk threshold. No criticism of those who do it; just a different point of view. This was a hot topic of discussion amongst a group of avid cooks that included several engineers. The consensus was that as long as it was allowed to cook completely before opening the pressure cooker method was completely safe and that if care is taken the water bath method is safe. The water bath method was deemed safe as long as the cans were kept completely covered with water and the cooking held to a simmer. The condensed milk inside the cans has a higher boiling point than the water around them and as such will never reach boiling point. As such the worst that could happen is that a rare can might burst but would never explode. I have done this several times and not seen a hint of a problem. If you forget about it and the water boils away that is a whole 'nother story. |
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"Brian Mailman" wrote in message ... Vox Humana wrote: The easy way to make Dulce De Leche is to put an unopened can of sweetened condensed milk into a small pan. Add water to bring it to about 3/4 the way up the can. That's an easy way to make an explosion. Add water to completely cover the can AT ALL TIMES by at least 2". Do not answer the phone while this is going on. Do not answer the door. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Making this is safe, but it does need to be watched, do not allow the can to 'surface' in the water at any time. B/ Why does covering the can make it safer? |
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"Vox Humana" wrote in message .. .
"JOAT" wrote in message om... Hi. Does anyone have a good recipe to make caramel or Dulce De Leche? And tips on how to store it in jars or cans? The easy way to make Dulce De Leche is to put an unopened can of sweetened condensed milk into a small pan. Add water to bring it to about 3/4 the way up the can. Bring to a boil and simmer for about an hour. Let cool completely before opening. You can turn the can over after 30 minutes. Store in a jar or plastic container. It should keep for a couple of weeks in the refrigerator, maybe more A quicker method is to use a pressure cooker. Cook at pressure for 30 minutes -- 45 minutes if you want it darker. An even quicker way is to buy it by the can, already made. You can find it in your supermarket next to the condensed sweetened milk. Taste the same as if you boil it yourself. Here is what it looks like in this pictu http://www.clubbizarre.com/layout/oma.jpg |
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"Vox Humana" wrote in message news ![]() "Brian Mailman" wrote in message ... Vox Humana wrote: The easy way to make Dulce De Leche is to put an unopened can of sweetened condensed milk into a small pan. Add water to bring it to about 3/4 the way up the can. That's an easy way to make an explosion. Add water to completely cover the can AT ALL TIMES by at least 2". Do not answer the phone while this is going on. Do not answer the door. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Making this is safe, but it does need to be watched, do not allow the can to 'surface' in the water at any time. B/ Why does covering the can make it safer? |
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"Vox Humana" wrote in message news ![]() "Brian Mailman" wrote in message ... Vox Humana wrote: The easy way to make Dulce De Leche is to put an unopened can of sweetened condensed milk into a small pan. Add water to bring it to about 3/4 the way up the can. That's an easy way to make an explosion. Add water to completely cover the can AT ALL TIMES by at least 2". Do not answer the phone while this is going on. Do not answer the door. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Making this is safe, but it does need to be watched, do not allow the can to 'surface' in the water at any time. B/ Why does covering the can make it safer? Water under normal pressure conditions will not exceed 212 degrees (the boiling point). The water prevents the contents from getting too hot and exploding the can. Dimitri |
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"Dimitri" wrote in message om... "Vox Humana" wrote in message news ![]() "Brian Mailman" wrote in message ... Vox Humana wrote: The easy way to make Dulce De Leche is to put an unopened can of sweetened condensed milk into a small pan. Add water to bring it to about 3/4 the way up the can. That's an easy way to make an explosion. Add water to completely cover the can AT ALL TIMES by at least 2". Do not answer the phone while this is going on. Do not answer the door. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Making this is safe, but it does need to be watched, do not allow the can to 'surface' in the water at any time. B/ Why does covering the can make it safer? Water under normal pressure conditions will not exceed 212 degrees (the boiling point). The water prevents the contents from getting too hot and exploding the can. Dimitri I understand that part. I just question why Brian claims that the can has to be completely submerged. |
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"Vox Humana" wrote in message Why does covering the can make it safer? Water under normal pressure conditions will not exceed 212 degrees (the boiling point). The water prevents the contents from getting too hot and exploding the can. Dimitri I understand that part. I just question why Brian claims that the can has to be completely submerged. Much cross posting snipped Only thing I can think of is even cooking of the contents. If the can is out of the water, it will be exposed to steam at 212, but no higher. I don't see how else the contents would be affected. Am I missing something? Ed http://pages.cthome.net/edhome |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message m... "Vox Humana" wrote in message Why does covering the can make it safer? Water under normal pressure conditions will not exceed 212 degrees (the boiling point). The water prevents the contents from getting too hot and exploding the can. Dimitri I understand that part. I just question why Brian claims that the can has to be completely submerged. Much cross posting snipped Only thing I can think of is even cooking of the contents. If the can is out of the water, it will be exposed to steam at 212, but no higher. I don't see how else the contents would be affected. Am I missing something? I don't think so. The post that I quested said that the can would explode if it wasn't completely submerged. It seems to me that having part of the can exposed would actually reduce the internal temperature and the pressure. The can would act like a radiator. Since PV=NRT, the pressure would have to be lower in a cooler can since the rest of the parameters (V,N, and R) would be constant. |
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Vox Humana wrote: "Dimitri" wrote in message om... "Vox Humana" wrote in message news ![]() "Brian Mailman" wrote in message ... Vox Humana wrote: The easy way to make Dulce De Leche is to put an unopened can of sweetened condensed milk into a small pan. Add water to bring it to about 3/4 the way up the can. That's an easy way to make an explosion. Add water to completely cover the can AT ALL TIMES by at least 2". ... Why does covering the can make it safer? Water under normal pressure conditions will not exceed 212 degrees (the boiling point). The water prevents the contents from getting too hot and exploding the can. Dimitri I understand that part. I just question why Brian claims that the can has to be completely submerged. So it doesn't explode because the contents overheat, just like Dimitri explained. A can by its nature is a sealed container--i.e., it will become a pressure cooker. Surrounding it with water that _cannot_, under normal pressure, ever exceed the boiling point at that pressure alleviates that concern. Of course, there are some people who wish to demonstrate evolution in action.... B/ |
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"Brian Mailman" wrote in message ... *non food groups snecked* Vox Humana wrote: "Dimitri" wrote in message om... "Vox Humana" wrote in message news
"Brian Mailman" wrote in message ... Vox Humana wrote: The easy way to make Dulce De Leche is to put an unopened can of sweetened condensed milk into a small pan. Add water to bring it to about 3/4 the way up the can. That's an easy way to make an explosion. Add water to completely cover the can AT ALL TIMES by at least 2". .... Why does covering the can make it safer? Water under normal pressure conditions will not exceed 212 degrees (the boiling point). The water prevents the contents from getting too hot and exploding the can. Dimitri I understand that part. I just question why Brian claims that the can has to be completely submerged. So it doesn't explode because the contents overheat, just like Dimitri explained. A can by its nature is a sealed container--i.e., it will become a pressure cooker. Surrounding it with water that _cannot_, under normal pressure, ever exceed the boiling point at that pressure alleviates that concern. Of course, there are some people who wish to demonstrate evolution in action.... The procedure that I posted said to bring the water up 3/4 of the way on the can. I don't see how leaving the TOP 1/4 of the can exposed to the atmosphere which is going to be far cooler than 212F will cause the can to overheat. I'm not saying that you are wrong, but I can't think of any reason why you would be right. I can see how the contents of the can might not cook evenly if isn't fully covered, but that is the opposite of having the can explode. |
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