Hi all,

I'm having a kids cookie decorating party next week and there's 2 kis that
have allergies to nuts & eggs. I wanted to do gingerbread cookie and have
the kids decorate them but I can't find any eggfree recipes. Or can someone
tell me a good cut out cookie recipe that's has not eggs.

Thanks
SPOONS

Here is something from Google that may be of help

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ts&btnG=Search

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"Spoons" wrote:

I'm having a kids cookie decorating party next week and there's 2 kis that
have allergies to nuts & eggs. I wanted to do gingerbread cookie and have
the kids decorate them but I can't find any eggfree recipes. Or can someone
tell me a good cut out cookie recipe that's has not eggs.

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Hi all,

I'm having a kids cookie decorating party next week and there's 2 kis that
have allergies to nuts & eggs. I wanted to do gingerbread cookie and have
the kids decorate them but I can't find any eggfree recipes. Or can
someone
tell me a good cut out cookie recipe that's has not eggs.


I would ask the kid's parents for a recipe. If something goes wrong there
will be hell to pay. I would want to know exactly what the allergy was and
who diagnosed it. I think that a lot of people make assumptions about
allergies. For instance, if the kid ate a bag of nuts, three dozen
doughnuts, and a quart of orange soda and then vomited, they assume that the
kid is allergic to nuts. If the child is indeed allergic to nuts, there is
a great risk of a life threatening reaction. Even a small amount of peanut
butter from your kid's morning toast could be a problem. You kitchen might
not be a safe place in that case. On the other hand, if the allergies are
selfdiagnosed, any random misfortune might be attributed to you like the kid
not being picked as the student of the month.

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004, Spoons wrote:

Hi all,

I'm having a kids cookie decorating party next week and there's 2 kis that
have allergies to nuts & eggs. I wanted to do gingerbread cookie and have
the kids decorate them but I can't find any eggfree recipes. Or can someone
tell me a good cut out cookie recipe that's has not eggs.

I'd search google for something. If you are allergic to eggs would you be
allergic to meringue powder as well? I know that I'll use meringue powder
instead of eggs for some recipes. If that works for allergies as well you
could google for gingerbread+meringue.

I did find a recipe at www.christmas-baking.com/gingerbread.html. The
cookies don't have eggs and it is pretty close to a recipe I usually use.
I'd use similar spices but I'd drop the cardamon and nutmeg and add 1/4 to
1/2 tsp pepper.

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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004, Spoons wrote:

Hi all,

I'm having a kids cookie decorating party next week and there's 2 kis that
have allergies to nuts & eggs. I wanted to do gingerbread cookie and have
the kids decorate them but I can't find any eggfree recipes. Or can someone
tell me a good cut out cookie recipe that's has not eggs.

I'd search google for something. If you are allergic to eggs would you be
allergic to meringue powder as well? I know that I'll use meringue powder
instead of eggs for some recipes. If that works for allergies as well you
could google for gingerbread+meringue.

I did find a recipe at www.christmas-baking.com/gingerbread.html. The
cookies don't have eggs and it is pretty close to a recipe I usually use.
I'd use similar spices but I'd drop the cardamon and nutmeg and add 1/4 to
1/2 tsp pepper.

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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004, Spoons wrote:

Hi all,

I'm having a kids cookie decorating party next week and there's 2 kis that
have allergies to nuts & eggs. I wanted to do gingerbread cookie and have
the kids decorate them but I can't find any eggfree recipes. Or can someone
tell me a good cut out cookie recipe that's has not eggs.

I'd search google for something. If you are allergic to eggs would you be
allergic to meringue powder as well? I know that I'll use meringue powder
instead of eggs for some recipes. If that works for allergies as well you
could google for gingerbread+meringue.

I did find a recipe at www.christmas-baking.com/gingerbread.html. The
cookies don't have eggs and it is pretty close to a recipe I usually use.
I'd use similar spices but I'd drop the cardamon and nutmeg and add 1/4 to
1/2 tsp pepper.

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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004, Spoons wrote:

Hi all,

I'm having a kids cookie decorating party next week and there's 2 kis
that
have allergies to nuts & eggs. I wanted to do gingerbread cookie and
have
the kids decorate them but I can't find any eggfree recipes. Or can
someone
tell me a good cut out cookie recipe that's has not eggs.

I'd search google for something. If you are allergic to eggs would you be
allergic to meringue powder as well? I know that I'll use meringue powder
instead of eggs for some recipes. If that works for allergies as well you
could google for gingerbread+meringue.



Meringue powder = dried egg white.

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Vox Humana wrote:


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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004, Spoons wrote:

Hi all,

I'm having a kids cookie decorating party next week and there's 2 kis
that
have allergies to nuts & eggs. I wanted to do gingerbread cookie and
have
the kids decorate them but I can't find any eggfree recipes. Or can
someone
tell me a good cut out cookie recipe that's has not eggs.

I'd search google for something. If you are allergic to eggs would you be
allergic to meringue powder as well? I know that I'll use meringue powder
instead of eggs for some recipes. If that works for allergies as well you
could google for gingerbread+meringue.

Meringue powder = dried egg white.

But are people allergic to eggs allergic to the egg whites, the yolks or
both? Obviously, if you are allergic to the egg whites you are allergic
to meringue powder.

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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Vox Humana wrote:


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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004, Spoons wrote:

Hi all,

I'm having a kids cookie decorating party next week and there's 2
kis
that
have allergies to nuts & eggs. I wanted to do gingerbread cookie
and
have
the kids decorate them but I can't find any eggfree recipes. Or can
someone
tell me a good cut out cookie recipe that's has not eggs.

I'd search google for something. If you are allergic to eggs would you
be
allergic to meringue powder as well? I know that I'll use meringue
powder
instead of eggs for some recipes. If that works for allergies as well
you
could google for gingerbread+meringue.

Meringue powder = dried egg white.

But are people allergic to eggs allergic to the egg whites, the yolks or
both? Obviously, if you are allergic to the egg whites you are allergic
to meringue powder.

That's the $64,000 question. Do you want to experiment on someone's kids
after being told they are allergic to eggs? As I mentioned in an earlier
post, this has all the makings of litigation. I would want exact details.
What exactly are they allergic to? Who diagnosed it? What happens when
they eat eggs? Ultimately it wouldn't be worth the bother. I would just
ask the parent to give me a recipe. If it is a serious allergy they have
already solved the problem either by finding an acceptable recipe or
deciding not to eat eggs or nuts. Why reinvent the wheel when doing so may
put someone at risk of a serious reaction and subject yourself to
litigation? When someone tells you their kids are allergic to eggs and then
you feed them eggs, then you are probably willfully negligent. Insurance
companies often refuse to pay claims resulting from willful negligence. You
could lose your home over a cookie.

On 20 Dec 2004 21:52:42 GMT
(".") wrote:


Meringue powder = dried egg white.

But are people allergic to eggs allergic to the egg whites, the yolks or
both? Obviously, if you are allergic to the egg whites you are allergic
to meringue powder.


Food allergies are frequently protein sensitivities - the primary
example is nut allergy, where studies have repeatedly shown that people
with severe peanut allergies had no reaction to foods cooked with peanut
oil, if they didn't know it was there. Modern seed crushing and oil
extraction methods leave basically no protein present in consumer grade and
commercial grade oils - though i do remember some cloudy bottles of peanut
oil in my youth.

Albumen is pretty much protein and water, and the websites that come up
when you type "egg allergy" into google indicate that most egg
sensitivities are albumen sensitivities, though some are sensitive to the
yolk. Also that kids generally outgrow this sensitivity by the age of 5 or
so.

So, someone allergic to eggs is likely to be allergic to meringue
powder.

With parents these days, over-reacting to everything, it's entirely
possible that the kid is over it and they don't know because they've never
tried it again. But that's your neck to stick out, not mine. I do know a
family with kids that are sensitive to all sorts of things, including corn.
I am well acquainted with their family and believe their allergy issues to
be genuine.

People, and indeed animals, can be sensitive to just about anything.
Generally allergies are related to very large molecules, and nearly always
these are proteins.

I don't know how sensitivity to metals - e.g. nickel - fits into this.

My sister's dog, a black & tan german pinscher, the poor thing, she's
actually allergic to herself, and has skin problems if not bathed
regularly. It's a side-effect of a natural defense against insects, and
many humans are allergic to her sweat and saliva as well. I get a rash if
she slobbers on me and i don't wash up within a few minutes, and I've
never been allergic to any other animal. My brother Andrew gets a rash if
he pets her. And my brother Jens can't be in the same house as her.

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Eric Jorgensen wrote:

Food allergies are frequently protein sensitivities - the primary
example is nut allergy, where studies have repeatedly shown that people
with severe peanut allergies had no reaction to foods cooked with peanut
oil, if they didn't know it was there. Modern seed crushing and oil
extraction methods leave basically no protein present in consumer grade and
commercial grade oils - though i do remember some cloudy bottles of peanut
oil in my youth.


*Highly refined* hot-pressed peanut oil appears to be safe; cold pressed
oil (often called "gourmet") is not.

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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Eric Jorgensen wrote:

On 20 Dec 2004 21:52:42 GMT
(".") wrote:

Meringue powder = dried egg white.

But are people allergic to eggs allergic to the egg whites, the yolks or
both? Obviously, if you are allergic to the egg whites you are allergic
to meringue powder.

Food allergies are frequently protein sensitivities - the primary
example is nut allergy, where studies have repeatedly shown that people
with severe peanut allergies had no reaction to foods cooked with peanut
oil, if they didn't know it was there. Modern seed crushing and oil
extraction methods leave basically no protein present in consumer grade and
commercial grade oils - though i do remember some cloudy bottles of peanut
oil in my youth.

Albumen is pretty much protein and water, and the websites that come up
when you type "egg allergy" into google indicate that most egg
sensitivities are albumen sensitivities, though some are sensitive to the
yolk. Also that kids generally outgrow this sensitivity by the age of 5 or
so.

So, someone allergic to eggs is likely to be allergic to meringue
powder.

Interesting. I did a quick check and egg yolks have almost as much protein
as egg whites. So I guess there is a strong chance someone might be
allergic to both.

My wife's family has a lot of allergies. They try things every once in a
while just to see if they are still allergic. My brother-in-law is
anaphallaxic (sp?) to peanuts so he will not try that but he has tried
other things he was allergic to as a kid and found he is not allergic to
many of them now.

With parents these days, over-reacting to everything, it's entirely
possible that the kid is over it and they don't know because they've never
tried it again. But that's your neck to stick out, not mine. I do know a
family with kids that are sensitive to all sorts of things, including corn.
I am well acquainted with their family and believe their allergy issues to
be genuine.

I guess the people in my area are different. Everyone I know who has kids
is willing to test every so often. Mind you, we have free health care so I
can go to an allergist and get tested for free whenever I want.

People, and indeed animals, can be sensitive to just about anything.
Generally allergies are related to very large molecules, and nearly always
these are proteins.

I don't know how sensitivity to metals - e.g. nickel - fits into this.

What about shell fish? Is that a protein thing as well?

My sister's dog, a black & tan german pinscher, the poor thing, she's
actually allergic to herself, and has skin problems if not bathed
regularly. It's a side-effect of a natural defense against insects, and
many humans are allergic to her sweat and saliva as well. I get a rash if
she slobbers on me and i don't wash up within a few minutes, and I've
never been allergic to any other animal. My brother Andrew gets a rash if
he pets her. And my brother Jens can't be in the same house as her.

That is sad. I wonder if that is what is wrong with my dog. For the last
year or so he is always red and scratching. Maybe I need to bathe him more
often. Then we have the problem of dry skin. 8^(

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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Vox Humana wrote:

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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Vox Humana wrote:

""."" wrote in message
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Meringue powder = dried egg white.

But are people allergic to eggs allergic to the egg whites, the yolks or
both? Obviously, if you are allergic to the egg whites you are allergic
to meringue powder.

That's the $64,000 question. Do you want to experiment on someone's kids
after being told they are allergic to eggs? As I mentioned in an earlier
post, this has all the makings of litigation. I would want exact details.
What exactly are they allergic to? Who diagnosed it? What happens when
they eat eggs? Ultimately it wouldn't be worth the bother. I would just
ask the parent to give me a recipe. If it is a serious allergy they have
already solved the problem either by finding an acceptable recipe or
deciding not to eat eggs or nuts. Why reinvent the wheel when doing so may
put someone at risk of a serious reaction and subject yourself to
litigation? When someone tells you their kids are allergic to eggs and then
you feed them eggs, then you are probably willfully negligent. Insurance
companies often refuse to pay claims resulting from willful negligence. You
could lose your home over a cookie.

I'm not suggesting anyone experiment with some kid. Talking to the kid's
parents is a sensible choice but I wouldn't do it because I fear
litigation. Maybe the parents are willing to see if the kid is still
allergic to eggs. If it is not a severe allergy it might be worth trying.
They can just keep some Reactine or Aerius around to relieve the itching.

If it was a friend's kid I would be willing to put forth the effort. Then
again, I have never known anyone to sue anyone over something like this.

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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Vox Humana wrote:

""."" wrote in message
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Vox Humana wrote:

""."" wrote in message
...

Meringue powder = dried egg white.

But are people allergic to eggs allergic to the egg whites, the yolks or
both? Obviously, if you are allergic to the egg whites you are allergic
to meringue powder.

That's the $64,000 question. Do you want to experiment on someone's kids
after being told they are allergic to eggs? As I mentioned in an earlier
post, this has all the makings of litigation. I would want exact details.
What exactly are they allergic to? Who diagnosed it? What happens when
they eat eggs? Ultimately it wouldn't be worth the bother. I would just
ask the parent to give me a recipe. If it is a serious allergy they have
already solved the problem either by finding an acceptable recipe or
deciding not to eat eggs or nuts. Why reinvent the wheel when doing so may
put someone at risk of a serious reaction and subject yourself to
litigation? When someone tells you their kids are allergic to eggs and then
you feed them eggs, then you are probably willfully negligent. Insurance
companies often refuse to pay claims resulting from willful negligence. You
could lose your home over a cookie.

I'm not suggesting anyone experiment with some kid. Talking to the kid's
parents is a sensible choice but I wouldn't do it because I fear
litigation. Maybe the parents are willing to see if the kid is still
allergic to eggs. If it is not a severe allergy it might be worth trying.
They can just keep some Reactine or Aerius around to relieve the itching.

If it was a friend's kid I would be willing to put forth the effort. Then
again, I have never known anyone to sue anyone over something like this.

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