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Some folks use a picnic cooler with a small light inside--40W.
Others have used a heating pad--use a rack to elevate the bottom of the bowl above the pad--or use a light bulb again--then invert a box or wrap/cover in towels and blankets. I used to use my microwave--filled with quart jars of very hot water. Lately I just let it go natural in my cool house, ~64 degrees. It takes longer, but the bread tastes better! Many if the current bread gurus are touting the longer, cooler rise for making superior bread: more complex flavor elements need longer rises and cooler temperatures to developed. Some even "retard" bread development in the refrigerator overnight. See books by Peter Reinhart, Nancy Silverton, Carol Field, and several others. I have tried it and it really is the way to go. One can have a bread recipe going all the time if there is room in the 'fridge! Just fold it down once per day. I made a really good batch of pizza dough over a full week recently. When we finally stretched it out and used it, I could not believe the great elasticity of the dough---and the taste was the best! Let us know what method you use and what the results are. Barb "Fred" wrote in message . net... I learned how bakers proof bread at the culinary school today. I had a chance to use the big wet warm cabinet called a proofer. How do you do it at home? Do you just wait longer in cooler temperatures or is there some good way to produce the effects of a proofer in a home kitchen? Fred The Good Gourmet http://www.thegoodgourmet.com |
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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:54:00 -0700, Janet Bostwick wrote:
and nuttiness to the lean breads. There is no doubt that there is little to be gained in a retail or commercial baking setting by retarding proof as it is unlikely that you will be able to price up a loaf to reflect the lost production time. Well I worked in a retail bakery (13 outlets) and a small village type bakery. All the sourdough was retarded for 24hrs. in the larger operation. In the smaller one I would retard the final dough for up to three days. The consideration here was more one of cooler space/energy than production time which is off-set somewhat by the shorter mixing times. At home here I'm retarding the lean doughs for at least 36 hours, or should I say 36 hours in the frig, then another 12 hours til bake off. This is with 7-9lbs batches however. I think the trade off is frig energy vs production time gained because I don't use a pre-ferment so there is only one mix. It's just a drawn out straight-dough method without the 'punch downs'. One mix, one ferment, a long bench rest/proof, rounding/rest/proof, shaping, a final proof and there ya go. I think the quality of the bread is dramatically improved. The longer you can keep that dough fermenting and still hold structure and a final push the better the bread will be, no question at this end. |
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 00:24:31 -0500, Dee Randall wrote:
After I take it out of the refrigerator after and overnight and warm it up, it might take all day to rise, ALWAYS too darned lated to have bread even that day. I have found two things that do this. I'm using Instant yeast, if this comes in direct contact with cold water slows things down a lot. The other is adding the salt too soon after the yeast. With sourdough, if my starter isn't active enough, it has to be very active, the dough will just hang. |
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