"Eric Jorgensen" wrote in message
news:20040827102520.3e2584bc@wafer...
On 27 Aug 2004 08:03:02 -0700
(William Parrish) wrote:


NO. no. no.

If you simply twist the tie around the 'spun' section, the 'spun'
section will UNspin. You would have to double over the spun section,
THEN twist the tie around it. Don't you see? Try it.


*sigh* what you're overlooking here is the fact that mold spores are
going to collect in the bag.

Clearly, you should remove the bag entirely, place it inside another,
paper bag, staple that shut, throw it away, get out a new bag, re-bag the
bread, and then perform the above procedure.

Alternatively, you could start worrying about the way to hang rolls of
toilet paperg
Graham

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004, graham wrote:

Alternatively, you could start worrying about the way to hang rolls of
toilet paperg
Graham

What worry? There *is* only one way...

Dave

"Alex Rast" wrote in message
...
at Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:15:58 GMT in
,
(William Parrish) wrote :

My wife (and therefore, my children) and I have for years had this
nutty disagreement as to whether it is best to:

1.) Simply retwist the plastic or paper covered wire around the bag
(to, supposedly, reseal the bread)

or

2.) Hold the open end of the bread bag, spin the sucker, thereby
twisting the loose bread bag material (plastic of some sort?), and
laying the bread bag on top of the loose, twisted end so as to secure
the tightly twisted area.

Neither. IMHO the best is a combination of both. First, spin the bag as
per
Method 2. Then, get a twist tie and twist it tightly round the twisted
area
of the bag. This prevents untwisting and adds more seal.

Running argument at our house:
My spouse twists the bag (in a wild manly manner!) then puts the tie "ABOVE
the twists! It immediately untwists, of course. I say, why twist? This
makes me nuts! tee hee

at Fri, 27 Aug 2004 15:03:02 GMT in
,
(William Parrish) wrote :

(Alex Rast) wrote in message
.. .
at Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:15:58 GMT in
,
(William Parrish) wrote :

My wife (and therefore, my children) and I have for years had this
nutty disagreement as to whether it is best to:

1.) Simply retwist the plastic or paper covered wire around the bag
(to, supposedly, reseal the bread)

or

2.) Hold the open end of the bread bag, spin the sucker, ...and
laying the bread bag on top of the loose, twisted end ...

Neither. IMHO the best is a combination of both. First, spin the bag
as per Method 2. Then, get a twist tie and twist it tightly round the
twisted area of the bag. This prevents untwisting and adds more seal.

NO. no. no.

If you simply twist the tie around the 'spun' section, the 'spun'
section will UNspin. You would have to double over the spun section,
THEN twist the tie around it. Don't you see? Try it.

{Really, really pedantic response}

Only if you tie loosely, or use a very slippery twist-tie (e.g. a plastic
one). As I said, twist it *tightly*. You need really to be sure it's on
there well. Ideally, the edges of the tie will seat into the folds of the
twist, supplying a third locking/sealing mechanism. In any case, IME, with
a tightly twisted tie, the twist unspins a LOT less than when you lay the
bag over the open end.

Re. the paper bag and the freezing: We are talking about 4 to 7 days
here, so freezing isn't on the table... so to speak.

4-7 days? Freezing is then easily the way to go. In bread terms, that's
pretty "long-term". You can then take the daily bread you need out of the
bag an hour or so before using it. BTW, if you're toasting it, no need to
defrost. Simply put in the toaster at a slightly darker setting.

--
Alex Rast

(remove d., .7, not, and .NOSPAM to reply)

Eric Jorgensen wrote in message news:20040827102520.3e2584bc@wafer...
On 27 Aug 2004 08:03:02 -0700
(William Parrish) wrote:


NO. no. no.

If you simply twist the tie around the 'spun' section, the 'spun'
section will UNspin. You would have to double over the spun section,
THEN twist the tie around it. Don't you see? Try it.


*sigh* what you're overlooking here is the fact that mold spores are
going to collect in the bag.

Clearly, you should remove the bag entirely, place it inside another,
paper bag, staple that shut, throw it away, get out a new bag, re-bag the
bread, and then perform the above procedure.

OK. I must have gotten something wrong. Because after I threw away the bag...
AS YOU CLEARLY INSTRUCTED, ERIC, I then remembered the bread was IN the bag.
So, anyhow, that just don't work... or it was a trick.

"graham" wrote in message news:F1OXc.223364$M95.82128@pd7tw1no...
"Eric Jorgensen" wrote in message
news:20040827102520.3e2584bc@wafer...
On 27 Aug 2004 08:03:02 -0700
(William Parrish) wrote:


NO. no. no.

If you simply twist the tie around the 'spun' section, the 'spun'
section will UNspin. You would have to double over the spun section,
THEN twist the tie around it. Don't you see? Try it.


*sigh* what you're overlooking here is the fact that mold spores are
going to collect in the bag.

Clearly, you should remove the bag entirely, place it inside another,
paper bag, staple that shut, throw it away, get out a new bag, re-bag the
bread, and then perform the above procedure.

Alternatively, you could start worrying about the way to hang rolls of
toilet paperg
Graham


Toilet paper? We use bread.

"William Parrish" wrote in message
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"graham" wrote in message
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"Eric Jorgensen" wrote in message
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On 27 Aug 2004 08:03:02 -0700
(William Parrish) wrote:


Clearly, you should remove the bag entirely, place it inside
another,
paper bag, staple that shut, throw it away, get out a new bag, re-bag
the
bread, and then perform the above procedure.

Alternatively, you could start worrying about the way to hang rolls of
toilet paperg
Graham


Toilet paper? We use bread.

So that's why it's called "Wonder Bread" g

Graham

Dave Bell wrote in message area.net...
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004, graham wrote:

Alternatively, you could start worrying about the way to hang rolls of
toilet paperg
Graham

What worry? There *is* only one way...

Dave

OK, Dave and Graham:
You both are clearly getting very close to being out of bounds here, or
in I'netesse, OTS.
We had a very intelligent conversation going here and were getting very
close to resolving one of the major problems with marriage and then you
two obviously single dudes just jump in and spoil it all.
Now it's all ruined.
Shit!!!!

Dave Bell wrote in message area.net...
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004, graham wrote:

Alternatively, you could start worrying about the way to hang rolls of
toilet paperg
Graham

What worry? There *is* only one way...

Dave

OK, Dave and Graham:
You both are clearly getting very close to being out of bounds here, or
in I'netesse, OTS.
We had a very intelligent conversation going here and were getting very
close to resolving one of the major problems with marriage and then you
two obviously single dudes just jump in and spoil it all.
Now it's all ruined.
Shit!!!!

William Parrish wrote:

OK, Dave and Graham:
You both are clearly getting very close to being out of bounds here, or
in I'netesse, OTS.
We had a very intelligent conversation going here and were getting very
close to resolving one of the major problems with marriage and then you
two obviously single dudes just jump in and spoil it all.
Now it's all ruined.
Shit!!!!

Escuuuuse me?!? You should check that one with my wife and 4 kids!
(OK, only the three girls are still at home, but it does leave me
seriously outnumbered!)

Dave

(William Parrish) writes:

From: (William Parrish)
Newsgroups: rec.food.baking
Subject: Keeping Bread in the drawer
Date: 25 Aug 2004 10:15:58 -0700

My wife (and therefore, my children) and I have for years had this
nutty disagreement as to whether it is best to:

1.) Simply retwist the plastic or paper covered wire . . . or

2.) Hold the open end of the bread bag, spin the sucker, . . . and
laying the bread bag on top of the loose, twisted end


We use plastic clips which we keep in the bread box. They sell
them at the supermarket and most kitchenware stores for a nominal
price. They last for years. Usually get lost (no, I don't know
how) before they even start to wear out.

Like this:

http://www.westons.com/acatalog/Onli...Clips_592.html


They don't get all frayed like the paper-over-wire twist ties and their
colorful enough to be obvious if you forget to put one back on and leave it
on the countertop.

Also, if you are troubled by mold forming on your bread, you can obtain some
radioactive material from your favorite covert source and leave it in your
bread box or drawer. Also helpful for finding the bread in the dark when
you go into the kitchen for that late-night snack.

Cheers,
The Old Bear

(William Parrish) writes:

From: (William Parrish)
Newsgroups: rec.food.baking
Subject: Keeping Bread in the drawer
Date: 25 Aug 2004 10:15:58 -0700

My wife (and therefore, my children) and I have for years had this
nutty disagreement as to whether it is best to:

1.) Simply retwist the plastic or paper covered wire . . . or

2.) Hold the open end of the bread bag, spin the sucker, . . . and
laying the bread bag on top of the loose, twisted end


We use plastic clips which we keep in the bread box. They sell
them at the supermarket and most kitchenware stores for a nominal
price. They last for years. Usually get lost (no, I don't know
how) before they even start to wear out.

Like this:

http://www.westons.com/acatalog/Onli...Clips_592.html


They don't get all frayed like the paper-over-wire twist ties and their
colorful enough to be obvious if you forget to put one back on and leave it
on the countertop.

Also, if you are troubled by mold forming on your bread, you can obtain some
radioactive material from your favorite covert source and leave it in your
bread box or drawer. Also helpful for finding the bread in the dark when
you go into the kitchen for that late-night snack.

Cheers,
The Old Bear

(William Parrish) writes:

From: (William Parrish)
Newsgroups: rec.food.baking
Subject: Keeping Bread in the drawer
Date: 25 Aug 2004 10:15:58 -0700

My wife (and therefore, my children) and I have for years had this
nutty disagreement as to whether it is best to:

1.) Simply retwist the plastic or paper covered wire . . . or

2.) Hold the open end of the bread bag, spin the sucker, . . . and
laying the bread bag on top of the loose, twisted end


We use plastic clips which we keep in the bread box. They sell
them at the supermarket and most kitchenware stores for a nominal
price. They last for years. Usually get lost (no, I don't know
how) before they even start to wear out.

Like this:

http://www.westons.com/acatalog/Onli...Clips_592.html


They don't get all frayed like the paper-over-wire twist ties and their
colorful enough to be obvious if you forget to put one back on and leave it
on the countertop.

Also, if you are troubled by mold forming on your bread, you can obtain some
radioactive material from your favorite covert source and leave it in your
bread box or drawer. Also helpful for finding the bread in the dark when
you go into the kitchen for that late-night snack.

Cheers,
The Old Bear

"Dee Randall" deedoveyatshenteldotnet wrote in message ...
"Alex Rast" wrote in message
...
at Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:15:58 GMT in
,
(William Parrish) wrote :

My wife (and therefore, my children) and I have for years had this
nutty disagreement as to whether it is best to:

1.) Simply retwist the plastic or paper covered wire around the bag
(to, supposedly, reseal the bread)

or

2.) Hold the open end of the bread bag, spin the sucker, thereby
twisting the loose bread bag material (plastic of some sort?), and
laying the bread bag on top of the loose, twisted end so as to secure
the tightly twisted area.

Neither. IMHO the best is a combination of both. First, spin the bag as
per
Method 2. Then, get a twist tie and twist it tightly round the twisted
area
of the bag. This prevents untwisting and adds more seal.

Running argument at our house:
My spouse twists the bag (in a wild manly manner!) then puts the tie "ABOVE
the twists! It immediately untwists, of course. I say, why twist? This
makes me nuts! tee hee

Yes, that is lame. However, even if the tie is placed on or in the
twist the twist will UNtwist. The tie does not keep that from
happening. Don't you see?
You would have to twist the end in a section of several inches, bend
it and secure the 'bend' with the twist in order to keep the twist in
the end.
Probably too complicated for a woman. TEE HEE

"Dee Randall" deedoveyatshenteldotnet wrote in message ...
"Alex Rast" wrote in message
...
at Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:15:58 GMT in
,
(William Parrish) wrote :

My wife (and therefore, my children) and I have for years had this
nutty disagreement as to whether it is best to:

1.) Simply retwist the plastic or paper covered wire around the bag
(to, supposedly, reseal the bread)

or

2.) Hold the open end of the bread bag, spin the sucker, thereby
twisting the loose bread bag material (plastic of some sort?), and
laying the bread bag on top of the loose, twisted end so as to secure
the tightly twisted area.

Neither. IMHO the best is a combination of both. First, spin the bag as
per
Method 2. Then, get a twist tie and twist it tightly round the twisted
area
of the bag. This prevents untwisting and adds more seal.

Running argument at our house:
My spouse twists the bag (in a wild manly manner!) then puts the tie "ABOVE
the twists! It immediately untwists, of course. I say, why twist? This
makes me nuts! tee hee

Yes, that is lame. However, even if the tie is placed on or in the
twist the twist will UNtwist. The tie does not keep that from
happening. Don't you see?
You would have to twist the end in a section of several inches, bend
it and secure the 'bend' with the twist in order to keep the twist in
the end.
Probably too complicated for a woman. TEE HEE