I'm an old hat at bread machine baking. I've had two different machines
that worked great (Panasonic & Breadman). My Breadman machine pan has been
wearing out, so when I saw a nearly unused Hitachi for $15 at a thrift
store, I grabbed it. It's an HB-D102.

I've made two loaves so far, just white bread, neither rose much at all.
For the first loaf, I tried the rapid setting on an old recipe that had
worked well in the Breadman. I used lukewarm water. The second loaf, I
stuck to the white bread recipe in the manual (which recommended using
COLD water), & used the regular (not rapid) setting, and that one didn't
rise either. In fact it was even worse than the first loaf.

So my first question is what temperature should the water be?

Also, I've used unbleached white flour with success in the Breadman. Does
the Hitachi require actual bread flour?

Anyone have similar problems with this model? Any advice would be much
appreciated.

Thanks much,
Donna

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Donna Kossy

Not to be offensive.
Have you checked the yeast?
If you have followed your old and proved recipe or the one in the
manual and found the bread didn't rise, it seems to me that yeast is
the problem.
Maybe you can check if the yeast is still alive and you place the
ingredients in the right order (yeast is the last to put and cannot be
touched by salt or suger).
Hope you can succeed next time.

I don't know how this might help, but here goes, [I've had several bread
machines.]

Do you have instant yeast that you could try instead of active yeast?
In my bread machine, I use only instant yeast. I never proof my yeast.

I always put my ingredients in, in this order:

1)All wet ingredients,
(I never heat my water. I use room temperature regardless of my kitchen's
temperature.
{I don't use water from a tap, but if I did, I would let it become room
temperature in the winter}
2)then dry ingredients [I always used bread machine flour.]
3) then I make a indent in the flour or dry ingredients [on top]
4) then I put the instant yeast in this indent.

My opinion:
Perhaps the cold water was too cold for your active dry yeast. But since
you said that it was successful previously, perhaps the Hitachi's
temperature controls are off.

I have no knowledge of "rapid rise," but it suggests to me using extra
yeast. Maybe that's not so.

Wish you luck,
Dee









"Donna Kossy" wrote in message
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I'm an old hat at bread machine baking. I've had two different machines
that worked great (Panasonic & Breadman). My Breadman machine pan has been
wearing out, so when I saw a nearly unused Hitachi for $15 at a thrift
store, I grabbed it. It's an HB-D102.

I've made two loaves so far, just white bread, neither rose much at all.
For the first loaf, I tried the rapid setting on an old recipe that had
worked well in the Breadman. I used lukewarm water. The second loaf, I
stuck to the white bread recipe in the manual (which recommended using
COLD water), & used the regular (not rapid) setting, and that one didn't
rise either. In fact it was even worse than the first loaf.

So my first question is what temperature should the water be?

Also, I've used unbleached white flour with success in the Breadman. Does
the Hitachi require actual bread flour?

Anyone have similar problems with this model? Any advice would be much
appreciated.

Thanks much,
Donna

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Donna Kossy

Donna Kossy wrote:

I'm an old hat at bread machine baking. I've had two different machines
that worked great (Panasonic & Breadman). My Breadman machine pan has been
wearing out, so when I saw a nearly unused Hitachi for $15 at a thrift
store, I grabbed it. It's an HB-D102.

I've made two loaves so far, just white bread, neither rose much at all.
For the first loaf, I tried the rapid setting on an old recipe that had
worked well in the Breadman. I used lukewarm water. The second loaf, I
stuck to the white bread recipe in the manual (which recommended using
COLD water), & used the regular (not rapid) setting, and that one didn't
rise either. In fact it was even worse than the first loaf.

This is probably an obvious question, but have you made sure that the
machine's rise cycle is properly working? My sister had a defective
bread machine which would heat during the bake cycle but not during the
rise cycle, so all she got out of it was hockey pucks. She ended up
garage-saling it in hopes that someone could fix it.

HellT