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Old 23-11-2006, 03:30 PM posted to rec.food.baking
Nartker
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Default NYT Bread Article

I am a Culinary School Grad and an avid home baker, several weeks ago the
New York Times published an article on bread which has laid on my desk since
I downloaded it.

Last night I tried the method and the recipe that was published. I can
quibble with the recipe, but the method is flawless in its performance.

Basically it is a very slow rise of a wet dough, baked in a very hot,
preheated cloque. I used a 6 quart Le Crueset pot with the lid handle
removed backed in a 450 degree convection oven.

I recommended this method highly.

Now the question, can any one recommend a better vessel to bake in? This is
a brutal method for the Le Cresset.

The crust is very crisp nutty and sweet.


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Old 23-11-2006, 04:26 PM posted to rec.food.baking
Marcella Peek
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for a wedding gift years ago we received a bread baking cloche. Made
from unglazed pottery with base and lid you were to soak it in water and
then bake the bread in it. It did turn out a nice crust. However, it
was also recommended for baking chicken and that was beyond a pain to
clean out for further bread baking. Perhaps such a thing is still
available out there.

I did find something
similar....http://www.amazon.com/Sassafras-La-C.../dp/B00004S1D5

marcella

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" Nartker" wrote:

I am a Culinary School Grad and an avid home baker, several weeks ago the
New York Times published an article on bread which has laid on my desk since
I downloaded it.

Last night I tried the method and the recipe that was published. I can
quibble with the recipe, but the method is flawless in its performance.

Basically it is a very slow rise of a wet dough, baked in a very hot,
preheated cloque. I used a 6 quart Le Crueset pot with the lid handle
removed backed in a 450 degree convection oven.

I recommended this method highly.

Now the question, can any one recommend a better vessel to bake in? This is
a brutal method for the Le Cresset.

The crust is very crisp nutty and sweet.

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Old 23-11-2006, 05:25 PM posted to rec.food.baking
Boron Elgar[_1_]
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On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 08:30:56 -0600, " Nartker"
wrote:

I am a Culinary School Grad and an avid home baker, several weeks ago the
New York Times published an article on bread which has laid on my desk since
I downloaded it.

Last night I tried the method and the recipe that was published. I can
quibble with the recipe, but the method is flawless in its performance.

Basically it is a very slow rise of a wet dough, baked in a very hot,
preheated cloque. I used a 6 quart Le Crueset pot with the lid handle
removed backed in a 450 degree convection oven.

I recommended this method highly.

Now the question, can any one recommend a better vessel to bake in? This is
a brutal method for the Le Cresset.

The crust is very crisp nutty and sweet.



You can get a plain cast iron Dutch oven new for much less than the LC
ones. Most camping supply places have them.

In fact, you can often find them at garage sales.

Boron
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Old 23-11-2006, 08:14 PM posted to rec.food.baking
serene
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On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 08:30:56 -0600, " Nartker"
wrote:

Now the question, can any one recommend a better vessel to bake in? This is
a brutal method for the Le Cresset.


I'm just using a heavy stockpot with foil as a lid, and it's coming
out fine. I don't think it's fussy about which vessel is used.

Serene
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Old 23-11-2006, 08:29 PM posted to rec.food.baking
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You might try Lodge Mfg. It's the oldest and last maker of cast-iron
cookware in the US. The NYT had an article a few months ago about some chefs
who got together to find the best skillet for making an omelet. They tested
different kinds of skillets.The winner was LC and Lodge was a close second.
The LC skillet costs $90 and you can buy a 10" Lodge skillet at Wal-Mart for
less than $11.
http://www.lodgemfg.com/

" Nartker" wrote in message
...
I am a Culinary School Grad and an avid home baker, several weeks ago the
New York Times published an article on bread which has laid on my desk
since I downloaded it.

Last night I tried the method and the recipe that was published. I can
quibble with the recipe, but the method is flawless in its performance.

Basically it is a very slow rise of a wet dough, baked in a very hot,
preheated cloque. I used a 6 quart Le Crueset pot with the lid handle
removed backed in a 450 degree convection oven.

I recommended this method highly.

Now the question, can any one recommend a better vessel to bake in? This
is a brutal method for the Le Cresset.

The crust is very crisp nutty and sweet.



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Old 23-11-2006, 08:41 PM posted to rec.food.baking
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The Lodge skillet I mentioned is not the enameled one. Just a regular
cast-iron skillet. But it does come cured. It's great for baking cornbread
and if you leave it in the oven while it's pre-heating and then pour the
batter into the skillet it gives a nice, crisp crust on the bottom. A cast
iron skillet is usually recommended for making pineapple upside down cake.
Not sure why. It has many baking uses. See if your local library has a copy
of Cast-Iron Cooking for Dummies. If not, it costs about $12 on Amazon.

"FJM702" wrote in message
...
You might try Lodge Mfg. It's the oldest and last maker of cast-iron
cookware in the US. The NYT had an article a few months ago about some
chefs who got together to find the best skillet for making an omelet. They
tested different kinds of skillets.The winner was LC and Lodge was a close
second. The LC skillet costs $90 and you can buy a 10" Lodge skillet at
Wal-Mart for less than $11.
http://www.lodgemfg.com/

" Nartker" wrote in message
...
I am a Culinary School Grad and an avid home baker, several weeks ago the
New York Times published an article on bread which has laid on my desk
since I downloaded it.

Last night I tried the method and the recipe that was published. I can
quibble with the recipe, but the method is flawless in its performance.

Basically it is a very slow rise of a wet dough, baked in a very hot,
preheated cloque. I used a 6 quart Le Crueset pot with the lid handle
removed backed in a 450 degree convection oven.

I recommended this method highly.

Now the question, can any one recommend a better vessel to bake in? This
is a brutal method for the Le Cresset.

The crust is very crisp nutty and sweet.





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Old 23-11-2006, 09:33 PM posted to rec.food.baking
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My pot also took a beating. I went to a stone and covered it with a
heated metal bowl.Came out surprisingly good.

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Old 23-11-2006, 10:53 PM posted to rec.food.baking
Wayne Boatwright[_1_]
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Oh pshaw, on Thu 23 Nov 2006 01:33:43p, meant to say...

My pot also took a beating. I went to a stone and covered it with a
heated metal bowl.Came out surprisingly good.


I was going to give this a try after we moved and my Le Creuset pots were
unpacked, but they're in pristine condition, and I'd like to keep them that
way. I think I'll pick up a Lodge dutch oven for this.

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Old 26-11-2006, 02:09 AM posted to rec.food.baking
Charles Quinn
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Boron Elgar wrote in
:

On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 08:30:56 -0600, " Nartker"
wrote:

I am a Culinary School Grad and an avid home baker, several weeks ago
the New York Times published an article on bread which has laid on my
desk since I downloaded it.

Last night I tried the method and the recipe that was published. I
can quibble with the recipe, but the method is flawless in its
performance.

Basically it is a very slow rise of a wet dough, baked in a very hot,
preheated cloque. I used a 6 quart Le Crueset pot with the lid
handle removed backed in a 450 degree convection oven.

I recommended this method highly.

Now the question, can any one recommend a better vessel to bake in?
This is a brutal method for the Le Cresset.

The crust is very crisp nutty and sweet.



You can get a plain cast iron Dutch oven new for much less than the LC
ones. Most camping supply places have them.

In fact, you can often find them at garage sales.

Boron


I saw a LC knockoff at Target for $40, it was 4qt one.



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Charles
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at the same level of thinking we were at when we
created them. Albert Einstein

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Old 26-11-2006, 08:26 PM posted to rec.food.baking
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I don't understand; why is it hard on the Le Creuset? I use mine in the
oven all the time. Is it because of the dry heat?


" Nartker" wrote in message
...
I am a Culinary School Grad and an avid home baker, several weeks ago the
New York Times published an article on bread which has laid on my desk
since I downloaded it.

Last night I tried the method and the recipe that was published. I can
quibble with the recipe, but the method is flawless in its performance.

Basically it is a very slow rise of a wet dough, baked in a very hot,
preheated cloque. I used a 6 quart Le Crueset pot with the lid handle
removed backed in a 450 degree convection oven.

I recommended this method highly.

Now the question, can any one recommend a better vessel to bake in? This
is a brutal method for the Le Cresset.

The crust is very crisp nutty and sweet.



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Old 28-11-2006, 06:12 AM posted to rec.food.baking
Bob (this one)
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philosopher wrote:
I don't understand; why is it hard on the Le Creuset? I use mine in the
oven all the time. Is it because of the dry heat?


I can't imagine. It's a hunk of cast iron covered with what
is essentially glass. Seems to me it's designed for exactly
what we're using it for.

Pastorio





" Nartker" wrote in message
...
I am a Culinary School Grad and an avid home baker, several weeks ago the
New York Times published an article on bread which has laid on my desk
since I downloaded it.

Last night I tried the method and the recipe that was published. I can
quibble with the recipe, but the method is flawless in its performance.

Basically it is a very slow rise of a wet dough, baked in a very hot,
preheated cloque. I used a 6 quart Le Crueset pot with the lid handle
removed backed in a 450 degree convection oven.

I recommended this method highly.

Now the question, can any one recommend a better vessel to bake in? This
is a brutal method for the Le Cresset.

The crust is very crisp nutty and sweet.



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Old 28-11-2006, 04:07 PM posted to rec.food.baking
Chari
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Default NYT Bread Article

In article , says...
You might try Lodge Mfg. It's the oldest and last maker of cast-iron
cookware in the US. The NYT had an article a few months ago about some chefs
who got together to find the best skillet for making an omelet. They tested
different kinds of skillets.The winner was LC and Lodge was a close second.
The LC skillet costs $90 and you can buy a 10" Lodge skillet at Wal-Mart for
less than $11.
http://www.lodgemfg.com/

" Nartker" wrote in message
...
I am a Culinary School Grad and an avid home baker, several weeks ago the
New York Times published an article on bread which has laid on my desk
since I downloaded it.

Last night I tried the method and the recipe that was published. I can
quibble with the recipe, but the method is flawless in its performance.

Basically it is a very slow rise of a wet dough, baked in a very hot,
preheated cloque. I used a 6 quart Le Crueset pot with the lid handle
removed backed in a 450 degree convection oven.

I recommended this method highly.

Now the question, can any one recommend a better vessel to bake in? This
is a brutal method for the Le Cresset.

The crust is very crisp nutty and sweet.




I use a Lodge cast iron dutch oven for this. It was inexpensive (under
$15 at a local department store) and has it proven virtually
indestructable.
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Old 28-11-2006, 08:21 PM posted to rec.food.baking
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2006, Chari wrote:

I use a Lodge cast iron dutch oven for this. It was inexpensive (under
$15 at a local department store) and has it proven virtually
indestructable.


That sounds like a very good price! What size is it?
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Old 07-12-2006, 03:31 PM posted to rec.food.baking
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I have to agree completely with Boron - cast Iron. I baked the NYT
recipe in an old, seasoned, Wagner cast-iron, dutch oven, with a pyrex
lid (great for checking the browning process) and the results were
fantastic. picked the pot up it up at K-Mart for a less than 20
bucks. Used it maybe 5 times, in as many years, until the NY Times
article. Now it gets used 3-4 times a week ( I'm making bread for
family and neighbors, and definately need to get another one, or two).


Cheers,
Steve

 




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