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Old 28-09-2006, 06:29 PM posted to rec.food.baking
Frank103
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Default Pizza Crispper

Has anyone tried a pizza crispper? What were the results? I assume one does
not have to use a stone if one uses a crispper. Is that correct? Also, can a
pizza crispper be used for anything else? Possibly potatoes? Any help is
appreciated. Thanks
Frank


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Old 29-09-2006, 01:31 PM posted to rec.food.baking
Viviane[_1_]
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I've never heard of this. How does it work?

"Frank103" wrote in message
news:FDTSg.10890$iA5.1925@dukeread11...
Has anyone tried a pizza crispper? What were the results? I assume one
does not have to use a stone if one uses a crispper. Is that correct?
Also, can a pizza crispper be used for anything else? Possibly potatoes?
Any help is appreciated. Thanks
Frank



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Old 29-09-2006, 04:56 PM posted to rec.food.baking
Frank103
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Viviane, pizza crispers are made by several companies, Cuisinart, KitchenAid
etc. Here's a link to amazon that should answer any question you may. But it
doesn't answer the one question I have: What else can it be used for besides
pizza?
http://www.amazon.com/KitchenAid-II-.../dp/B00009XFWY

"Viviane" wrote in message
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I've never heard of this. How does it work?

"Frank103" wrote in message
news:FDTSg.10890$iA5.1925@dukeread11...
Has anyone tried a pizza crispper? What were the results? I assume one
does not have to use a stone if one uses a crispper. Is that correct?
Also, can a pizza crispper be used for anything else? Possibly potatoes?
Any help is appreciated. Thanks
Frank





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Old 29-09-2006, 05:05 PM posted to rec.food.baking
Frank103
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There are 5 reviews of the Cuisinart pizza crisper on Amazon and each person
gave it 5 stars. So maybe there's something to it. Or maybe each of the
reviewers worked for Cuisinart. Who knows? Decide for yourself.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/cus...4507&s=kitchen

"Frank103" wrote in message
news:MmbTg.11815$iA5.8384@dukeread11...
Viviane, pizza crispers are made by several companies, Cuisinart,
KitchenAid etc. Here's a link to amazon that should answer any question
you may. But it doesn't answer the one question I have: What else can it
be used for besides pizza?
http://www.amazon.com/KitchenAid-II-.../dp/B00009XFWY

"Viviane" wrote in message
...
I've never heard of this. How does it work?

"Frank103" wrote in message
news:FDTSg.10890$iA5.1925@dukeread11...
Has anyone tried a pizza crispper? What were the results? I assume one
does not have to use a stone if one uses a crispper. Is that correct?
Also, can a pizza crispper be used for anything else? Possibly potatoes?
Any help is appreciated. Thanks
Frank







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Old 29-09-2006, 08:12 PM posted to rec.food.baking
Eric Jorgensen
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On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 08:56:24 -0700
"Frank103" wrote:

Viviane, pizza crispers are made by several companies, Cuisinart,
KitchenAid etc. Here's a link to amazon that should answer any
question you may. But it doesn't answer the one question I have: What
else can it be used for besides pizza?



Anything you want to be exposed to the air in the oven on the bottom.

Obviously that excludes thin batters. The rest is up to you.

I've used something similar. It didn't give me the results I'd hoped
it would, and i found it to be difficult to clean - cheese and other
crud gets stuck in the holes. Mine had smaller holes than the one you
link to, and so was probably harder to clean.

I use a fibrament slab these days, but if i were to go that direction
again I would probably just go to a restaurant supply and buy some pizza
screens.
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Old 29-09-2006, 08:34 PM posted to rec.food.baking
Puester
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Frank103 wrote:
Viviane, pizza crispers are made by several companies, Cuisinart, KitchenAid
etc. Here's a link to amazon that should answer any question you may. But it
doesn't answer the one question I have: What else can it be used for besides
pizza?



You can use it on your outdoor grill for vegetables.

Another newsgroup posted that pizza can be reheated crisply in a
non-stick skillet on the stovetop.

gloria p
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Old 29-09-2006, 10:11 PM posted to rec.food.baking
Dave Bell
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On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Puester wrote:

Frank103 wrote:
Viviane, pizza crispers are made by several companies, Cuisinart, KitchenAid
etc. Here's a link to amazon that should answer any question you may. But it
doesn't answer the one question I have: What else can it be used for besides
pizza?



You can use it on your outdoor grill for vegetables.

Another newsgroup posted that pizza can be reheated crisply in a
non-stick skillet on the stovetop.

gloria p

Must be either anidea whose time is right, or another idiot like I was
calling myself:

I've been eating pizza, fresh and reheated, for probably over 40 years.
The other day, I tossed a couple slices in a skillet at lunch time. It
didn't hurt that the skillet had a tiny bit of browned butter film left
from breakfast, but I was kicking myself for not having thought of it
before! Works great with the lid on, as it warms the toppings through at
the same time the base crisps up...

Dave
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Old 30-09-2006, 12:45 AM posted to rec.food.baking
Kent
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Default Pizza Crispper


"Frank103" wrote in message
news:FDTSg.10890$iA5.1925@dukeread11...
Has anyone tried a pizza crispper? What were the results? I assume one
does not have to use a stone if one uses a crispper. Is that correct?
Also, can a pizza crispper be used for anything else? Possibly potatoes?
Any help is appreciated. Thanks
Frank


It can't work. You must have something that will hold heat to bake pizza.
You need a heavy stone. There is a striking difference between the 5lb stone
I bought at Macy's and the 30lb stone I bought at the local restaurant
supply house. Heat the stone up for a full 45 min. at 550F. The pizza should
cook in 6-8 minutes. Spray H2O mist in to mimick a baker's oven.

Kent
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Old 30-09-2006, 12:47 AM posted to rec.food.baking
Rina
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I use something similar on my grill for small items... veggies, scallops,
shrimp etc.


"Frank103" wrote in message
news:MmbTg.11815$iA5.8384@dukeread11...
Viviane, pizza crispers are made by several companies, Cuisinart,
KitchenAid etc. Here's a link to amazon that should answer any question
you may. But it doesn't answer the one question I have: What else can it
be used for besides pizza?



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Old 30-09-2006, 12:50 AM posted to rec.food.baking
Rina
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Did you ever try reheating french fries that way? I was making a hamburger
and remembered sole leftover restaurant fries, when I tossed them in the fry
pan they were great!


The other day, I tossed a couple slices in a skillet at lunch time. It
didn't hurt that the skillet had a tiny bit of browned butter film left
from breakfast, but I was kicking myself for not having thought of it
before!



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Old 30-09-2006, 02:30 AM posted to rec.food.baking
Ward Abbott
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On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:11:38 -0700, Dave Bell
wrote:

It
didn't hurt that the skillet had a tiny bit of browned butter film left
from breakfast, but I was kicking myself for not having thought of it
before!


I have been using the same Lodge cast iron skillet for thirty years
now. Didn't have to buy anything new either! It is the only was to
reheat pizza.





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Old 30-09-2006, 03:12 AM posted to rec.food.baking
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On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:45:02 -0700, "Kent" wrote:

.... Spray H2O mist in to mimick a baker's oven.


Have you ever seen a pizza place spray water into their ovens? I haven't.

Water vapor is used to crisp up the top crust of breads, including baguettes,
but that's about it. Don't see how it would do anyhthing for a pizza.

-- Larry
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Old 30-09-2006, 09:45 PM posted to rec.food.baking
Kent
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"pltrgyst" wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:45:02 -0700, "Kent" wrote:

.... Spray H2O mist in to mimick a baker's oven.


Have you ever seen a pizza place spray water into their ovens? I haven't.

Water vapor is used to crisp up the top crust of breads, including
baguettes,
but that's about it. Don't see how it would do anyhthing for a pizza.

-- Larry


Pizza places use a baker's oven, which sprays H20, creating a high humidity
environment. This crisps the crust, as it does with any bread. The mist at
home attempts to do the same thing. It does give you a crisper, more nicely
browned crust.

Kent


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Old 30-09-2006, 10:33 PM posted to rec.food.baking
Eric Jorgensen
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On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:45:20 -0700
"Kent" wrote:



Pizza places use a baker's oven, which sprays H20, creating a high
humidity environment. This crisps the crust, as it does with any
bread. The mist at home attempts to do the same thing. It does give
you a crisper, more nicely browned crust.



Good pizzarias use a pizza oven, with a deck temperature around 720
degrees, and a bake time around 90 seconds. The really good ones are
fired with fruit wood.

I've worked in the back at Pizzahut, and they use a conveyor
convection oven, at about 550 degrees, and a bake time of a few minutes.

In neither case is there any humidity enhancement, but the baking
conditions are far beyond normal baking conditions.
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Old 30-09-2006, 10:42 PM posted to rec.food.baking
pltrgyst[_1_]
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On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 15:33:30 -0600, Eric Jorgensen wrote:

On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:45:20 -0700
"Kent" wrote:

Pizza places use a baker's oven, which sprays H20, creating a high
humidity environment. This crisps the crust, as it does with any
bread. The mist at home attempts to do the same thing. It does give
you a crisper, more nicely browned crust.


Good pizzarias use a pizza oven, with a deck temperature around 720
degrees, and a bake time around 90 seconds. The really good ones are
fired with fruit wood.

I've worked in the back at Pizzahut, and they use a conveyor
convection oven, at about 550 degrees, and a bake time of a few minutes.

In neither case is there any humidity enhancement, but the baking
conditions are far beyond normal baking conditions.


I've checked both my favorite local piiza shops. One uses a wood over (Faccia
Luna), and one uses gas (Quattro Formaggi). Neither adds any moisture.

My home oven gets to 550 in convection mode, which does a very good job without
adding moisture. My wife does add moisture when she makes baguettes, usually in
the form of ice cubes into a try set on the bake stone.

My outdoor grill gets up to 700+ with all three burners blasting, which works
great for both grilled and bakestone pizzas. No moisture added in either case.

-- Larry
 




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