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salted ziganid fish(bagoong padas) mystery



 
 
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Old 15-01-2004, 11:51 AM
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On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 09:32:35 GMT, "Peter Dy"
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I think I'm born to love the Malaysian cuisine to death, but I have very
little experience in it, unfortunately.... But the more I read about it,
the better it gets. I'll need to head out there sometime.

Should you decide to do that, avoid those posh, classy eating joints.
Go for the ordinary local fare. The best would be to make friends with
a local Malaysian who knows where the good local food is. Don't trust
the tour guides too much. They usually take you to places where they
can get something out of it, so it's gonna cost you more, and it
doesn't mean the food is really good. I could email you the contact of
a friend of mine and he will be able give you the information you
need. But his specialty is in KL and Penang. You should not miss out
Malacca. Lots of cheap and good food there too. THat's where you get
the best cincalok.



Thanks for the help! I doubt, though, that I could head out there anytime
soon; though I'd love to, especially to visit Malacca... It will probably
Mexico again this summer, so I could finally bring my Spanish up to the
Advanced level (it's right there). And my little sister is saying I should
go with her to China, especially since the food scene is so awesome there
now. But I will be sure to check out Malaysia soon!

Peter


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Old 15-01-2004, 11:57 AM
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Pedas in Malay means hot/spicy & i don't know if it means the same in
Filipino... if it's any help.


Looking at a Tagalog dictionary, doesn't seem like it means that in
Filipino. Though, I wouldn't be surprised if it was so in some other of

the
many Filipino languages...


Yes i was thinking about that too, i don't know Tagalog at all except for

a
few words but i was thinking maybe the people living further south

(Palawan
& Sulu Sea) nearer to East Malaysia & Borneo/Indonesia.



Well, even up north, there are common words. "Bawang" (garlic) and
"kambing" (goat), for instance.


[...]
Yes you'll need to head out there sometime to really appreciate it. I
occasionally find the food in the city a little bland while in the

country,
you might be having jungle fodder like young wild fern tips, fried river
fish, fresh water prawns, jungle fowl etc. It's making the best from the
land & is always different.



Yeah, I'll head out there. In the meantime, I'll try out more Malaysian
dishes at home. What you describe reminds me of my trip to my home town in
the Philippines... And that's the only region in the country that regularly
features coconut milk and cilies, so the "bland city food" part you describe
rings true. (Though I love Manila.)

Peter


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Old 15-01-2004, 12:06 PM
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"Rona Yuthasastrakosol" wrote in message
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"Peter Dy" wrote in message
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Looking at a Tagalog dictionary, doesn't seem like it means that in
Filipino. Though, I wouldn't be surprised if it was so in some other of

the
many Filipino languages...

Anyway, most bagoong (fermented fish and shrimp) use rather small

critters.
The bagoong padas uses these nice, fingure-sized things, so I'm guessing
"padas" refers to that fish.


According to http://www.wholelattelove.com/articles.cfm?articleID=29 (7th
paragraph), you'd be right.

----begin paste----
These fish, which can be consumed fresh, unsalted or processed into

bagoong
are dilis (silver sprat), padas-1(fusescenes rabbitfish), padas 2

(forktail
rabbitfish), terong (fusiliers), alamang (shrimp fry) and dalagang bukid
(fusiliers).

----end paste----

My mother (who speaks Visayan) thinks it's fish, too.



Thanks, Rona! Have you ever had such large bagoong fish? I've only had
the tiny fish and shrimp versions.

Peter


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Old 17-01-2004, 03:30 AM
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On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:57:11 GMT, "Peter Dy"
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Well, even up north, there are common words. "Bawang" (garlic) and
"kambing" (goat), for instance.


Bawang is for onions. GArlic is called bawang putih (letrally means
white onions). Kambing refers to mutton. Could be goat or lamb.


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Old 17-01-2004, 03:47 AM
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On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:57:11 GMT, "Peter Dy"
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Well, even up north, there are common words. "Bawang" (garlic) and
"kambing" (goat), for instance.


Bawang is for onions. GArlic is called bawang putih (letrally means
white onions). Kambing refers to mutton. Could be goat or lamb.



Not in Talagog.

I was just saying that the languages (Philippine, Malay, Indonesian) are
related and have many cognates.

Peter


 




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