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Old 06-12-2003, 05:11 PM
Chris Van Krieken
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How long do fresh bamboo sprouts stay good in the fridge ?

Thanks,

Chris;



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Old 09-12-2003, 10:44 PM
Chris Van Krieken
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Thanks for the reply... do you know if you can deep freeze them ?
"Steve Wertz" schreef in bericht
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On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:11:55 GMT, "Chris Van Krieken"
wrote:

How long do fresh bamboo sprouts stay good in the fridge ?


In water, sliced or in sections, about 10-14 days.

-sw



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Old 10-12-2003, 09:07 AM
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Yes, of course, I mean shoots... I thought it was the same...
Sorry for my English.
Thanks for the replies...

Chris.

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 22:44:49 GMT, "Chris Van Krieken"
wrote:

Thanks for the reply... do you know if you can deep freeze them ?


They'll lose almost all of their texture once frozen.

I'm just now noticing you said 'sprouts'. You mean 'shoots', right?

-sw



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Old 10-12-2003, 10:18 PM
Tippi
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"Chris Van Krieken" wrote
Thanks for the reply... do you know if you can deep freeze them ?


As with many veggies, the only way to freeze them is to parboil them
first so they are mostly cooked. When thawed they will become much
softer than when fresh.
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Old 11-12-2003, 05:06 AM
Lawrence
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Jacky, no worries. It is the same.
Your English is better than some others here, it seems

From Oxford Dictionary...
sprout
· v. produce shoots. Ø grow (plant shoots or hair). Ø start to grow or
develop.
· n.
1 a shoot of a plant.
2 short for Brussels sprout.
– ORIGIN ME: of W. Gmc origin.

Jacky wrote:

Yes, of course, I mean shoots... I thought it was the same...
Sorry for my English.
Thanks for the replies...

Chris.

"Steve Wertz" wrote in message
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 22:44:49 GMT, "Chris Van Krieken"
wrote:

Thanks for the reply... do you know if you can deep freeze them ?


They'll lose almost all of their texture once frozen.

I'm just now noticing you said 'sprouts'. You mean 'shoots', right?

-sw


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Old 11-12-2003, 07:41 AM
Betty Lee
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Steve Wertz wrote:
+ Lawrence wrote:
+ Jacky, no worries. It is the same.
+ Your English is better than some others here, it seems
+
+ From Oxford Dictionary...
+ sprout
+ · v. produce shoots. Ø grow (plant shoots or hair). Ø start to grow or
+ develop.
+ · n.
+ 1 a shoot of a plant.
+ 2 short for Brussels sprout.
+ – ORIGIN ME: of W. Gmc origin.
+
+ Unfortunately, the dictionary definition isn't always the same as the
+ culinary interpretation.

Agreed. Technically, all fruits are vegetables, and some vegetables are
techincally fruit, but it's still a bit odd to call an apple a vegetable
or to call a bell pepper a fruit.

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Old 11-12-2003, 04:41 PM
Lawrence
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Steve Wertz wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:06:40 +0700, Lawrence
wrote:

Jacky, no worries. It is the same.
Your English is better than some others here, it seems

From Oxford Dictionary...
sprout
· v. produce shoots. Ø grow (plant shoots or hair). Ø start to grow or
develop.
· n.
1 a shoot of a plant.
2 short for Brussels sprout.
– ORIGIN ME: of W. Gmc origin.


Unfortunately, the dictionary definition isn't always the same as the
culinary interpretation.


Yes, if it was something other than bamboo, perhaps ;-)



-sw


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Old 11-12-2003, 06:31 PM
Ken Blake
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In ,
Betty Lee typed:

+ Unfortunately, the dictionary definition isn't always the

same as
the + culinary interpretation.

Agreed. Technically, all fruits are vegetables, and some

vegetables
are techincally fruit, but it's still a bit odd to call an

apple a
vegetable
or to call a bell pepper a fruit.



I agree with everything you say in principle, but since you used
the word "technically" when you said "technically, all fruits are
vegetables," I have to disagree (technically).

A fruit is the part of the plant that carries the seeds. From a
culinary standpoint, we think of a fruit as being something
edible, but many fruits aren't edible, so are therefore not
vegetables. For example, the dandelion head that goes flying in
the air on a breath of wind is a fruit, but certainly not a
vegetable.

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Old 12-12-2003, 11:24 AM
Betty Lee
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Ken Blake wrote:
+ Betty Lee typed:
+ + Unfortunately, the dictionary definition isn't always the same as
+ + the culinary interpretation.
+
+ Agreed. Technically, all fruits are vegetables, and some vegetables
+ are techincally fruit, but it's still a bit odd to call an apple a
+ vegetable or to call a bell pepper a fruit.
+
+ I agree with everything you say in principle, but since you used
+ the word "technically" when you said "technically, all fruits are
+ vegetables," I have to disagree (technically).
+
+ A fruit is the part of the plant that carries the seeds. From a
+ culinary standpoint, we think of a fruit as being something
+ edible, but many fruits aren't edible, so are therefore not
+ vegetables. For example, the dandelion head that goes flying in
+ the air on a breath of wind is a fruit, but certainly not a
+ vegetable.

Do I need a new dictionary? This one says that "vegetable" can simply
mean a member of kingdom Plantae. So, that dandelion head still
technically qualifies as a vegetable as far as this dictionary goes
(which agrees what my AP Bio teacher in high school said), even though
the common usage of "vegetable" implies that it's edible. Technically,
vegetables aren't required to be edible.

vegetable, noun [1582]

1) PLANT 1b
[snip]

plant, noun [before 12th century]

1) (a) a young tree, vine, shrub, or herb planted or suitable for
planting (b) any of a kingdom (Plantae) of living things typically
lacking locomotive movement or obvious nervous or sensory organs and
possessing cellulose cell walls

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Old 12-12-2003, 11:37 AM
Peter Dy
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"Betty Lee" wrote in message
...
Ken Blake wrote:
+ Betty Lee typed:
+ + Unfortunately, the dictionary definition isn't always the same as
+ + the culinary interpretation.
+
+ Agreed. Technically, all fruits are vegetables, and some vegetables
+ are techincally fruit, but it's still a bit odd to call an apple a
+ vegetable or to call a bell pepper a fruit.
+
+ I agree with everything you say in principle, but since you used
+ the word "technically" when you said "technically, all fruits are
+ vegetables," I have to disagree (technically).
+
+ A fruit is the part of the plant that carries the seeds. From a
+ culinary standpoint, we think of a fruit as being something
+ edible, but many fruits aren't edible, so are therefore not
+ vegetables. For example, the dandelion head that goes flying in
+ the air on a breath of wind is a fruit, but certainly not a
+ vegetable.

Do I need a new dictionary? This one says that "vegetable" can simply
mean a member of kingdom Plantae. So, that dandelion head still
technically qualifies as a vegetable as far as this dictionary goes
(which agrees what my AP Bio teacher in high school said), even though
the common usage of "vegetable" implies that it's edible. Technically,
vegetables aren't required to be edible.



I don't think the dictionary definition can be considered a technical
definition. As far as I know, botanists don't recognize "vegetable" to be a
technical term.

Pter


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Old 12-12-2003, 01:58 PM
KR
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I have a grandmother who made what she called "vitamin salad" - I think partly
as a result of one of the health food movements that swept through in the
early twentieth century - made up of lettuce, dandelion greens, radishes, mint,
chives, and various other herby things. ( Mustard, sorrel? ).

She was also a very enthusuastic eater of garlic and ate a raw clove every
day - enforced on may father and grandfather as well.

Best - krnntp

things on that

Steve Wertz wrote:

On 12 Dec 2003 05:07:43 GMT, wrote:


Steve Wertz wrote:

[]

I can't even stand the thought of dandelion anything. As a kid, we had
these every spring in the yard, and they emitted this milky white sap
that's probably the second worse-tasting thing known to man: really
bitter.

I don't see how any oither part of the plant could be different, so
apparently thre must be different varieties. The ones in my yard
though, were far from edible.


Brace yerself, Steve. The leaves, harvested before the flowers appear are
used in salads, wilted in sauteed garlic, and other dishes. I admit, I've
never had them, but I didn't eat the milky white sap either! g



I've heard of people using dandelion greens and I think -- EEEchhhk.

-sw


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Old 12-12-2003, 04:53 PM
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In ,
Frogleg typed:

I've heard of people using dandelion greens and I think --

EEEchhhk.

Worse, there are stores that *sell* dandelion greens! Yes,

there are.


Many do. I buy them often.


I find most 'wild' edible greens rather bitter -- don't care

much for
arugula, either, at least as a salad green. A little goes a

long way.


I like both dandelion greens and arugula in salads. I wouldn't
want a salad mde up entirely of either one, but a little is very
good. I like that bitterness, and find salads without it to be
very dull.

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Old 12-12-2003, 05:03 PM
Ken Blake
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In ,
Betty Lee typed:

Ken Blake wrote:


+ A fruit is the part of the plant that carries the seeds. From

a
+ culinary standpoint, we think of a fruit as being something
+ edible, but many fruits aren't edible, so are therefore not
+ vegetables. For example, the dandelion head that goes flying

in
+ the air on a breath of wind is a fruit, but certainly not a
+ vegetable.

Do I need a new dictionary? This one says that "vegetable" can

simply
mean a member of kingdom Plantae. So, that dandelion head

still
technically qualifies as a vegetable as far as this dictionary

goes
(which agrees what my AP Bio teacher in high school said), even

though
the common usage of "vegetable" implies that it's edible.
Technically, vegetables aren't required to be edible.



Well, the problem is that dictionaries are history
books--histories of words--and like most historians, those who
write dictionaries often disagree. I don't know what dictionary
you quoted from, but here's the definition in the Random House
Dictionary (a widely used, well respected one): "any herbaceous
plant whose fruit, seeds, roots, tubers, bulbs, stems, leaves, or
flower parts are used for food."

Each to his own, of course, but I think calling something
inedible a vegeatble is bizarre.

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Old 12-12-2003, 08:05 PM
Frogleg
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As a gardener, I wouldn't call bamboo shoots "sprouts". No dictionary
def, but to me a "sprout" is a sprouted seed with perhaps 2 true
leaves. After that, it becomes a plant.

However, what *are* bamboo shoots? Some in cans appear to be sliced
from a rather large stalk/whatever. I'm guessing they're supposed to
be slices from the tender base of new growth.
 




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