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Thanks for the reply... do you know if you can deep freeze them ?
"Steve Wertz" schreef in bericht ... On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:11:55 GMT, "Chris Van Krieken" wrote: How long do fresh bamboo sprouts stay good in the fridge ? In water, sliced or in sections, about 10-14 days. -sw |
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Yes, of course, I mean shoots... I thought it was the same...
Sorry for my English. Thanks for the replies... Chris. "Steve Wertz" wrote in message ... On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 22:44:49 GMT, "Chris Van Krieken" wrote: Thanks for the reply... do you know if you can deep freeze them ? They'll lose almost all of their texture once frozen. I'm just now noticing you said 'sprouts'. You mean 'shoots', right? -sw |
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"Chris Van Krieken" wrote
Thanks for the reply... do you know if you can deep freeze them ? As with many veggies, the only way to freeze them is to parboil them first so they are mostly cooked. When thawed they will become much softer than when fresh. |
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Jacky, no worries. It is the same.
Your English is better than some others here, it seems ![]() From Oxford Dictionary... sprout · v. produce shoots. Ø grow (plant shoots or hair). Ø start to grow or develop. · n. 1 a shoot of a plant. 2 short for Brussels sprout. – ORIGIN ME: of W. Gmc origin. Jacky wrote: Yes, of course, I mean shoots... I thought it was the same... Sorry for my English. Thanks for the replies... Chris. "Steve Wertz" wrote in message ... On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 22:44:49 GMT, "Chris Van Krieken" wrote: Thanks for the reply... do you know if you can deep freeze them ? They'll lose almost all of their texture once frozen. I'm just now noticing you said 'sprouts'. You mean 'shoots', right? -sw |
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Steve Wertz wrote:
+ Lawrence wrote: + Jacky, no worries. It is the same. + Your English is better than some others here, it seems ![]() + + From Oxford Dictionary... + sprout + · v. produce shoots. Ø grow (plant shoots or hair). Ø start to grow or + develop. + · n. + 1 a shoot of a plant. + 2 short for Brussels sprout. + – ORIGIN ME: of W. Gmc origin. + + Unfortunately, the dictionary definition isn't always the same as the + culinary interpretation. Agreed. Technically, all fruits are vegetables, and some vegetables are techincally fruit, but it's still a bit odd to call an apple a vegetable or to call a bell pepper a fruit. |
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Steve Wertz wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:06:40 +0700, Lawrence wrote: Jacky, no worries. It is the same. Your English is better than some others here, it seems ![]() From Oxford Dictionary... sprout · v. produce shoots. Ø grow (plant shoots or hair). Ø start to grow or develop. · n. 1 a shoot of a plant. 2 short for Brussels sprout. – ORIGIN ME: of W. Gmc origin. Unfortunately, the dictionary definition isn't always the same as the culinary interpretation. Yes, if it was something other than bamboo, perhaps ;-) -sw |
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Betty Lee typed: + Unfortunately, the dictionary definition isn't always the same as the + culinary interpretation. Agreed. Technically, all fruits are vegetables, and some vegetables are techincally fruit, but it's still a bit odd to call an apple a vegetable or to call a bell pepper a fruit. I agree with everything you say in principle, but since you used the word "technically" when you said "technically, all fruits are vegetables," I have to disagree (technically). A fruit is the part of the plant that carries the seeds. From a culinary standpoint, we think of a fruit as being something edible, but many fruits aren't edible, so are therefore not vegetables. For example, the dandelion head that goes flying in the air on a breath of wind is a fruit, but certainly not a vegetable. -- Ken Blake Please reply to the newsgroup |
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Ken Blake wrote:
+ Betty Lee typed: + + Unfortunately, the dictionary definition isn't always the same as + + the culinary interpretation. + + Agreed. Technically, all fruits are vegetables, and some vegetables + are techincally fruit, but it's still a bit odd to call an apple a + vegetable or to call a bell pepper a fruit. + + I agree with everything you say in principle, but since you used + the word "technically" when you said "technically, all fruits are + vegetables," I have to disagree (technically). + + A fruit is the part of the plant that carries the seeds. From a + culinary standpoint, we think of a fruit as being something + edible, but many fruits aren't edible, so are therefore not + vegetables. For example, the dandelion head that goes flying in + the air on a breath of wind is a fruit, but certainly not a + vegetable. Do I need a new dictionary? This one says that "vegetable" can simply mean a member of kingdom Plantae. So, that dandelion head still technically qualifies as a vegetable as far as this dictionary goes (which agrees what my AP Bio teacher in high school said), even though the common usage of "vegetable" implies that it's edible. Technically, vegetables aren't required to be edible. vegetable, noun [1582] 1) PLANT 1b [snip] plant, noun [before 12th century] 1) (a) a young tree, vine, shrub, or herb planted or suitable for planting (b) any of a kingdom (Plantae) of living things typically lacking locomotive movement or obvious nervous or sensory organs and possessing cellulose cell walls |
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"Betty Lee" wrote in message ... Ken Blake wrote: + Betty Lee typed: + + Unfortunately, the dictionary definition isn't always the same as + + the culinary interpretation. + + Agreed. Technically, all fruits are vegetables, and some vegetables + are techincally fruit, but it's still a bit odd to call an apple a + vegetable or to call a bell pepper a fruit. + + I agree with everything you say in principle, but since you used + the word "technically" when you said "technically, all fruits are + vegetables," I have to disagree (technically). + + A fruit is the part of the plant that carries the seeds. From a + culinary standpoint, we think of a fruit as being something + edible, but many fruits aren't edible, so are therefore not + vegetables. For example, the dandelion head that goes flying in + the air on a breath of wind is a fruit, but certainly not a + vegetable. Do I need a new dictionary? This one says that "vegetable" can simply mean a member of kingdom Plantae. So, that dandelion head still technically qualifies as a vegetable as far as this dictionary goes (which agrees what my AP Bio teacher in high school said), even though the common usage of "vegetable" implies that it's edible. Technically, vegetables aren't required to be edible. I don't think the dictionary definition can be considered a technical definition. As far as I know, botanists don't recognize "vegetable" to be a technical term. Pter |
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:26:53 -0600, Steve Wertz
wrote: On 12 Dec 2003 05:07:43 GMT, wrote: Brace yerself, Steve. The leaves, harvested before the flowers appear are used in salads, wilted in sauteed garlic, and other dishes. I admit, I've never had them, but I didn't eat the milky white sap either! g I've heard of people using dandelion greens and I think -- EEEchhhk. Worse, there are stores that *sell* dandelion greens! Yes, there are. I find most 'wild' edible greens rather bitter -- don't care much for arugula, either, at least as a salad green. A little goes a long way. |
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Frogleg typed: I've heard of people using dandelion greens and I think -- EEEchhhk. Worse, there are stores that *sell* dandelion greens! Yes, there are. Many do. I buy them often. I find most 'wild' edible greens rather bitter -- don't care much for arugula, either, at least as a salad green. A little goes a long way. I like both dandelion greens and arugula in salads. I wouldn't want a salad mde up entirely of either one, but a little is very good. I like that bitterness, and find salads without it to be very dull. -- Ken Blake Please reply to the newsgroup |
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Betty Lee typed: Ken Blake wrote: + A fruit is the part of the plant that carries the seeds. From a + culinary standpoint, we think of a fruit as being something + edible, but many fruits aren't edible, so are therefore not + vegetables. For example, the dandelion head that goes flying in + the air on a breath of wind is a fruit, but certainly not a + vegetable. Do I need a new dictionary? This one says that "vegetable" can simply mean a member of kingdom Plantae. So, that dandelion head still technically qualifies as a vegetable as far as this dictionary goes (which agrees what my AP Bio teacher in high school said), even though the common usage of "vegetable" implies that it's edible. Technically, vegetables aren't required to be edible. Well, the problem is that dictionaries are history books--histories of words--and like most historians, those who write dictionaries often disagree. I don't know what dictionary you quoted from, but here's the definition in the Random House Dictionary (a widely used, well respected one): "any herbaceous plant whose fruit, seeds, roots, tubers, bulbs, stems, leaves, or flower parts are used for food." Each to his own, of course, but I think calling something inedible a vegeatble is bizarre. -- Ken Blake Please reply to the newsgroup |
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As a gardener, I wouldn't call bamboo shoots "sprouts". No dictionary
def, but to me a "sprout" is a sprouted seed with perhaps 2 true leaves. After that, it becomes a plant. However, what *are* bamboo shoots? Some in cans appear to be sliced from a rather large stalk/whatever. I'm guessing they're supposed to be slices from the tender base of new growth. |
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