![]() |
|
Welcome to FoodBanter.com forums which provide access to the finest food and drink related newsgroups. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most newsgroup discussions and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics to the food related newsgroups, communicate privately with other FoodBanter.com members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact support. |
|
|||||||
| Asian Cooking (alt.food.asian) A newsgroup for the discussion of recipes, ingredients, equipment and techniques used specifically in the preparation of Asian foods. |
|
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | Display Modes |
|
|||
|
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:47:03 -0600, Sqwertz
wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 10:11:08 -0600, Asia wrote: What are the major differences in Schezwan and Cantonese cuisine and what are the major ingridients used in both. I would like someone from China to answer this Well, I could tell you this, But I'm not in China so I don't fir your prejudiced requirements. -sw besides, how many americans would read alt.food.american? your pal, blake |
|
|||
|
On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:32:43 GMT, blake murphy
wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:47:03 -0600, Sqwertz wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 10:11:08 -0600, Asia wrote: What are the major differences in Schezwan and Cantonese cuisine and what are the major ingridients used in both. I would like someone from China to answer this Well, I could tell you this, But I'm not in China so I don't fir your prejudiced requirements. -sw besides, how many americans would read alt.food.american? your pal, blake actually, those interested in regional differences in cuisine would find more variety in the US; not just because of geography influencing native ingredients, etc. but because of the varying cultures of the immigrants. and since my family is originally from southern china, i'll point out that any cuisine near a coast is likely to have more seafood in the cuisine and this is true for cantonese & chiu chow cuisines. also, rice tends to be more a staple crop near water & a wamer climate; a lot of rice is grown in the gulf coast, the mississippi delta, arkansas, and (oddly enough) the sacramento valley in northern CA (major irrigation), whereas the landlocked states tend to produce wheat (and corn - which isn't common in china). similarly, in inland china (like in the schezuan province, wheat is the staple crop, so you should expect to find breads and noodles instead of rice. most chinese do not eat rice. i expect this to be more of a surprise since the primary "chinese" cuisine seen in the states tends to be cantonese due to the emigration/immigration patterns. regardless of the region, there will always be an emphasis on balance with texture complementing tastes, which tends to be a foreign concept in western cuisines. as to the reputed spiciness of nothern cuisines, this tends to be true, but asians in general tend to combine hot spices with foods that have a texture/mouth feel that could be described as slippery. this is not limited to chinese cuisine - udon or tofu is often ornamented by yuzukosho (a citrus pepper sauce). i am not saying that this is the only reason - i suspect that the origins are similar to that of chili - without refrigeration, spicing up meat past its prime might have been a way to make it palatable. also, the alkaloid capsaicin (sp?) is known to have an effect on the body's ability to regulate temperature - and you can find spicy cuisines in regions where the weather could be considered unbearably hot. but this is merely conjecture on my part. -------- "any words spelled incorrectly are probably typing errors" |
|
|||
|
Thanks Barry for these insights.
I knew that Schezwan tends to be spicier than the Cantonese but didn't know that rice is not the main carb of China. "barry" wrote in message ... On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:32:43 GMT, blake murphy wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:47:03 -0600, Sqwertz wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 10:11:08 -0600, Asia wrote: What are the major differences in Schezwan and Cantonese cuisine and what are the major ingridients used in both. I would like someone from China to answer this Well, I could tell you this, But I'm not in China so I don't fir your prejudiced requirements. -sw besides, how many americans would read alt.food.american? your pal, blake actually, those interested in regional differences in cuisine would find more variety in the US; not just because of geography influencing native ingredients, etc. but because of the varying cultures of the immigrants. and since my family is originally from southern china, i'll point out that any cuisine near a coast is likely to have more seafood in the cuisine and this is true for cantonese & chiu chow cuisines. also, rice tends to be more a staple crop near water & a wamer climate; a lot of rice is grown in the gulf coast, the mississippi delta, arkansas, and (oddly enough) the sacramento valley in northern CA (major irrigation), whereas the landlocked states tend to produce wheat (and corn - which isn't common in china). similarly, in inland china (like in the schezuan province, wheat is the staple crop, so you should expect to find breads and noodles instead of rice. most chinese do not eat rice. i expect this to be more of a surprise since the primary "chinese" cuisine seen in the states tends to be cantonese due to the emigration/immigration patterns. regardless of the region, there will always be an emphasis on balance with texture complementing tastes, which tends to be a foreign concept in western cuisines. as to the reputed spiciness of nothern cuisines, this tends to be true, but asians in general tend to combine hot spices with foods that have a texture/mouth feel that could be described as slippery. this is not limited to chinese cuisine - udon or tofu is often ornamented by yuzukosho (a citrus pepper sauce). i am not saying that this is the only reason - i suspect that the origins are similar to that of chili - without refrigeration, spicing up meat past its prime might have been a way to make it palatable. also, the alkaloid capsaicin (sp?) is known to have an effect on the body's ability to regulate temperature - and you can find spicy cuisines in regions where the weather could be considered unbearably hot. but this is merely conjecture on my part. -------- "any words spelled incorrectly are probably typing errors" |
|
|||
|
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:46:22 -0600, Sqwertz
wrote: On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:32:43 GMT, blake murphy wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:47:03 -0600, Sqwertz wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 10:11:08 -0600, Asia wrote: What are the major differences in Schezwan and Cantonese cuisine and what are the major ingridients used in both. I would like someone from China to answer this Well, I could tell you this, But I'm not in China so I don't fir your prejudiced requirements. besides, how many americans would read alt.food.american? We have quite a few Asians that hang out here, but there's more Americans (like me) that know a lot about Chinese foods rather than actual Chinese - none of which ever post from China. It's been my experience that people from one part of a country quite often know less about another region's cusine than non-natives who are "into" that country's cousine. I grew up in a Sicilian neighborhood and damn few would have any idea about polenta or risotto. SImilarly those from southern China or India have little knowledge of their northern counterparts' ingredients cooking techniques. I know very few northern US folks who have any idea what country ham is, or grits, or pot licker, etc. ------------ There are no atheists in foxholes or in Fenway Park in an extra inning game. ____ Cape Cod Bob Delete the two "spam"s for email |
|
|||
|
On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:49:09 GMT, Sqwertz
wrote: On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:59:10 GMT, Asia wrote: Thanks Barry for these insights. I knew that Schezwan tends to be spicier than the Cantonese but didn't know that rice is not the main carb of China. I have read a lot of Chinese food and culture books and there is no way a lone person on Usenet can convice me that "most Chinese people do not eat rice". That is just plain bull. -sw it may not be most, but it's more than you were ever aware of, which refutes your first obnoxious commment. -------- "any words spelled incorrectly are probably typing errors" |
|
|||
|
I knew that Schezwan tends to be spicier than the Cantonese but didn't know
that rice is not the main carb of China. Rice does not grow above a certain latitude. It is said that south of Shanghai, rice is the staple, where as wheat is staple for north of Shanghai, and that city has a mix of both. Since the northern portion of China is larger in area than the southern, it could be argued that more Chinese eat wheat as a staple compared to those who eat rice. |
|
|||
|
On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:33:46 -0800 (PST), Tippi
wrote: I knew that Schezwan tends to be spicier than the Cantonese but didn't know that rice is not the main carb of China. Rice does not grow above a certain latitude. It is said that south of Shanghai, rice is the staple, where as wheat is staple for north of Shanghai, and that city has a mix of both. Since the northern portion of China is larger in area than the southern, it could be argued that more Chinese eat wheat as a staple compared to those who eat rice. I know nothing about whether there is more rice eaten than wheat in China or vice versa, but that argument doesn't hold water. Being larger in area doesn't mean that there are more people north of Shanghai than south of it. I believe that the south is considerably more densely populated than the North. That's not to say that there are more people in the south than the north, either. I don't know. My only point is that you can't find out simply by looking at a map. -- Ken Blake Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
|
|||
|
actually, those interested in regional differences in cuisine would find more variety in the US; not just because of geography influencing native ingredients, etc. but because of the varying cultures of the immigrants. Friends, As someone who lives in Queens County, New York (NYC)--the immigration capital of North America (or is it the World?), I would have to agree with this, I can find almost any ingredient, spice, vegetable, sauce, or food stuff that I can imagine if I look hard enough for it. This is due to the immigrants that flock into NYC from all of the prefectures/provinces of China and Taiwan/Hong Kong/Tibet (please no politics here!). The simple truth is the immigrants come to a city, set up the supply lines from the old country, and everyone enjoys in the bounty. |