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I am interested in cooking a couple of times a week using sesame oil -- not
the heavy, toasted thicker type, but the thinner oil that often sells in a larger tin can. I have purchased this before and let it go completely to waste as my Asian cooking skills are not the highest. I am wondering if there is an easy, common dish (other than braised greens and tofu) that I can incorporate into my menu once or twice a week -- and possibly even a dish that would go with just about any American/English style meal -- although I do cook, Thai and Indian and Italian. Thanks. Dee |
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"Dee Randall" wrote: I am interested in cooking a couple of times a week using sesame oil -- not the heavy, toasted thicker type, but the thinner oil that often sells in a larger tin can. I have purchased this before and let it go completely to waste as my Asian cooking skills are not the highest. I am wondering if there is an easy, common dish (other than braised greens and tofu) that I can incorporate into my menu once or twice a week -- and possibly even a dish that would go with just about any American/English style meal -- although I do cook, Thai and Indian and Italian. Thanks. Dee AS Tempura fry oil it is so delicious. Tempura batter: 1 cup cake flour 1 cup 1 egg and water(cold) mix lightly and voila it is ready to go heat the oil to 175 C degree and dip in any kind of ingredients as you wish lightly in the batter and fry any sauce will go with it, simply tasty salt(natural) is a good company. MB |
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"MB" wrote in message ... "Dee Randall" wrote: I am interested in cooking a couple of times a week using sesame oil -- not the heavy, toasted thicker type, but the thinner oil that often sells in a larger tin can. I have purchased this before and let it go completely to waste as my Asian cooking skills are not the highest. I am wondering if there is an easy, common dish (other than braised greens and tofu) that I can incorporate into my menu once or twice a week -- and possibly even a dish that would go with just about any American/English style meal -- although I do cook, Thai and Indian and Italian. Thanks. Dee AS Tempura fry oil it is so delicious. Tempura batter: 1 cup cake flour 1 cup 1 egg and water(cold) mix lightly and voila it is ready to go heat the oil to 175 C degree and dip in any kind of ingredients as you wish lightly in the batter and fry any sauce will go with it, simply tasty salt(natural) is a good company. MB Thanks for this suggestion to fry in sesame oil. I would've never thought to do this. Dee |
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MB wrote:
"Dee Randall" wrote: I am interested in cooking a couple of times a week using sesame oil -- not the heavy, toasted thicker type, but the thinner oil that often sells in a larger tin can. I have purchased this before and let it go completely to waste as my Asian cooking skills are not the highest. I am wondering if there is an easy, common dish (other than braised greens and tofu) that I can incorporate into my menu once or twice a week -- and possibly even a dish that would go with just about any American/English style meal -- although I do cook, Thai and Indian and Italian. Thanks. Dee AS Tempura fry oil it is so delicious. Tempura batter: 1 cup cake flour 1 cup 1 egg and water(cold) mix lightly and voila it is ready to go heat the oil to 175 C degree and dip in any kind of ingredients as you wish lightly in the batter and fry any sauce will go with it, simply tasty salt(natural) is a good company. Be careful. Sesame oil has a low smoke point and will burn more easily than peanut or corn oil. -- Dan |
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"Dan Logcher" wrote in message ... MB wrote: "Dee Randall" wrote: I am interested in cooking a couple of times a week using sesame oil -- not the heavy, toasted thicker type, but the thinner oil that often sells in a larger tin can. I have purchased this before and let it go completely to waste as my Asian cooking skills are not the highest. I am wondering if there is an easy, common dish (other than braised greens and tofu) that I can incorporate into my menu once or twice a week -- and possibly even a dish that would go with just about any American/English style meal -- although I do cook, Thai and Indian and Italian. Thanks. Dee AS Tempura fry oil it is so delicious. Tempura batter: 1 cup cake flour 1 cup 1 egg and water(cold) mix lightly and voila it is ready to go heat the oil to 175 C degree and dip in any kind of ingredients as you wish lightly in the batter and fry any sauce will go with it, simply tasty salt(natural) is a good company. Be careful. Sesame oil has a low smoke point and will burn more easily than peanut or corn oil. -- Dan Thanks, Dan. I see by a chart that 175C is 347ºF. Dee |
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:17:31 -0500, "Dee Randall"
wrote: "Dan Logcher" wrote in message ... MB wrote: "Dee Randall" wrote: I am interested in cooking a couple of times a week using sesame oil -- not the heavy, toasted thicker type, but the thinner oil that often sells in a larger tin can. I have purchased this before and let it go completely to waste as my Asian cooking skills are not the highest. I am wondering if there is an easy, common dish (other than braised greens and tofu) that I can incorporate into my menu once or twice a week -- and possibly even a dish that would go with just about any American/English style meal -- although I do cook, Thai and Indian and Italian. Thanks. Dee AS Tempura fry oil it is so delicious. Tempura batter: 1 cup cake flour 1 cup 1 egg and water(cold) mix lightly and voila it is ready to go heat the oil to 175 C degree and dip in any kind of ingredients as you wish lightly in the batter and fry any sauce will go with it, simply tasty salt(natural) is a good company. Be careful. Sesame oil has a low smoke point and will burn more easily than peanut or corn oil. Thanks, Dan. I see by a chart that 175C is 347ºF. A little sesame oil goes a long way when it comes to flavoring whatever you are making, but since you aren't using toasted sesame oil that would be less of a factor. However, to solve the smoke point problem as well as avoiding having everything taste only of sesame, I would mix the sesame oil with peanut or vegatable oil if I was frying or sauteeing. You could experiment with the amounts but 60/40 would be a good place to start. I use toasted sesame oil with rice wine vinegar and ginger as an alternative salad dressing. It's especially good with some tuna or chicken mixed in along with chopped green onions and slivered carrots. |
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"Jed" wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:17:31 -0500, "Dee Randall" wrote: "Dan Logcher" wrote in message ... MB wrote: "Dee Randall" wrote: I am interested in cooking a couple of times a week using sesame oil -- not the heavy, toasted thicker type, but the thinner oil that often sells in a larger tin can. I have purchased this before and let it go completely to waste as my Asian cooking skills are not the highest. I am wondering if there is an easy, common dish (other than braised greens and tofu) that I can incorporate into my menu once or twice a week -- and possibly even a dish that would go with just about any American/English style meal -- although I do cook, Thai and Indian and Italian. Thanks. Dee AS Tempura fry oil it is so delicious. Tempura batter: 1 cup cake flour 1 cup 1 egg and water(cold) mix lightly and voila it is ready to go heat the oil to 175 C degree and dip in any kind of ingredients as you wish lightly in the batter and fry any sauce will go with it, simply tasty salt(natural) is a good company. Be careful. Sesame oil has a low smoke point and will burn more easily than peanut or corn oil. Thanks, Dan. I see by a chart that 175C is 347ºF. A little sesame oil goes a long way when it comes to flavoring whatever you are making, but since you aren't using toasted sesame oil that would be less of a factor. However, to solve the smoke point problem as well as avoiding having everything taste only of sesame, I would mix the sesame oil with peanut or vegatable oil if I was frying or sauteeing. You could experiment with the amounts but 60/40 would be a good place to start. I use toasted sesame oil with rice wine vinegar and ginger as an alternative salad dressing. It's especially good with some tuna or chicken mixed in along with chopped green onions and slivered carrots. I like your ideas. Saved, filed; I'm going to try them all. My appreciation. Dee |
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Dee Randall wrote:
"Dan Logcher" wrote in message ... Be careful. Sesame oil has a low smoke point and will burn more easily than peanut or corn oil. -- Dan Thanks, Dan. I see by a chart that 175C is 347ºF. There may be exceptions, but as a general rule, sesame oil isn't used for cooking as much as it's used as a flavoring agent, added to food *after* it's already been cooked. -- Ken Blake Please reply to the newsgroup |
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"Ken Blake" wrote in message ... Dee Randall wrote: "Dan Logcher" wrote in message ... Be careful. Sesame oil has a low smoke point and will burn more easily than peanut or corn oil. -- Dan Thanks, Dan. I see by a chart that 175C is 347ºF. There may be exceptions, but as a general rule, sesame oil isn't used for cooking as much as it's used as a flavoring agent, added to food *after* it's already been cooked. -- Ken Blake Please reply to the newsgroup Ken, it is my understanding that the tiny toasted bottles of sesame oil is the one that isn't used for cooking, but as a flavoring agent; and it is the big cans of 100% sesame oil that are used for cooking in oil. I am using a can that is 56 oz. and I've bought and seen cans twice that size. You can see images of this on http://images.google.com/images?svnu...sesame&spell=1 The first can is the oil for cooking; look down further on the page where there is a bottle that says "Pure" which is usually toasted. The can of oil is what I'm speaking of for cooking. At least that is what I've done. Any further comments appreciated. Dee |
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Dee Randall wrote:
"Ken Blake" wrote in message ... Dee Randall wrote: "Dan Logcher" wrote in message ... Be careful. Sesame oil has a low smoke point and will burn more easily than peanut or corn oil. -- Dan Thanks, Dan. I see by a chart that 175C is 347ºF. There may be exceptions, but as a general rule, sesame oil isn't used for cooking as much as it's used as a flavoring agent, added to food *after* it's already been cooked. -- Ken Blake Please reply to the newsgroup Ken, it is my understanding that the tiny toasted bottles of sesame oil is the one that isn't used for cooking, but as a flavoring agent; and it is the big cans of 100% sesame oil that are used for cooking in oil. I am using a can that is 56 oz. and I've bought and seen cans twice that size. You can see images of this on http://images.google.com/images?svnu...sesame&spell=1 The first can is the oil for cooking; look down further on the page where there is a bottle that says "Pure" which is usually toasted. The can of oil is what I'm speaking of for cooking. At least that is what I've done. Any further comments appreciated. Don't take my view as the absolute last word on this, but as far as I know, it's the same oil, just packaged differently. The kadoya is the brand I usually buy. I buy it in 22oz bottles, but someone who uses more (like a restaurant) is more likely to buy the larger can. The reason that sesame oil is not usually used for cooking (toasted or not) is the low flash point that Dan talked about. -- Ken Blake Please reply to the newsgroup |
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Ken Blake wrote:
Dee Randall wrote: The first can is the oil for cooking; look down further on the page where there is a bottle that says "Pure" which is usually toasted. The can of oil is what I'm speaking of for cooking. At least that is what I've done. Any further comments appreciated. Don't take my view as the absolute last word on this, but as far as I know, it's the same oil, just packaged differently. The kadoya is the brand I usually buy. I buy it in 22oz bottles, but someone who uses more (like a restaurant) is more likely to buy the larger can. The reason that sesame oil is not usually used for cooking (toasted or not) is the low flash point that Dan talked about. An addendum: I'm apparently wrong. I googled sesame oil, and found this site, http://missvickie.com/howto/spices/oils.html, which talks about two kinds of Sesame oil, light or untoasted, and dark (toasted or Asian) sesame oil. And you are right that it's only the dark that it used as flavoring, and the light *is* used for cooking. However, note that the dark is the one called "Asian," and how suitable the light cooking variety is for Asian cooking, I don't know. Also note that I think the big can shown on http://images.google.com/images?svnu...sesame&spell=1 is still the same dark Kadoya oil that's also available in smaller bottles. -- Ken Blake Please reply to the newsgroup |
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"Ken Blake" wrote in message ... Dee Randall wrote: "Ken Blake" wrote in message ... Dee Randall wrote: "Dan Logcher" wrote in message ... Be careful. Sesame oil has a low smoke point and will burn more easily than peanut or corn oil. -- Dan Thanks, Dan. I see by a chart that 175C is 347ºF. There may be exceptions, but as a general rule, sesame oil isn't used for cooking as much as it's used as a flavoring agent, added to food *after* it's already been cooked. -- Ken Blake Please reply to the newsgroup Ken, it is my understanding that the tiny toasted bottles of sesame oil is the one that isn't used for cooking, but as a flavoring agent; and it is the big cans of 100% sesame oil that are used for cooking in oil. I am using a can that is 56 oz. and I've bought and seen cans twice that size. You can see images of this on http://images.google.com/images?svnu...sesame&spell=1 The first can is the oil for cooking; look down further on the page where there is a bottle that says "Pure" which is usually toasted. The can of oil is what I'm speaking of for cooking. At least that is what I've done. Any further comments appreciated. Don't take my view as the absolute last word on this, but as far as I know, it's the same oil, just packaged differently. The kadoya is the brand I usually buy. I buy it in 22oz bottles, but someone who uses more (like a restaurant) is more likely to buy the larger can. The reason that sesame oil is not usually used for cooking (toasted or not) is the low flash point that Dan talked about. -- Ken Blake Please reply to the newsgroup I find there is a good deal of difference in taste and consistency. I have been cooking a little over the years with the oil that is sold in the cans. I could never cook with the oil that is sold in the smaller highly concentrated bottle, it is very strong, and I believe it is 'toasted' sesame oil. Dee |
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Hello, Dee!
You wrote on Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:11:28 -0500: ?? The reason that sesame oil is not usually used for cooking ?? (toasted or not) is the low flash point that Dan talked ?? about. For me, sesame oil (toasted probably since it's brown) is a useful flavoring and a few drops will suffice. I don't use any type for actual cooking. I usually use olive oil from a Misto sprayer. It may not be Chinese or Japanese but it works! James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not |
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"Ken Blake" wrote:
Dee Randall wrote: "Ken Blake" wrote in message Dee Randall wrote: "Dan Logcher" wrote in message Be careful. Sesame oil has a low smoke point and will burn more easily than peanut or corn oil. Thanks, Dan. I see by a chart that 175C is 347ºF. There may be exceptions, but as a general rule, sesame oil isn't used for cooking as much as it's used as a flavoring agent, added to food *after* it's already been cooked. Ken, it is my understanding that the tiny toasted bottles of sesame oil is the one that isn't used for cooking, but as a flavoring agent; and it is the big cans of 100% sesame oil that are used for cooking in oil. I am using a can that is 56 oz. and I've bought and seen cans twice that size. You can see images of this on http://images.google.com/images?svnu...ell&resnum=0&c t=result&cd=1&q=kadoya%2Bsesame&spell=1 The first can is the oil for cooking; look down further on the page where there is a bottle that says "Pure" which is usually toasted. The can of oil is what I'm speaking of for cooking. At least that is what I've done. Any further comments appreciated. Don't take my view as the absolute last word on this, but as far as I know, it's the same oil, just packaged differently. The kadoya is the brand I usually buy. I buy it in 22oz bottles, but someone who uses more (like a restaurant) is more likely to buy the larger can. The reason that sesame oil is not usually used for cooking (toasted or not) is the low flash point that Dan talked about. Jun sometimes adds a little sesame oil to Thai stir-fry near the end of the cooking. -- Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ! ~Semper Fi~ |
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"James Silverton" not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not wrote in message . .. Hello, Dee! You wrote on Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:11:28 -0500: ?? The reason that sesame oil is not usually used for cooking ?? (toasted or not) is the low flash point that Dan talked ?? about. For me, sesame oil (toasted probably since it's brown) is a useful flavoring and a few drops will suffice. I don't use any type for actual cooking. I usually use olive oil from a Misto sprayer. It may not be Chinese or Japanese but it works! James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not My posting was a query as to how I could incorporate sesame 'cooking' oil might be more often used in cooking. Quote, I am interested in cooking a couple of times a week using sesame oil -- not the heavy, toasted thicker type, but the thinner oil that often sells in a larger tin can., Unquote. Thanks all who answered my query. Here is some information for those who don't know the difference between the two types of sesame oil. http://www.answers.com/topic/sesame-oil which says in part SEHS-uh-mee] Expressed from sesame seed, sesame oil comes in two basic types. One is light in color and flavor and has a deliciously nutty nuance. It's excellent for everything from salad dressings to sautéing. The darker, Asian sesame oil has a much stronger flavor and fragrance and is used as a flavor accent for some Asian dishes. Sesame oil is high in polyunsaturated fats ranking fourth behind safflower, soybean and corn oil. Its average smoke point is 420°F, making it excellent for frying. HTH, Dee |
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