On May 22, 8:13�am, "Gunner" wrote:

Booger, again a bunch of disjointed semi factual comments meant to appear
sage. *Some of the relevant ones actually support exactly what Dude said,
"bean and tortillas", simple basic elements of Mesoamerican life long before
the European.

The Spanish made Mexico what it is today. Mexico was defined by the
Spanish colonial period, not by the racist/nationalist/irredentist
fantasy of the mestizos.

If modern Mexicans enjoy a higher standard of living in the decades to
come, it will be because they emigrated to the USA, or because the
great grandsons of the hidalgos bring prosperity to Mexico.

Mexicans hate to hear the term "mestizo" because it carries baggage of
Spanish colonial oppression. My own mixed race ancestors were
oppressed by Whites and Roman Catholics and were called "mestees", but
none of my relatives will ever jump up and say, "Don't call us
'mestees'! Them's fightin' words!"

There was no such thing as a "tortilla" in Mexico, before the
conquistadors arrived there in the 16th century. The Spanish hidalgos
saw the natives patting their tlaxkahlis and cooking them on their
comals and they sneered, calling the native flatbread "tortilla", a
humble sort of cake.

And the social class structure, with indigenous Mexicans on the bottom
and the Spanish on top was born.

Nor was there such a thing as a "bean" in Mexico before the Spaniards
arrived. Simeon's Nahuatl dictionary (1885 [1984]:17) contains the
entry "ayacotli o ayecotli. "Frijoles muy grandes, como habas" (very
large beans, like broad-beans)

On the other hand, the French probably never ate haricots before
European contact with the Mexicans[French, possibly alteration
(influenced by French haricot, stew) of Nahuatl ayacotli.]

And would a French officer, in the service of Maxmillian, have ever
dreamed of inviting the local peasants to his sateen-covered oaken
table to share his haricot stew?

I think not. Class divisions existed then and they exist now and the
thrust of human social climbing is usually upwards, never downwards,
unless you are the "Diarrhea in a Boat Dude."

When the audience watches Carlos Mencia cavort and prance upon the
stage and perform degrading acts like the "Dirty Sanchez" skit, they
are not laughing with Carlos, they are laughing at him, a pathetic
tramontane, picking his nose and eating his boogers for the amusement
of the upper class.

Despite your "twisted tales" approach recognize this is not
the place for spamming for another culture's cooking.

How hypocritical of you, the very same "Gunner" who recently posted
recipes about Mediterranean cooking and wanted to expand the focus of
the group to discuss criollo, Caribbean, South America, and Cajun
style cooking.

But the group doesn't want to broaden its culinary horizons. The group
prefers to discuss eating tacos and drinking a lot of beer and having
diarrhea in a boat.

And, spam is defined as "unsolicited e-mail, often of a commercial
nature, sent indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals,
or newsgroups; junk e-mail."

Johnathan sent his interesting recipe to ONE group. I compared his
yogurt and onion dish to
variants made all around the Mediterranean. Is there something wrong
with that?

Be careful, I might be gathering evidence of your hypocrisy...

That you like sparking controversy *is apparent, sometimes you actually have
something of a point if one can sift through your BS but *it is your
continued habit to make disparaging and oblique remarks about Mexicans that
is not acceptable. *It is a pathetic weakness. Mature a bit Booger before
you post again.

I'm three or four hours older now, and Mexicans still hate to be
reminded of Mexico and their
humble status as peasants there.

Perhaps they should all "come out of the shadows" and become legal, so
they can petition their congressman to introduce a bill outlawing
"hate speech" like the "M-word" and the "P-word" and the "B-word" and
every other word that carries emotional baggage for M's and P's and
B's....

Of course, the next step in the evolution of insults would be for
rappers to start greeting their co-racialists with "Wazzup, N-word?"

And Carlos could do his booger-eating skit where he wears the pointy
white shoes and he can call himself "The B-Man" and everybody will
know that "M" and "P" and "B"and "N" have only *one* true meaning and
intent...

Yes, I can see that the only real function of language is to exploit
and harm others and I hereby resolve to never attempt communication
with any being capable of comprehending human speech.

Nah...