
08-04-2007, 01:34 AM
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corks for the long haul
"guy" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 6, 7:00 pm, wrote:
"snpm" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 6, 2:55 pm, wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message
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If it's any help, I had several bottles of 40 year old wine that I
recently
opened. My earlier efforts. The wine was superb. (3 of 4 lots,
anyway!)
They all had used corks in them when I bottled. (I couldn't afford
to
go
out and
buy corks!) I covered the corks with cotton patches held in place
with
elastics, and then dipped in sealing wax.
Jack, 40 years ago I was in better physical condition so was the
quality
of
the corks.
The idea of dipping the cotton with wax was and is still a very good
thing.
Today, at supper, I open a 2004 Merlot. The wine was excellent. I
made
this batch with a kit purchased at Cotsco.
When I pulled the cork out I noticed a slight trace of redish dampness
around the cork which gave me food for tought
I do not think I could keep this batch for more than 5 to 7 years.
wrote:
The oldest bottle of wine (made with Spanish concentrate) I have
kept
is
7
years.
At the time, I had used premium corks obtained at Wine Art store in
Canada.
The end result was good but not super excellent.
Now I am looking for screw top bottle or a good synthetic cork.
At this time, the quality of cork is not what it use to be. The
same
old
Oak trees have been harvested for too long and the quality has
deteriorated
Your question can not be answered correctly until a new synthetic
cork
has
been proven with time.
While waiting for an proven synthetic cork many top wineries are
using
screw
top bottles
Check: http://www.corksupplyusa.com/natural-corks-quality.htm#
The insidious problem with cork mould is that it is not practical
to
detect
it before bottling at the winery. Once the afflicted cork is rammed
into
the
bottle and becomes wet, the mould grows and taints the wine. It is
not
the
fault of the wine and you will find that if a bottle of wine is
corked,
then
usually the rest of the case of wine is fine. It is a random fault
affecting
something like one in 50 bottles. That's quite a high factor and is
of
obvious concern because the winery is blamed when really it is a
fault
of
the cork itself
Also check:http://www.thewineman.com/cork101.htm
http://www.corksupplyusa.com/triple_assurance.htm
Southcorp has developed a new called Aegis that is not as hard as
other
synthetic corks, and looks similar to a traditional cork. More
commercial
wines in the Southcorp range will be sealed with it, but
longer-term
trials
will be done before it's used for premium wines. Another product in
use
is
Supreme Corq, made from thermoplastic, which is used in Lindemans
Cawarra,
Hardys Hunter Ridge, Pepper Tree and Boston Bay wines.
"snpm" wrote in message
roups.com...
So I have a crushendo brewing. The corvino. Literature I found on
the
web had the balls to suggest it would keep improving for up to a
decade. I'm up for the challenge, but I am not sure my local
corks
are.
So, mentors, the question is, what cork would you put in a bottle
of
wine you planned to lay down for a decade, why, and where do you
get
them?
(I am a learner)
Sean- Hide quoted text -
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do costco always sell wine kits? You live in the states or Canada?
I live in eastern Canada. Yes Costco sells wine making kit. Usually,
the
kits are sold in twin pack each one making 5 gallons US
I have two batch on the go. The resulting wine from these kits is
surprising. The ratio quality price is very good.
I have my own well and the water is very good. This may account for
making
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"I live in eastern Canada. Yes Costco sells wine making kit.
Usually, the kits are sold in twin pack each one making 5 gallons US."
I live on thw south shore of Montreal. The kits are 5 gallons
imperial, 6 gallons US.
Guy
Thanks for the correction.
I have inadvertely mentionned the wrong figure Its should have read:
Its 23L 6 US gallons, You must have the same stock on the South shore of
Montreal as we have in Eastern Canada.
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