"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
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>> Priscilla
> To be fair, CDE trained carb counters don't count veggies unless they are
> starchy ones like potatoes, peas, legumes, corn, etc.

That's not entirely true. If they amount to 15 g of carb they are supposed
to count them.
>
> When DH was on orals and still making some insulin he was a trained
> carb-counter. He did quite well on that regime. It was easier to handle
> than that horrid exahange diet that could kill a DM with carbs.

Same thing. I still do the exchange program. No difference really. Still
adds up to the same.
>
> He still carb counts with the pump. His Endo and CDE don't want him to
> count carbs in non-starchy veggies. Tomatoes do not do him in.

But this guy said he didn't EAT any carbs. He wasn't talking about counting
them. And there are carbs in vegetables.