Guppy the Corpse Pumper wrote:
On Feb 1, 11:27 am, Rudy Canoza wrote:
Ron Hamilton, "vegan" douchebag, blabbered:

On Feb 1, 11:12 am, Rudy Canoza wrote:
Robert Cohen has no background in science *at all*, and
is a seller of a soy milk extractor. His anti-dairy
pose is just something he needs to do to try to sell
more of his goofy machines.
So Jeff Nelson's VEGAN pose
We're not talking about Nelson, ronnnnnnnnnie - we're
talking about the CHARLATAN Robert Cohen, who has *NO*
scientific background whatever.



LOL!!!


Yeh,.........you don't dare talk about Nelson

This isn't about Nelson, you ****wit. It's about the
failed NJ real estate developer and CHARLATAN and
FRAUDSTER named Robert Cohen and his lack of *any*
scientific background, and his unethical attacks on the
dairy industry merely to try to increase sales of his
soy milk extractor gizmo.

Soy increases IGF-1 levels in humans who consume soy.
The group that consumed 40mg of soy products had
*greater* increases in serum IGF-1 than those who
consumed 40mg of milk protein.

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/notmilk.html

Dear Mr. Cohen,

Today an email was forwarded to us in which you cited
an article by Mark Messina minimizing the link between
soy foods and thyroid dysfunction. Apparently you are
not aware of the vast literature on thyroid dysfunction
caused by soy foods, nor of Dr. Messina's position as a
consultant and promoter for the soy industry. It is
unfortunate that so much dis-information and
misunderstanding exists around such vital health
issues. Too often it seems that scientific information
is twisted and turned in order to fit a pre-set agenda.
[especially the sales agenda of Robert Cohen, soy
huckster - ed.]

DOUBLE STANDARD

Soy promoters often operate under a double standard,
condemning a substance in milk while praising the same
compound when it occurs in soy. One egregious example
is that of Insulin-like Growth Factor-1, or IGF-1. You
have been very vociferous in your condemnation of rBGH
milk because it contains high levels of IGF-1, a
compound that has been implicated as causing breast
cancer. However, you are silent when it comes to the
IGF-1 levels in soy. When they are found in soy,
promoters describe them as a benefit for bones. This is
similar to the promotion of fluoride by the dental
profession, while ridiculing its serious adverse health
effects.

According to findings reported by researchers Arjmandi
and Khalil, April 2001, soy increases serum IGF-1
levels. They took 64 healthy men and randomly assigned
them to two groups, one that consumed 40 g of
milk-based protein a day for three months and the other
that took in 40 g of soy-based protein on the same
schedule. Urine and blood samples showed that both
groups experienced an increase in a substance
associated with bone formation known as insulin-like
growth factor-1.1

The group consuming soy protein had significantly more
of this growth factor, according to Arjmandi. He and
Khalil presented their findings at the Experimental
Biology 2001 meeting in Orlando. "This is the first
study to show that soy may benefit skeletal health in
males," Arjmandi is quoted as saying.

It is unbelievable that an increase in IGF-1 levels
could ever be interpreted as something "beneficial," as
there are over 1900 studies on MEDLINE alone clearly
showing the implications of IGF-1 in hormonal cancers.
Such is the double standard we fine in health research
science.