Just returned from a week in Germany, sampling the Helles beer. I'm
not much of a weiss beer fan.

Munich
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I hadn't been to Munich for 15 years and it suprised me when beer
quality, especially in the tourist areas, wasn't always top notch.
Best: Helles in the LowenbrauKeller, Hofbrau in the EnglisherGarten.
Worst: Ice-cold Augustiner at Karlsplatz keller, Ayinger at restaurant
next to Hofbrau Haus.

Nuremberg
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Best: Tucher, various Paulaner outlets. Andechs pils on tap.
Worst: Kaiser pils, Lederer pils. All in tourist places. All
undrinkable.
Nuremberg was very disappointing re. beer. Several Irish pubs serving
Kilkenny, Fosters etc!!

Frankfurt
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Best: Paulaner crystal weiss, some of the Henninger pils was OK.
Binder lager was OK.
Worst: Kaiser pils!

Dusseldorf
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Best: My first experience of Alt beer (like a dark mild) was very
encouraging, but I couldn't drink it all night. One pub in the old
town was absolutely packed with locals stood outside knocking back the
Alt -- even middle-aged well-to-do business ladies were downing 'em!
Worst: loads of Irish pubs!

Bruce