"Oh, Guess" wrote in message
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:58:20 -0500, "fastfwd"
wrote:
OP said... I am looking for a
beer thats not so bitter as budweiser, maybe a little sweeter taste?
can
If you think Budweiser is bitter, you should probably give up beer
altogether. Budweiser is deliberately formulated to have as little
bitterness as any hopped beverage might have.
Why be such a beer snob?
'Cause it's fun! C'mon, try it!
Jeez, Don, so's shooting fish in a barrel, then, I guess.
If the guy wants to try something better why would
you discourage him so much?
Because sometimes, a person has to recognize a fundamental truth.
And that truth just might be that said person doesn't really like the
taste of beer.
How the hell would he (or you) know that if all he's tried are Bud,
Foster's, and Guinness? You're cutting him off too soon. (Yes, I realize he
may have just been trolling...but then why feed him?)
The more people drinking something besides the
macros the better in my opinion.
You're right in this regard, but if a person doesn't like the taste of
beer - robust malt, perhaps some hop bitterness (but not always!),
maybe an interesting fruity flavor from the yeast - why shove it down
that person's throat? There are people out there who simply don't
like the taste of honest, well-made beer.
But you didn't know this guy WAS one (because what he said he didn't like
was mass-made stuff!), and you wrote him off and jumped up and down on his
head with your golf spikes on! Hell, we don't even know if he DOESN'T like
hops, just that he thinks Bud is too bitter. He CAN'T really think that,
it's physically impossible...unless what he really doesn't like is the
carbonation level, and we can address that. I'm thinking cask-conditioned
Troegs Hopback Amber as a control. Anyway, the problem here is that you've
got a guy ASKING for help, a NEWBIE in our dying newsgroup, someone who
might blossom into a regular like Bill Becker...and you pilloried him. Oh,
HE'S gonna be back, you bet.
Dustin, I'm fairly new to all of this, but I would say try something like
Newcastle Brown.
Why?
Cuz it's not bitter? Maybe? Cuz he actually read the guy's post?
I asked the question of what to offer somebody new to good
beer not too long ago and that was the answer. Goto:
www.beeradvocate.com
and sign up there. Lots of helpful info and helpful people. The
question
you ask is a valid one in my opinion.
Of course it's valid. I asked the question myself once - long before
I knew of such a thing as Usenet and rfdb. It was the dark, primitive
era of the 1970's, after all.
So he's an idiot because he's asking it now? He's what, calendrically
challenged?
It's perfectly normal for you to take a little while to acquire the taste
for good beer.
Point. But first - one must learn to drink, enjoy, and savor good
beer. And one must be motivated to do so.
So...it's going to take you a while to acquire the taste for good beer, but
you've got to learn to enjoy and savor it first? BLAT, that's noise. And as
far as the motivation...he's HERE, isn't he?
The plus side is that there are thousands of them out there
to explore once you get hooked on the flavors. You may find yourself
wanting to travel a bit to find beers that aren't available in your area.
I only wish this was true. I only wish I didn't know so many people -
especially my fellow countrymen - who were stuck in their little
suburban Bud-Light-swilling groove. Well, actually, I know a *lot* of
people who aren't, and I salute them. So, fine. Dustin, get out
there and hang those cojones over the razorblade. Please, realize
that bitter flavors are to be savored, not abhorred. Learn to enjoy
the robust maltiness of a rich ale, the piercing hop flavors of an
IPA, the rich fruity flavors of a Bavarian-style hefeweizen. But
whatever you do - quit drinking Bud. Bud is a beer made with one
thought in mind: people don't really want beer with rich flavors.
The premise of Bud is to offer a beer with as bland a flavor profile
as possible. Eschew this. Learn to savor the very things that make
beer good. M'kay?
Hold on. Not everyone likes and savors every flavor component possible in
beer. I know significant numbers of people who don't like IPAs that roll
like kitties in catnip over weizenbock; similarly, there are a LOT of people
I would consider bona fide geeks who "just don't get Belgians." Are they
idjits? Nay.
And I'd have to say that Bud and its ilk are not about bland. They're about
alcohol, and that's what gets the whole industry in trouble.
I like you, Don, you know that. You know a hell of a lot about beer,
particularly about out-of-the-way places to find really great beer. But man,
you got a bad habit of dropping on newbies like a ton of blivets. It ain't
doing the cause a bit of good, and in the end, that doesn't do us -- or
you -- any favors. JMO.
--
Lew Bryson
www.LewBryson.com
Author of "New York Breweries" and "Pennsylvania Breweries," 2nd ed., both
available at www.amazon.com
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