I think R Gordon indicated that he saw them advertising his wine. Therefore
it is likley that if that is the case, and R Gordon is not full of shit,
that the retailer is a crook.

All this is opinion.

Also, he does not have to engage an attorney to sue. Just contact the State
Attorney General office in Albany. I promise if this is accurate it would
be fraud and the state will make them criminally liable. If he stiffed one
person he likely stiffed others. If that statement is true 3 separate acts
might get RICO statute. I bet the retailer would fullfill their obligations
quickly.

the end
"gerald" wrote in message
...
Not too many years ago, someone in Michigan sold a huge number of
futures to retailers, who in turn sold many to customers(retailers can
hold futures also, if they wish).

None of the wine was delivered. It is my understanding that making
good on these futures almost destroyed Calvert-Woodley in DC.

If all you are buying is the guarantee from the third party, I think
you have to sue the third party.

It is possible that Mr Silver does not have the funds to make good on
these futures, if he got stiffed.


On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:12:11 GMT, "Robert Gordon"
wrote:

I have been the victim of an old scam.
I purchased 2000 Bordeaux Futures from Barry Silver
of Silver Spirits in St. James, Long Island, NY.
He does not want to deliver them, and to add insult
to the whole thing, he advertised one of the wines I bought,
the 2000 La Mission on his website. I am suing of course, but
I just wanted insight as to how common this kind of thing is.

I would advise people to be very careful in buying wine futures.
I thought I knew this merchant, but I obviously made a big mistake!