In article , "H.J. van der Veen"
writes:

al the mayor wineries (like
Marques de Caceres) tend not to do that, so the backlabel should give you an
indication. It might well be, though, that they are sending declassified
wines tot the USA. And of course those wines will be good quality, but they
are considered less by the winery itself. In

Hillebrand,

I think we have a slight misunderstanding. I'm the one that posted "As to
usage, I don'tthink there's any formal rule, but if I name a Rioja from a big
house that
makes a full-line and don't say Reserva or Gran Reserva, you can pretty much
bet it's a Crianza. If I saw "Marques de Caceres Rioja" in an ad, I'd be
pretty sure it was the Crianza."

I'm not saying that the wine doesn't say Crianza on label. I referring to
spoken Winegeek.
Just as I assume if one says "97 Mondavi Cabernet" that they mean the Napa
bottling, not the Private Reserve or Oakville, I assume if someone says
Viticcio Chianti Classico they don't mean the CCR. So if I hear Marques de
Caceres Rioja with no qualifer, I'm assuming it's the Crianza until told
differently.
Obviously many folks here are better critical thinkers here than I, and would
not make such willy-nilly assumptions. :-)

Dale

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