Shhesh, I forgot about those posts - it's amazing what can be found just
lying around in cyberspace - hope my in-laws don't learn about google


John D
Having fun in the smoke, but looking forward to winter

"Cuchulain Libby" wrote in message
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butch burton wrote:
John-thanks a bunch-you obviously know a great deal about this
endeavor. Will contact you later-now for the important-where are your
Q events occuring-assume since you are N of 49th that means maple leaf
territory.

And to think sniff John's first post just a few short years ago wiping
a
tear was about getting a Klose shipped to Canada. That story is worth a
re-post; cost him almost as much to ship it as build it. Compared to John,
we're all slackers as far as the speed of transition from bbq-slut to
bbq-whore. Bugg, you need to call him, PING him for his phone number,
although he doesn't cook retail he can tell you shitloads about whoring.
Plus he's a great guy and funny as hell.
Found it but looking at some of John's old posts, this one is probably
boring....
(googled 'john d' and 'klose')

[Begin re-post:]

OK, I did it - I ordered the Klose

I talked to the folks at Klose, and they not only knew what they were
talking about, they made me feel that they knew what they where talking
about!!!!! (pretty impressive .... one of my business is sales oriented
....... I know the crap series and the crud series ... and these people
talked fact.... no fiction)

I went for the backyard chef with the log starter and the charcoal grate
in
the main chamber (their recommendation). cost was something like $1300. I
was interested in the gas element for the main smoke chamber, but the
talked
me out of it (that's not real Q'ing !!!!). I thought it would be
worthwhile
in the winters up here, but if it's too cold to Q, I really should just
use
the oven as opposed to using gas (my wife's comment - I really do Love
her)

The shipping costs are kind of funny though. To ship to Toronto, Canada is
around $650.00, but around $1,000.00 to ship to Hamilton, Ontario (45
min.
closer to the US border)

The only question that I have left is,...... should I go for the insulated
cooking chamber or not? It is an extra 1/4 inch plate around the cooking
chamber filled with 4" of insulation. Forgot to ask how much it will
cost,
but even if its another 3 - 400 it might be worth it ( it gets down to -20
to - 30 a fair bit in Jan. and Feb ..... but we need that to build our ice
rinks so that you yanks can't take that game from us like you did with
basketball, football, and baseball) (hey its a nationalistic thing ....
genetic kind of)

Thanks to all of you that told me off, gave advice, and just slightly
ridiculed me ....... I felt at home.

John D

Now that I have it, I got to learn how to use it - My 13 year old nephew
(you figure out the context)
John D wrote in message
news
OK,

I was going to build a double barrel smoker BBQ, but my wife (bless her
kind
soul) said that she did not want to look at a bunch of oil barrels in
the
back yard. She suggested buying an offset smoker from a reputable
manufacturer, having it delivered, and making sure that it would be the
only
one I would need for the rest of my life.

After I got up off of the floor, I went back to my links ...... I liked
the
Tejas (the size and the cost) and due to the responses that I have seen
in
this group, the Klose.

The $1100 odd dollars American, I can handle, my problem is the shipping
costs. Why pay $1100 for a unit, just to spend $1083 to have it
delivered.
Can't justify that (no matter how HARD I try)

To those canucks out there that have offset pits, how did you get them
over
the border, and were there any other surprise costs that I should know
about?

I live in Hamilton, Ontario. - Maybe getting it shipped to Buffalo then
picking it up there (cost to ship to Buffalo - $260)

Both units are around 1000#, Any advice would be welcomed

John D

Never to old to learn to cook, Always too old to learn to wash windows.