On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:23:30 GMT, Jonathan Ball wrote:

wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 19:31:40 GMT, Jonathan Ball wrote:


wrote:


On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 03:33:15 GMT, Jonathan Ball wrote:



wrote:


On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:12:03 -0700, Rat & Swan wrote:




Jonathan Ball wrote:

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The whole focus of my argument is that the fundamental flaw in
"veganism" as an ethical response to a perceived ethical problem is
manifold:

- no persuasive elaboration of a *real* ethical problem
requiring a response

As it becomes more and more obvious that most of the animals we
use for food, fiber, leather, and other products share many of
the qualities of humans who are granted rights -- or, as I
believe, whose rights we recognize -- the question becomes, not
why they should have rights, but why their rights are NOT respected.


Ball says:

The whole focus of my argument is that they [veg*ns]
follow their sappy, sentimental superstition to its natural
and logical conclusion."

No, ****WIT, you ****witted inept forger. I never
wrote that sentence.


It's what you meant.

I didn't write it, ****ing queer; you did.


[snip stuff that doesn't address ****WIT'S forgery]

Why did you post that crap, ****WIT?

To show what you wrote. Why did you snip it Gonad?

It doesn't change
the fact that I didn't write the sentence you posted
under my name and posting address, ****WIT.


You cobbled that sentence
together from two sentences I did write.


Since you "ARAs" work together,

I'm not an "ara", and you know it.


I don't know it

That's a lie, ****WIT. You do know it, and you do
believe it.

I don't know it or believe it.

Stop lying, ****WIT.

Gonad, I still believe you're the most dishonest of the dishonest
"ARAs" in the ngs. One reason being that you can't present even
one example of your opposition to it. And if you ever do, it's not
likely that it will have anything to do with animals or their rights.
It will just be a lame attempt to make you look like an opponent
without presenting anything that would work against "AR". But
as yet you haven't even been able to do that much. I have several
reasons to believe you're an "ARA", and no reasons to believe
you're an opponent.