On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:33:34 GMT, "Dutch" wrote:

dh@. wrote in message ...
On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:27:27 GMT, "Dutch" wrote:

People who appreciate mice or livestock, normally are appreciating live
ones, not wanting there to be more of them so that can "experience life",
that's the nonsense aspect with your position.

You need to explain why we should not consider the lives
of animals. Hey I know what...try doing it NOW:

Because there's no point to it.

There is if you're capable of having consideration for animals.

In fact it's probably the most pointless
idea I've ever heard. If animals exist we ought to consider the conditions
we provide them, that's it.


Sure, they're
tasty, but do they appreciate life more than mice?

I believe even very young chickens do. That is
from personal experience around both.

So just being destined to be eaten makes an animal appreciate life,

Of course that's not it.

or what is it?

Try again.

I think mice are more intelligent than either chickens or cows,
but not pigs.

At least that explains why you oppose some livestock in favor
of mice, even though I still don't go along with you on it. I don't
have reason to believe mice enjoy life more than some chickens
or cattle either...it depends on what their particular life is like.
Then there's the ever present fact that humans can deliberately
provide decent lives for chickens and cattle better than they
can for any wild animals. Also, what is the average lifespan
of wild mice in comparison to chickens and cattle? I feel certain
that the average life span of even broiler chickens is longer than
the average life span of wild mice, and cattle much more than
that. So far we have no reason to favor your mice over livestock,
and most likely we never will have.