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Old 27-03-2008, 08:18 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.food.vegan,misc.rural,alt.satanism
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Default Condemning meat (was: A question for vegans about meat)

who cares... stop crossposting this crap to alt.satanism...

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:31:22 -1100, dh@. wrote:

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, the Goober lied:

Goo****wit places *no* value on animals' "getting to
experience life".


We know that's a lie Goo. We also know and
have proof that YOU are guilty of what you so
dishonestly accused me of:

"The opportunity for potential livestock to "get to
experience life" deserves *NO* moral consideration
whatever" - Goo

"It is completely UNIMPORTANT, morally, that "billions
of animals" at any point "get to experience life."
ZERO importance to it." - Goo

"There is nothing to "appreciate" about the livestock
"getting to experience life" - Goo

"The meaningless fact-lette that farm animals "get to
experience life" deserves no consideration" - Goo

"the "getting to experience life" deserves NO moral
consideration, and is given none; the deliberate killing
of animals for use by humans DOES deserve moral
consideration, and gets it." - Goo

""giving them life" does NOT mitigate the wrongness of
their deaths" - Goo

"no matter how "decent" the conditions are, the deliberate killing
of the animals erases all of it." - Goo

It is morally wrong, in an absolute sense - unjust, in
other words - if humans kill animals they don't need
to kill, i.e. not in self defense.

"the moral harm caused by killing them is greater in magnitude
than ANY benefit they might derive from "decent lives" - Goo

"the nutritionally unnecessary choice deliberately to kill an animal
ALWAYS causes a moral harm greater in magnitude than . . . the
moral "benefit" realized by the animal in existing at all" - Goo

"logically one MUST conclude that not raising them in the first place
is the ethically superior choice." - Goo


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`We come now to the idea of the Gaeia Universe, where the whole of the Universe would be a single living entity of which all mankind is barely an organelle. But unlike the organisms of Earth, the elements of the Universe, energy and matter, are not connected by the bloody and battering interaction of consumption that we experience on Earth, but by the same forces of physics and mechanics which govern the aforementioned astronomical principles. The concept of pantheism proposes an additional connection, one of an overarching divine presence. In this divinity, mind and matter are one, and all things in the Universe are evenly connected'' --B.D. Abramson
 

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