Gary Beckwith wrote in message

single time. what animals are dying by the production of this organic
carrot in my hand? get real.

Don't worry, Gary. You are NOT going to get an answer out of Rick
Etter
and Jon Ball. They come here with no knowledge with the intent
only to stir up trouble. They are not scientists. They are not
professionals. They are nobody.

It is a well-established scientific fact, universally accepted
throughout
the scientifice community, that 10 to 16 times MORE animals are killed
to raise and feed animals to be fed to humans -- by the methods
Jon Ball has admitted to be true -- than if humans ate the plants
themselves,
because you have to churn up 10 to 16 times more animals in the ground
to grow the plants to feed the cows, chickens, and pigs to feed to
humans
than if you, the human, ate the plants directly.

Furthermore, anti-vegetarians like Etter and Jonball are EXTREMELY
anti-human.
They harrass and impede the important dedicated work of farmers,
vegetarian
food processors and salespeople, animal rights activists, and
environmentalists.
They support media censorship of the truth about the reality of
factory
farms and interfere with the work of groups who feel for
every ad for McDonald's hamburgers or KFC we should show scenes from
factory farms on tv and in the newspaper.