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Old 30-10-2003, 05:38 PM
Musashi
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Default what is it with the Japanese attitude to this kind of food?!?


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I chose the words to the subject line very carefully, as it is the

Japanese
who eat whales and dolphins not out of necessity (unlike Innuits),

therefore
one could say that the subject matter raised questions about

harvesting
depleting stock. It is beside the point to this alongside to what is

reared
for eating and that which is wild and, if hunted to today's quotas,

will
oneday be extinct.
It is also hypocritical for Mr/Mrs/Ms Musashi to label myself a

'mental
retard' when he/she feels I have labelled the Japanese in an unfair

manner -
he/she must have as much regard towards the mentally challenged as for

the
poor dolphins.
For the record, I have a lot of Japanese friends, both in and out of

Japan,
and they don't share pro whaling camp.


Sorry but I find your last statement lacking in credibility.
You say you chose your words carefully???


I hardly think you should be sorry for my incredible statement.


Ok I'm not. Your subject line is not "incredible".
It is misleading as it contains false information, and it is offensive to an
entire nationality.


"What is it with the Japanese" means "what is wrong with the Japanese."
Your subject line does NOT mean "what is the Japanese attitude".


These are very similar and is open to interpretation by the author/reader,
when the whole sentence is read. It is also the view of one who, in any
given civilised society, would have found the reports disturbing. It is
also why the photographers went to such trouble to highlight such acts.
'Japanese' in this context does not, and was not meant to be racist or
encapsulate the Japanese as a whole, but rather the perpetrators of this
act.

Nice try but very weak.
Your words "the Japanese attitude" clearly means the opinion of the Japanese
people
as a whole. It can not be construed to mean anything else.

If you considered these words carefully I suggest you go back to school

for
a remedial English class.


Why, is this a personal attack Ms Myashi?

Furthermore, if you indeed have alot of Japanese friends both in and out

of Japan then any
one of them would have told you that porpoises are not customarily
considered food in Japan,
that you will never find it in any fish market or restaurant.
Had you been talking about whale, that would have been a different

matter.

If you read that sentence again, you won't find any mention of fish

markets
or restaurants, all that was mentioned were that my Japanese friends are
against the hunting of whales, including dolphins and porpoises. No, not
about food or buying it at the market stall. Remedial classes anyone?

Oh,
my apologies, those classes are for the mentally retards only, and that
would certainly not include your royal highness Ms Myashi (or whatever)


Then why the subject line with the words "this kind of food"??
Did you get even one opinion from all of your alleged Japanese friends
concerning
this article which you intend to post? If you had, you would have known that
porpoises
and dolphins aren't considered food in Japan.
Then your subject line would not give the false impression that they were
"food".

The striped dolphins (not bottle nosed clever intelligent Flipper

dolphins
of TV fame) were being killed because of competetion for fish. The same

reason that
American Fishermam use to shoot seals because of competition for salmon.


Surely they have a right to exist and if survival means eating fish then

so
be it - afterall they're sea creatures. If they need to cull the
'competition', then there is surely a more humane way to make the kill

more
effective and not let the creatures bleed to death.

Most State Departments of Game currently consider slowly "bleeding to death"
by way of bowhunting
to be a more humane way (loss of conciousness) of killing than by gunshot
(massive trauma).
Therefore this is a debatable point.

Additionally much of Japans fish stocks are farmed
in ocean pens which are attacked by the porpoises. Perhaps a better

approach should be taken to solve the problem, but you posting a

misleading subject line does nothing
to accomplish that.

Better security or porpoise proofing the pens. I don't hear reports from
Scottish fisheries about otters taking their crop.


Yes, but US North Pacific, Alaskan and Canadain fish farms appear to engage
in shooting the seals
which attack their pens. This is no different than what happens in Japan.



 

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