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**Shawn Hirn** · 13-01-2008, 02:02 AM posted to alt.food.fast-food,rec.food.restaurants,ba.food

In article 2NCdnRThIovurxTanZ2dnUVZ_qelnZ2d@championbroadban d.com,
Golden California Girls wrote:

Shawn Hirn wrote:
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The variety of fast food burger places in the bay area is not amazing.
I've never seen a Sonic, a Whataburger, or a Fat Burger here. In-n-Out
took a half-century to move north. And Carl's Jr. owns Hardee's.
Further, we have no White Castles, and even Dairy Queens are few and
far between.

The part of the west that we live in is not blessed with fast food
chains in general. Fried chicken joints are in short supply; hating
KFC I would drive to East SJ to get Church's. Luckily now there are a
few PopeYes outposts. Sometimes nothing satisfies like deep fried
food: Where are the Long John Silvers, the Arthur Treachers? The lone
Dunkin' Donuts went out of business.

Arthur Treachers' parent company is the same as Kenny Rodgers. They're
both owned by Nathans Hotdogs who has a strange business model which
consists of closing branches. They closed down almost all the Kenny
Rodgers Roasters and Arthur Treachers stores and opened up just a few
food court places where you can buy from a very limited menu of each
one. What a shame.

As for SF, its choice of fast food places is limited, but nowhere near
to the Philadelphia area. We don't even have Carls Jr or In-n-Out. I
rarely eat fast food hamburgers, but when I do, I would much prefer
In-N-Out to BK, Wendy's, and McDonalds which are the only choices in my
area for that sort of food.

Are you saying there aren't any independent (not chain) fast food (burger)
places out there at all?!! Man that would be a desert.

There are tons of diners in my area where one can get an excellent
hamburger and fries, but none are fast food places. The only independent
fast food burger joint I can think of in my area is a little shoebox of
a store a couple of miles away, which I haven't tried yet, but should.