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Old 08-01-2008, 04:46 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Shen[_2_]
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Default caffiene a carcinogen? (was New lurker)

On Jan 7, 10:39*pm, Ozzy please.answer@NG wrote:
Lewis Perin wrote innews
...

Did that doctor imply that caffeine was carcinogenic? *That would be
new to me.


...

That was unwelcome news to me, too, when a member of my cancer support
group said it too. *However, googling provided

http://www.benbest.com/health/caffeine.html

"Nonetheless, more recent evidence does show a capacity
*for caffeine to worsen the mutagenicity of ionizing
*radiation and other carcinogenic agents through interference
*with cell cycle control [MUTATION RESEARCH 532:85-102 (2003)]"

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cgi/reprint/34/10/2720.pdf,
a paper which did exhaustive tests on golden hamsters,seemed also to
indicate that caffiene made more potent more standard carcinogens.

http://carcin.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/13/8/1379, 1992,
"Effects of caffeine, nicotine, ethanol and sodium selenite on
*pancreatic carcinogenesis in hamsters...",

A Japanese study that showed a stastically significant increase in
cancer in hamsters that were injected with this toxic mix. *Caffiene a
cancer "enabler" for the other carciogens...

http://www.inchem.org/documents/iarc/vol51/04-caffeine.html, 1991,
that states there there is inadequate evidence for the carcinogenicity
of caffiene (implicitly *by itself*) in both humans and experimental
animals.

* * * * -------------------

There are, as Winston Churchill said, three types of lies: lies, damned
lies, and statistics; and all of these studies are statistically based. *
Yet I'm not going to alter my tea habits based on the above, and not
just because of tea's anti-cancer phenols, either. *Life is just too
short to worry about everything.

Ozzy


Hold on a minute, guys.
Caffeine in moderation has been shown to inhibit cancer particularly
in the colon and there are now-being-conducted studies questioning the
duration and efficacy of ionizing radiation in some cases.
The antioxidant qualities in green tea (where been over this so many
times (see archives, this group) are unquestionable, at this point and
justified in many, many studies.
Stomach cancer is high in many Asian countries. Japan has a very, very
high rate. In my opinion due to a sky high consumption of sodium (and
possibly, high consumptions of raw fish and the heavy metals therein).
I would think nicotine, ethanol and all that salt would dis-ease
anything in Japan with or without tea.
To be honest, we don't really know about cancer in China because so
much of the medical data is unsubstantiated.
I would assume levels of gastrointestinal disease is climbing, in
general, due to high levels of pesticides, herbicides and additives in
foods and, of course, high levels of saturated fats and sodium.
Tea in sensible amounts is hardly a culprit.
Shen
 

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