frederick ploegman wrote:


"Dick Heckman" wrote
in message

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Joe Sallustio wrote:
On Dec 27, 9:55 pm, jim
wrote:
On Dec 27, 10:45 pm,
wrote:





Exactly, People have learned how to do
searches. I assume that is the
reason also. It's very rare a "new"
question is posted and just as rare that a
"new" answer will be given. Bob
On Dec 27, 5:41 pm,
wrote:
On Dec 20, 4:46 am, Joe Sallustio
wrote:
On Dec 19, 6:25 pm, Dick Heckman
wrote:
It seems that there is much less activity
here lately. Are folks moving
elsewhere?
dick
This is the original winemaking newsgroup,
it's been around for close
to 15 years. To be honest, it's not only
spawned a lot of other groups but most
questions have been asked and answered
many times. The groups was much more
active years ago, but that is where a lot
of
questions got answered. I might be
willing to bet there are close to a
thousand posts on cleaning/ removing
labels from bottles for
example. There really aren't that many
ways to do that and I can guarantee all of
them have already been explored here. I'm
not saying it's outlived it's usefulness,
just that there are
other groups out there now answering all
these questions, again. So
'dilution' is occurring...
Joe
I agree with Joe.
You can search almost any wine making
question within this group and you will
find pages of relative info. I search first
and if I don't find the info/help I need,
then I will post a question. Why post if
the info you need has been discussed
multiple times. I think some of the folks
that have been around this site for awhile
probably get tired of the same old
questions all the time. That said, this is
a great group and a wealth of information
and if you don't like to search and would
rather post questions, I bet you will still
get some discussion. Happy Holidays! Jesse
I kind of agree and kind of don't.

Many people use the news-reader portion of
outlook express. Unless their newsgroup
provider has unlimited retention and was
there before the start of this wine-making
group they wouldn't be able to find the
messages in their news-client. They might
not realise (as I didn't till the middle of
this year) that they could search the entire
(I
think) archive on Google. Also, different
practices and materials and equipment arises
from time to time, so it is on occasion worth
revisiting.

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Oh yeah, you can get the original posts from
when they started the group in Usenet back in
1993 on Google's archives. I probably have at
least 50 books on wine and winemaking but
probably learned more here
on this group. You can never beat first hand
experience. Google is amazing, you can read
100 year old winemaking books now if you want
to...

Joe


I've just noticed that in the last year the
post volume seemed to drop
pretty drastically. I've been lurking most of
the time for quite a few
years and copying posts that I found valuable.
I'm not all that computer
literate and never thought to search google. I
just like to see what folks are thinking about
wine and winemaking from time to time. I've
made fruit wines when the fruit was available
and I felt like it for about 30
yrs. I've never worried about recipes etc
other than making sure I had a reasonable SG at
start and a decent wine yeast. I've never had a
real failure.

I've planted a few vines now and in a couple of
years maybe I'll have some
grape wines. The frost in the Southeast last
spring knocked my vines in a cocked hat and I'm
almost starting over.

Thanks,

Dick

It's the newbies that keep this group going.
All too often lately,
they are being told to "go get googled". Some
interpret this as the equivalent of "go get
F***** ", and they take their questions
to friendlier places. I, for one, would like to
see the use of
google as an answer be outlawed in this group !!
(personal opinion of one grouchy old fart)

I AGREE 100%

One of the nice things about this news group is
that there are those of us out here will answer
questions - even though it has been asked many
times before. I hope we NEVER become like some
of the other newsgroups with answers like "Read
the FAQs" or "Google it". Sometimes the answer
to an old question can be such that it leads to
new understandings or brings up issues that a
plain "Search Google" does not reveal. For those
who find it irritating to see repeated questions
the answer is simple - just don't read them or
reply.